Team for the 2nd Test. Ash, Alamgir IN Sanwar, Tapash OUT

[nasifkhan]

Just heard in the Channel I News

Here is the team:
1. Hannan Sarker
2. Javed Omar
3. Habibul Bashar
4. Mohammed Ashraful
5. Rajin Saleh.
6. Alok Kapali.
7. Khaled Mashud.
8. Mohammad Rafique .
9. Khaled Mahmud.(capt)
10.Mashrafe Bin Murtaza.
11.Alamgir Kabir.



[Edited on 26-8-2003 by nasifkhan]

[Arnab]

Umm... Alamgir Kabir? What are his credentials?

[Nasif]

Can't say that I agree with dropping Sanwar for Ash. Dav should have tried dropping Javed for Ash. Dav probably has good reason.

Alamgir is fast bowler, don't know how good he is, Dav is probably just trying him out.

                  O      M     R    W    Ave   BBI    5  10    SR  Econ

Bowling         241.3   41   895   30  29.83  4-52    0   0  48.3  3.70

[Edited on 26-8-2003 by nasif]

[deshitrader]

If they were going to make Rafique captain, why didnt they drop Sujon instead of Taposh? What is the point of keeping Sujon around if not for the captaincy? Khan bhai, are you sure you heard correctly?

[Nasif]

I don't think Rafiq is captain. Probably just a typo.

[Mahmood]

Definitly a typo.

Alamgir is also coming in as a star from SL U-23 tour. On match he took 7 wickets in one innings aginst the SL U-23. Lets hope he turns out like Rajin - the other star from SL U-23 tour.

I do see why Ash comes in place of Sanwar, not Golla. Dav dont think we have any replacement Opener as Ash is a middle order batsman to him. I guess if Golla stinks further, he will have to select one of the middle order to open, might be Ash. So, eventhough Golla and Sanwar both played the same level (61 balls vs 58 balls), Golla gets to stay, being the only opening choice.

[Ockey]

Having Rafique as captain is one thing that hasn't been talked about much. He is undoubtly the best spinner we have. Can he fill in Captain's position?

[rafiq]

The DS report on the front page quotes Fave as saying he wants to try a left-right pace combination and wouldbring in Manjurul for Tapash. Not Alamgir.

Bringing a left arm bowler for Tapash maybe OK, but bringing Alamgir in for Tapash now doesn't make sense. Alamgir should play the one day series ahead of Shanto and see how he does there. I guess it's easy to get into the test team in Bangladesh.

[muddaser]

dont know much about the two new bangladeshi players.

is ashraful a batsmen or an all rounder.

[nasifkhan]

sorry for the typing mistake.

btw Rajputro Bhai.....

Alamgir took 8 wckts in an inns in the tour of Srilanka. Isnt It??

Just heard that Alamgir can swing the old ball.


And Muddaser ..... Ashraful is a batsman. He is the youngest centurian in Test cricket.



[Edited on 26-8-2003 by nasifkhan]

[Edited on 26-8-2003 by nasifkhan]

[Ehsan]

Mudasser, Ashraful is an all rounder; started with bowling end up finding himself good in batting. His batting is better than bowling (He is a leg spinner), but u can still call him an all rounder. The freaking problem is the so called Captain doesn't allow Ashraful to bowl. I don't know why

[Mahmood]

This report is correct. Ittefaq confirms the announced team with Ash for Sanwar and Alamgir for Taposh.

[fwullah]

Whoa - Alamgir will be smashed, now we will be 2 bowlers short.

You see in my mind, Alamgir is only a younger version of Khaled Mahmud, only the age is with Alamgir.

[sheshprohor]

Observer and daily star published that manju will be palying instead of Tapash not Alamgir.

So is cricinfo....


Confused...


Prohor

[paco]

I've never met Rafique, but I've seen him play many times. Judging from his playing style, and his demeanor on the field, he appears dumber than a rock who is just interested in swinging the bat! I don't know if I would trust him to be the captain of a Kindargarten Cricket Team.

And also, not that it matters, but he doesn't speak one word of english.

[Pundit]

Yeah, one look at him and your impression is dead-on. I wonder why some of us speculate on items we have no clue of.

In particular also, the comments about assigning a new captain and then see him for a test before changing back to Mahmud. What is this, your corridor light switch ??

[Zobair]

vitriolic humour! pundit bhai! you are on fire...literally :P

[paco]

Yeah, one look at him and your impression is dead-on. I wonder why some of us speculate on items we have no clue of.

And I suppose you have facts to prove me wrong ? What credentials or accomplishments, if I may ask, does Rafique have to claim a captaincy spot ?

[Pundit]

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Yeah, one look at him and your impression is dead-on. I wonder why some of us speculate on items we have no clue of.

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Paco Man: I think I was agreeing with you 100%. The first sentence would indicate that ? Or maybe I am not an able writer of the English language?

[paco]

Pundit man:

What ? You weren't being sarcastic ? Oh crap - that was a friendly fire then .. oh well, at least we seem to agree that Rafique is dumber than a bag of rocks.

[Nascer]

fwullah:

I have never seen Alamgir bowling. Is he really the younger version of Sujon?
What is really going on?

[Ockey]

Perhaps I wasn't clear. After the test series in Pakistan it is increasing becoming clear that Khaled Mahmud will either step down or will be replace as captain. All media speculation is focusing on his inability to bat or bowl and his refusal to discontinue bowling after being hammered over after over.

Many of us on the board are suggesting that Sumon is the natural choice to take over. My suggestion was just that maybe Rafique can fill in the position. His induction would, of course, be AFTER the test series. Rafique has been in the side a lot longer than any of the other players. That does not necessarily equate to him being a good captain. But his bowling is undoubtly crucial in ODIs as he can bowl for long spells while giving away very little. In tests he can pretty much do the same although he could do with a few more wickets. He can exploit turn in most wickets out there. Some of you may not know this but he was the opening batsman during the ICC trophy final back in 1997. Throughout the years he has batted further up the order. That seems to suggest to me that he does have some batting capacity. He is a slogger but given more reponsibily he might be forced to focus on his batting.

Paco you seem to have some "clue" as to what is required of a BD captain. My apologies for obviously not being in tune with the latest pre-requisite; apparantly good looks are in nowadays.



[Edited on 27-8-2003 by Ockey]

[paco]

Age and experience isn't everything. Some are able to learn quickly from experience, while others never learn. If experience was the only thing required, then the oldest player in the team would always be the captain.

To be a good captain, one needs to be a good motivator, have good communication skills, ability to learn and react quickly, and needs to be able to out think his opponent. In my humble opinion, Rafique has none of these qualities. He is an average spinner who is struggling to cement his place in the team, and his age is really working against him.

During the 1997 ICC trophy (and a period of time after that) Bangladesh had a serious opener problem. Athar Ali was the only specialist opener, but he took a really long time to set in. So, almost every match he would have a different partner. In the ICC final (and same with our solitary win vs Kenya later on), BD needed some quick runs, so they gambled on Rafique, and Rafique delivered on both occasions. But these days, he can't even manage to slog 10 runs regularly.

p.s. - What's the matter with you Ockey ? Good looks were ALWAYS in - didn't you notice ?