Keep Ash as captain

[scoilaheez]

It seems there have been a ton of new threads asking for Ash to be demoted. Ideally, I believe countries should stick with one captain over a prolonged period of time, because captains should be given time to adjust to captaincy. Even the best captains such as Waugh, Fleming... needed time.

Also, a captain should be consistently in the team in both forms of the game. Btw, I wholeheartedly believe Ash should be kept in the side and not dropped as he is easily our best batsmen. Think 100 off 100 balls against Aus, or 94 off 52 balls against Eng. We should back Ash to make the big scores soon.

Consider the alternatives:

Mash: He gets injured too frequently and as a fast bowler would be even more burdened by captaincy

Sakib: At 20, he will struggle even more as captain and has not performed consistently as a batsmen, he is only important because of his more than handy bowling.

Aftab: Hasn't held down his test spot. His continued brain explosions doesnt help him set the example

Razzak: Right age but not consistent test player, and bowler's generally struggle with captaincy as it is difficult to think captaincy and bowling at the same time.

Bashar: Not even worth considering, hasnt batted well in ages

S Nafees: Struggled to maintain his spot. I think he has the composure and temperament but what good is that when you are not in the team.

Overall, we have no other options but to stick with Ash and back him to score some big runs soon enough and his captaincy will improve over time. His post match comments are always going to look bad because we have been heavily losing lately and no matter what he says, he is criticized.

[rubel_18]

I agree with u on dat

[djnaved]

Originally Posted by scoilaheez
It seems there have been a ton of new threads asking for Ash to be demoted. Ideally, I believe countries should stick with one captain over a prolonged period of time, because captains should be given time to adjust to captaincy. Even the best captains such as Waugh, Fleming... needed time.

Also, a captain should be consistently in the team in both forms of the game. Btw, I wholeheartedly believe Ash should be kept in the side and not dropped as he is easily our best batsmen. Think 100 off 100 balls against Aus, or 94 off 52 balls against Eng. We should back Ash to make the big scores soon.

Consider the alternatives:

Mash: He gets injured too frequently and as a fast bowler would be even more burdened by captaincy

Sakib: At 20, he will struggle even more as captain and has not performed consistently as a batsmen, he is only important because of his more than handy bowling.

Aftab: Hasn't held down his test spot. His continued brain explosions doesnt help him set the example

Razzak: Right age but not consistent test player, and bowler's generally struggle with captaincy as it is difficult to think captaincy and bowling at the same time.

Bashar: Not even worth considering, hasnt batted well in ages

S Nafees: Struggled to maintain his spot. I think he has the composure and temperament but what good is that when you are not in the team.

Overall, we have no other options but to stick with Ash and back him to score some big runs soon enough and his captaincy will improve over time. His post match comments are always going to look bad because we have been heavily losing lately and no matter what he says, he is criticized.

why don't talk about ash:

1) lack of responsibility
2) not intellegent at all
3) not careful about his own game
4) " if the captain can't direct the ship, the ship will sink easily"
5) not understanding about the gameplan
6) thinking of wining against big teams, where big teams like SA , pakistan, NZ, Aussie don't even think about that. They just show their performance. Performance makes a team to win.



aftab is improving and showing patience in test cricket. What about ash?

Razzak's and Farhad's batting are far better than our Ash..

SN is not in form, but play better cricket than our ash..

[Dhakablues]

I agree keep Ash as the captain ( of the discarded, talented flawed, irresponsible cricketers club)

[tonoy]

yes, lets wait for another 100 ODI. Im sure he will be bound to win a couple of matches by then. We can all wait for that amount of period. Shame on all of you to question the ability of Ash. I mean after all, he does play like the way we want him to play. Oh look, Ralph Nader, actually stands a chance to win the state of Florida.

[Fazal]

What the heck… ok let him be the captain as long as Ash’s fans want. I want to see how low Ash can go and still keep his ever loyal fans happy….upto the gutter? Into the tatti khana?

No doubt he will take the team with him. TEAM ? who cares? Team for Ash to rule….

So go guys and gals…. Make him the life long Captain. I am all for it.


Looks like the real TAMASHA is about to start. Fasten your seat belt…

[tonoy]

Originally Posted by Fazal
What the heck… ok let him be the captain as long as Ash’s fans want. I want to see how low Ash can go and still keep his ever loyal fans happy….upto the gutter? Into the tatti khana?

