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View Poll Results: Should Mushfiqur be stripped of captaincy?
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March 31, 2013, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mufi_02
Coz what Rabz bhai already said. It's only his second season and playing extremely well, more importantly looks like he is enjoying his game. He also doesn't have domestic captaincy experience. He might be considered future captain but that's way down the road.
For now we shouldn't burden him with captaincy role. We don't want to put more pressure and let him play his natural game.
shakib, tamim, mushy, nasir, riyad*,
are the core of the team now. Bottom line is, no one except Mushy is capable of captaincy at the moment or the foreseeable future.
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Oh no I don't want him to be the captain anytime soon as well... He is just too young to be a captain now..
I was confused because of the facepalm thought may be he has done something terrible today...
Yeah I think given the choices Mushy is still our best option... So no point in crying for stripping his captaincy !!
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March 31, 2013, 02:04 PM
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Mushy tried his best to end SRK's career..
Jokes apart, he is still the most successful BD captain of all time. How can we forget that he is the only captain in our history to beat SL in SL, had a double century, lead us to series win against WI? His field placement and rotation of bowlers may be questionable but we have to consider that he had very little options. He atleast gave it a shot with our B team
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March 31, 2013, 05:44 PM
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Stop basing Mushy.
Who do you think is capable of taking over the helm? He has done so much more than any of our captains in the history.
Let him grow on this position. How often do you see other country change their captain.
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March 31, 2013, 06:28 PM
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Mushy should be smacked senseless till he learns. And why do that, because he is the best one we got (as captain) and he MUST learn.
he cannot just say 'I worked with what I was given' (bowling Shahadat in death overs)... he needs to be smarter as a captain.
In all honesty, Razzak/Gazi probably would have got similar treatments bowling the death overs, but I refuse to believe it would have been as effortless for the batsman as playing SRK...
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March 31, 2013, 08:01 PM
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Hahaha... How come this thread comes up with his slightest mistake...
Now even PM Sheikh Hasina; The Agni Konya Also Can't remove him from captaincy
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March 31, 2013, 08:14 PM
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I think he just doesn't know how to handle the pace bowlers well. He should actually be setting a field and telling the bowlers where to bowl and this has to come from the coach as well. Pace bowlers should practice again and again the slower ball and the yorkers. Once they have some variation and control, and ball according to the field the captain's job becomes so much easier. He is good with the spinners though.
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March 31, 2013, 08:59 PM
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Musy shoudnt pick shahadat.... He knows what is shahadat means????? Also whole world knows ..
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March 31, 2013, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BANFAN
Hahaha... How come this thread comes up with his slightest mistake...
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This thread comes up when he repeats dumb mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes, but the smart ones learn from theirs.
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March 31, 2013, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by roman
Mushy tried his best to end SRK's career..
Jokes apart, he is still the most successful BD captain of all time. How can we forget that he is the only captain in our history to beat SL in SL, had a double century, lead us to series win against WI? His field placement and rotation of bowlers may be questionable but we have to consider that he had very little options. He atleast gave it a shot with our B team
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He is successful perhaps because he has the best team. In terms of ingenuity, Pilot was far superior. Even Ash used his gray matter, not just follow some preset algorithms.
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March 31, 2013, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Shakib is the real captain of this team, but until he's ready, we probably have to continue with Mushfiqur. One thing is for sure, he needs a good whipping, inside out, before the Zimbabwe series. Unfortunately, SJ is not the man to do that, neither is Papon. We need Loitta, we need Pybus. These norom tultule hulo birals are being treated too softly in the dressing room, which is why they pee their pants at the slightest whiff of pressure.
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Is this why they want to go back so quickly?
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March 31, 2013, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by shuziburo
None of our pacers is good at death. Mash used to be good, long ago. Shafiul bowled some good death-over spells. But, our spinners generally bowl better than the pacers in this situation. It is quite possible that a spinner also might have been spanked. But, he would not have given up 17 + 29. "buddhiman dekhe shekhe aar sabdhani theke shekhe."
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"buddhiman dekhe shekhe aar sabdhani theke shekhe."... khub valo bolesen bhai... kintu SRK kivabe shekhe?.... oto thkeo shikhse na...
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March 31, 2013, 09:41 PM
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Perhaps SRK will bowl a maiden when he bowls his next death over. If he bowls to a maiden, that is.
