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June 16, 2006, 09:08 AM
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Slap on Chappel's face
Indian current coach, came with moto to expand India's current player base. So that, in the long run India would be served better. A good strategy indeed. However, in that process, he has excluded proven batsmen (Ganguly - still getting paid by BCCI) and bowlers (Zaheer Khan, Balaji, Nehra) and inserted new blood. Thus we are seeing inexperienced players can't win against a side who belongs to the bottom of the table. WI got thrashed by SA 5-0, Pak 3-0 in the previous two home series. Away series against NZ wasn't that pretty either. So being among the elite it was expected that India would dominate both ODI and test series. They have not even come close.
Zaheer khan is one of the discarded Indian player who was the only one performing beside Pathan consistantly. Follow the link below and see how he is answering to Chappel's move on discarding him.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/shared/.../scorecard.stm
What if he was in the current squad at WI? 9 wickets in a innings (overseas) is no joke.
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June 16, 2006, 09:36 AM
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He could've got the other wicket also but the keeper dropped a hard chance.... I think Patel is a good find for India.... he is quick and uses the swing well but VR Singh or Sreesanth are disappointing so far...
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June 16, 2006, 06:16 PM
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VRV Singh hasn't done anything so far. Zaheer and Agarkar could not have done any worse than VRV and Sreeshanth
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June 16, 2006, 06:35 PM
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Leaving out Agarkar for the test series after his stand-out performance in the ODIs is a blinder. But well, I am happy for that
The strategy is quite simple. If you want to discard some players, discard them while playing against the weak ones. Unfortunately for BCCI, it back-fired this time, especially with their hard luck. The ODI series could very easily be 4-1 in favor of India and the test series be 2-0 already. Poor 'em!
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June 16, 2006, 07:05 PM
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June 16, 2006, 07:08 PM
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i think India did not deserve to win. even mother nature did not want them to win. and its a slap on kiron more also
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June 16, 2006, 09:09 PM
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Thank you Chappel for proving that there IS a god. Until BCCI gets their act together, I can't support the Indian cricket team, even if they have some of my fav players (Ganguly is not one of them).
With the world cup a year away, it was really stupid (for lack of a better word) of Chappel to break the team dynamics. Some of the younger players will have a hard time getting over their recent failures.
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June 17, 2006, 02:00 AM
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Chappel is getting old. So he is tring to become young staying with some new young players. I suggest Chappel to join the u-19/17 team.
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June 18, 2006, 12:15 AM
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WI is no.8 or 9.
India lost 4-1 to them. That tells all.
Prior to this India got lucky on occations and got some really weak and injured sides at home.
One has got to play the best possible side. It is strange that some deserved players are playing county while India is losing matches to weakest of weaks: West indies.
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June 18, 2006, 01:58 PM
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india is only good in india, but outside..............? maybe a................
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June 18, 2006, 08:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamini
WI is no.8 or 9.
It is strange that some deserved players are playing county while India is losing matches to weakest of weaks: West indies.
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Outside of Subcontinent, India is the Worst one---Probably the Champion from the
bottom. This is 100% true about Indian's Fan also---they are worst one too among all other fans in the world.
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June 18, 2006, 10:08 PM
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see what happens ...
one bad tour and the heroes become villains and scapegoat is searched .
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June 18, 2006, 11:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CricFanBD
Outside of Subcontinent, India is the Worst one---Probably the Champion from the
bottom. This is 100% true about Indian's Fan also---they are worst one too among all other fans in the world.
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This way you are making a laughing stock of yourself.
No comments necessary.
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June 18, 2006, 11:32 PM
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Kamini, ei buri meyetake avarter theke rehai deowa jay na? bissiri lage...
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June 18, 2006, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamini
This way you are making a laughing stock of yourself.
No comments necessary.
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Really? Any way Sometimes Laughing is necessary. But your comments about WI are really harsh and not acceptable in public forum.
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June 19, 2006, 02:08 AM
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VRV Singh did not deserve to be in the Indian team. It is unfortunate that Agarkar, despite his improved performance in recent times was dropped because of his past record.
Zaheer Khan claimed 9 wickets in a county match under favourable bowling conditions, but that does not necessarily make him better than the other Indian bowlers. India already has Pathan, a better LFM than Zaheer, and Pathan himself is not very successful in West Indies.
Despite poor bowling, India came close to victory in both the test matches played so far.For all their weakness, India is still a stronger team than West Indies, at least in tests and on West Indian pitches too.
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June 19, 2006, 05:01 AM
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Zaheer took the nine wickets on the second day. On the third day, his bowling spell in the remaining part of the first innings was 5.3 - 1 - 73 - 0 while the last wicket stand made 97. In the second innings he had 27-1-122-2. This is more like the Zaheer we know
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June 20, 2006, 10:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CricFanBD
Outside of Subcontinent, India is the Worst one---Probably the Champion from the
bottom. This is 100% true about Indian's Fan also---they are worst one too among all other fans in the world.
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Need I say more
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June 20, 2006, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bharat
Need I say more
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yes please do. We deserve further explanation from you.
For example why two s and not one or more than two? And what are those two s for?
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June 20, 2006, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fazal
yes please do. We deserve further explanation from you.
For example why two s and not one or more than two? And what are those two s for?
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One each for CricFanBD comment ,
I tried to get a bigger smiley especially for the second comment ..but couldn't find one ..
as for the rason ..his comments by themselves are self explanatory ..I find it childish and hence the smiley's ...Could go into it furthur if interested .
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June 20, 2006, 11:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bharat
One each for CricFanBD comment ,
I tried to get a bigger smiley especially for the second comment ..but couldn't find one ..
as for the rason ..his comments by themselves are self explanatory ..I find it childish and hence the smiley's ...Could go into it furthur if interested .
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My comment is actually on the Basis of Kamini's Comment (#9). So plz before judging my comment, read others too.....but anyway you have the right to smile, I don't mind. Smile as much as you can.
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June 22, 2006, 08:16 AM
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Is there a logic flaw? We talk about how important it is for players to have experience in the domestic cricket. Yet we see coaches pushing young players into the lime light (who don't have the experience) thinking they will become the next Tendu, Viv Richards, McGrath, Marshall. So does it seem like talent has over taken experience in cricket? A knowledgable cricketer having experienced success in the highest level how can Chappel make these moves is beyond me. If he was the coach of Bangladesh I would say ok no players have the experience so he is making the right move. But we are talking about India. Don't they have lillie's camp and other camps there? So what's the rush?
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