No doubt he will take the team with him. TEAM ? who cares? Team for Ash to rule….

So go guys and gals…. Make him the life long Captain. I am all for it.


Looks like the real TAMASHA is about to start. Fasten your seat belt…

Who needs team play when we have Ash. Just wait until he scores another half century against Ireland. We will keep him captain for the rest of his career.

[Dhruvo]

well i dont like ashraful's captaincy,he is irresponsible and not a team player (which i believe captains should have)

[kaisermatin]

ash should be sacked in a bos-ta and then exported to nepal. he is not a captain material. SN has it. but will he rise to the occasion?

[djnaved]

টেস্ট সিরিজ শুরুর আগে ফতুল্লার প্র্যাকটিস ম্যাচের কথা ভাবুন। বাংলাদেশ এমন ব্যাটিং করেছিল যে সিরিজ কাভার করতে আসা দক্ষিণ আফ্রিকান সাংবাদিকরা উদ্বিগ্ন হয়ে বিশাল বিশাল লেখা পাঠাচ্ছিলেন। বোলারদের এই কন্ডিশনে বলা করা আরও শিখতে হবে। আরও মাথা খাটাতে হবে। ওয়ানডে সিরিজ শুরুর আগে চট্টগ্রামে প্রস্তুতি ওয়ানডে ম্যাচটাতে বাংলাদেশ ২৪৩ রানই শুধু করেনি, টাই করে বসেছিল। অথচ তারপর সিরিজে এই হাল! সমস্যাটা কোথায়? অধিনায়ক আশরাফুল সমস্যাটা দেখেছিলেন, টিভিতে খেলা স¤প্রচারে। সেজন্য নাকি টেনশন বেড়ে যায়!

আশরাফুলদের জন্য একটা খবর। বাংলাদেশের টিভি স্বত্ব কেনা স্যাটেলাইট চ্যানেল নিও স্পোর্টস শুক্রবার বাংলাদেশের খেলাটা স¤প্রচারই করেনি। বাংলাদেশের সমস্যার কথা ভেবে অবশ্য নয়। বাংলাদেশের ক্রিকেটকে সমস্যা হিসাবে ভেবে!

[BD Tigers]

first khaled Mashud, then Khaled Mahmud, and then Habibul Bashar, and now Mohammed Ashraful...we all did exactly what we r doing now with the people above. its a never ending story for BC members. everybody wants to get the result today. nobody has patience and does hard work including our players. what a shame

[zainab]

Originally Posted by BD Tigers
first khaled Mashud, then Khaled Mahmud, and then Habibul Bashar, and now Mohammed Ashraful...we all did exactly what we r doing now with the people above. its a never ending story for BC members. everybody wants to get the result today. nobody has patience and does hard work including our players. what a shame

I agree with you emphatically. During the world cup, Habibul did the worst as a captain, it is his team who wanted to win, he was like a zombie, showed no life in the field. At least Ash runs around and is always alert, and is not afraid to try something new, even though it may not be the right thing to do.

Please try to stop destroying him and his career, and also to twist each and every word he says to suit our thinking.
The media makes a mountain out of a molehill anyhow. If he is removed as captain, do you believe that another captain will do better? It will start destroying the morale of the team, because each member will be thinking- well, it might be me next! because if it could be done to Mohammad Ashraful, who am I? this will be very negative for this young team. Mohd Rafique has retired, Rahim has been dropped, some young cricketers are still finding it hard to play for the national team. e.,g. Zunaid and Rasel.
With Coach Siddons, BD cricket is going through a new phase and players have to adjust quickly.

[rainmaniac]

if ash is removed as the captain, bcb is sure to make shakib the next captain but he is too young...give ash more time..its not even one year...though it was 20-20 game, we did get two victories..and i hope we get some victories against the irish so that ash can feel the pleasure of a winning captain and start working on his captaincy..

[tanim3960]

Wrong Idea.
No Body Is Qualify For Captain Except Razzak

[mshakir56]

Ash is Irresponsible for his own acctions. After making disasterous performance in the series against SA, he calls him unlucky in front of reporter, but fails to accept the fact that he is a non-sense cricketer ! Atleast he could have said, that he needs to work on his batting, that way I would have had more respect for him, because it would seem as if was trying to improve.

[mshakir56]

The less said about Ashraful's captaincy the better. To be frank, he doesn't know how to set a decent attacking field !