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March 31, 2013, 11:59 PM
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"buddhiman dekhe shekhe aar sabdhani theke shekhe."... khub valo bolesen bhai... kintu SRK kivabe shekhe?.... oto thkeo shikhse na...
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Or bodho hoi learning disability ase.
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April 1, 2013, 12:46 AM
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Mushfiqur Will not be stripped of captaincy until Bangladesh loses a series really really badly(Like against Zimbabwe or back to back series with no wins).
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April 1, 2013, 01:01 AM
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No. No one better than him atm. He has become a much better player but captaining. The best thing to do is to get a better VC instead. Maybe nasir or even bring back shak..mullah is useless..maybe nasir will have the brain to tell him to bring himself on in the middle stages and not to end innings with pacers.
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April 1, 2013, 01:08 AM
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For me, Mushy did two mistakes. One, he opted for 2 pacers on this pitch and he asked SRK to bowl penultimate over. SRK conceded 20, 24 runs in the last 2 overs. Instead of SRK, Mushy should have gone with either Mominul or Nasir, that would have saved at least 10-12 runs.
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April 1, 2013, 02:17 AM
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No. No one better than him atm. He has become a much better player but captaining. The best thing to do is to get a better VC instead. Maybe nasir or even bring back shak..mullah is useless..maybe nasir will have the brain to tell him to bring himself on in the middle stages and not to end innings with pacers.
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Yes there is. Shakib.
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April 1, 2013, 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
For me, Mushy did two mistakes. One, he opted for 2 pacers on this pitch and he asked SRK to bowl penultimate over. SRK conceded 20, 24 runs in the last 2 overs. Instead of SRK, Mushy should have gone with either Mominul or Nasir, that would have saved at least 10-12 runs.
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But according to Mushy probably, If main bowler who can't stop leaking runs then how can part timers will be able to do so.
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April 1, 2013, 02:42 AM
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Yes there is. Shakib.
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Why not make him VC instead. It would destroy mushys morales.
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April 1, 2013, 02:50 AM
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But according to Mushy probably, If main bowler who can't stop leaking runs then how can part timers will be able to do so.
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Haha....then no one would ever try Part timer bowlers to get a break through. Its not that no one ever tried with Nasir, Ashraful, Mominul in the past. Even Mushy used them too in the past and got success.
If Mushy really did say so, i really doubt his strategies then.
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April 1, 2013, 02:58 AM
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But according to Mushy probably, If main bowler who can't stop leaking runs then how can part timers will be able to do so.
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Ha! Ha!! Main bowler Shahadat!!!
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April 1, 2013, 03:16 AM
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I have a genuine feeling Mushy intentionally gave Shahadat the ball to bowl.
It was a master plan, to show selectors and fans what he is "incapable" of.
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April 1, 2013, 03:22 AM
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Ha! Ha!! Main bowler Shahadat!!!
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hahahaha. bhaijan type korche, ota hobe "Pain" bowler
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April 1, 2013, 03:23 AM
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I hate his on field captaincy (passive and defensive field setting, bowler management, team selection etc) always punctuated by prolonged brain freezes at regular intervals, but love the way he keeps the team together. That's important when it comes to motivating and inspiring players to give their 100%. Mushfiq is one brave son of a gun and will grow into an excellent leader who can build on his amicability and then inspire and motivate his crew, but I doubt he'll be the proactive, thinking captain we need on the field. Shakib is better in comparison when it comes to adjusting to game situations on the field but not by a whole heck of a lot to be honest. He has well documented man management issues that can demoralize some key players and harm our cause.
Having said all that, I don't see an alternative to Mushfiq. Riyad or Mashrafe? ****ah please! Mashrafe's captaincy makes HaBa's look Waughesque, I kid you not.
Captaincy is a complex and highly nuanced art and needs to be taught and mentored to those with the right character, erudition and drive. Sadly, we have yet see someone who fits the bill at this moment. I say give Mushfiq the dressing room while someone like Shakib takes the lead in strategy and tactics. They're good enough friends for this to happen.
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April 3, 2013, 11:07 AM
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I have a genuine feeling Mushy intentionally gave Shahadat the ball to bowl.
It was a master plan, to show selectors and fans what he is "incapable" of.
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If he truly did this, he deserves a Nobel!
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