[tiger_omar]

Originally Posted by mshakir56
The less said about Ashraful's captaincy the better. To be frank, he doesn't know how to set a decent attacking field !

I will disagree that Ash doesn't know how to set a good attacking field. Some of Ash's decisions are questionable like opening the bowling with Razzak instead of Rajib in the 1st ODI and such, but I think he sets good attacking fields when required.

He's much better at setting attacking fields than Bashar, that doesn't say much, but it's still an improvement. During the New Zeland series when our bowlers were getting a bit of pace and bounce he always had 2 slips and a gully.

The problem with our pitches is that our pacers cannot genereate the pace and bounce there, therefore we don't need a set fields with that many slips and gully fielders. You will notice when the spinners come on, Ash puts in a slip and other close in fielders in Test matches.

I also think that Ash is good at rotating the scarce amount of bowlers that he has to create more pressure on the bastmen.

Overall, I don't really mind his captaincy, I'm worried about his batting form, and if the captaincy is affecting his performance, then we should be looking at other options, but for now I think we should give him a little more time.

[AshfaqurA]

Well, I don't think that Ashraful should be our captain.
He is going through a poor form, for a considerable period of time. Fine, he did play some memorable innings but only few. Look at Ricky Ponting, even if the top order fails, he uses his brain and patience to get to a respectable score. But our Ashraful fails to do that. Look at India, when Sachin Tendulkar was captain, he did not bat very well, so what did India do, took away his captaincy. I don't doubt his talent but he does not put his talent to good use like our other batsmen. Sometimes its just surprising to see bowlers like Razzak scoring 30's and 40's when our top order batsmen like Ashraful scores 8-9 runs. Its just a disgrace. I just don't think he is ready for captaincy.
In my opinion, I think that Sakib-al-Hasan is a better captain than Ashraful. Atleast when he is captain, he bats well. And about his age, captaincy has nothing to do with age. If he has the talent and the ability to lead the team then why not.
Scoilaheez, mentioned that Bashar should not be captain because he is going through a poor form. Then why is Ashraful the captain when he is going through a poor form. He also mentioned that Ashraful needs more time. Well, how much time, 2 years, 5 years. What.... are we just supposed to see our country getting beaten until Ashraful gets his form back. I am sorry but that's just not acceptable.
I think the selectors should also be blamed for the poor form of our team. They just don't put enough pressure on our players. Tamin, for example, should not be picked until he grows up a bit atleast mentally. And why is Farhad Reza not picked regularly when he is a handy batsman and a good bowler. Same with Mahmudullah. I sometimes think our selectors need a kick in the backside just to wake them a bit. Its a real shame that with all the talent that we have got, our team gets whacked every time. And it hurts me.

[auntu]

right now we should not move him from captency but i didnt see anything from him which proves that he is capable of doing the job. I dont see he is fit for the job

[zainab]

There is no one else at the moment to take his place. Tobesides, he is contracted until the end of 2008 with BCB. It is also bad to change captains quickly, not good for the morale of the team. It is not yet one year since he has been captain. He was made captain just before the Sri Lanka tour last July.

[PoorFan]

I have no problem keeping Ash as captain ... on condition ... put a tag of 'BD has no option' back on his a$$ and let him walk around the field. BD need a permanent tag of 'no option' as long as captain is concern, since our cricket history all the time we had 'no option' but Chacha, Haba, and now Ash.

[mali007]

Review and analyze the both practice matches ------ SAKIB was 100% successful as a CAPTAIN. So BCB is grooming him as our future captain.

[BANFAN]

Our biggest problem is batting. Captaincy comes later. No one of current team, will make a big difference as a captain. Lets not complicate the problems further by talking about this issue.

[detroitpagla]

Who cares about the captain our batsman do not know how to bat. Oh...btw at this time AshraDAfool is the only option we have for a captain. I hope ppl aren't thinking to make Nazim Uddin as a captain/v.captain like the practice match. But again anything is possible from our selectors Naimur/Akram aren't a good selectors

[thebest]

we have more pressing issue than talking about Ash's captaincy. You are talking about keeping Ash as captain. Do you think you would play him as a player if you are the captain. I have no problem that he is not scoring run (ok little bit) but I have problem the way he was getting out, throwing his wicket. Let Ash earns his place first then we could think about keeping him as captain or not. Remember HB started to score run again. (OK I am HB fan)