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View Poll Results: who is good replacement of Shakib-al-Hasan as Captain?
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Mushfiqur Rahim
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54.90% |
Mohammad Ashraful
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3.92% |
Mahmudullah Riyad
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23.53% |
Naeem Islam
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1 |
1.96% |
Mashrafe Murtoza(if fit)
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5 |
9.80% |
someone else( name plz)
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April 6, 2010, 03:26 AM
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Probably Mushy is the best candidate as i always hate giving captaincy to a under 25 man so i voted for Fit Mash.
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April 6, 2010, 05:09 AM
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in case of injury the captaincy will automatically go to Mushfiq before any of us gets a 2nd thought.
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April 6, 2010, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BANFAN
Kam na thakle, atleast Akam korar kono mane nai.
Why should there be a replacement of Shakib?I really fail to understand the point.
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Excuse me. language please. if you fail to understand a point, be polite to ask more. nothing AKAM going on here.
Rajin saleh was once vice captain but pilot was given the chance to do over him in case of main captain's absence. more over another aspect of this thread is to think about more available options of captain for future.cuz u never know what's coming in future.look at mash's fortune.couldnt continue as captain in a match.so no one can say even mushfiq is an auto choice. after all captain is a big factor in cricket.
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April 6, 2010, 09:22 AM
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Well its was never a wise decision to give Mash the captaincy. Besides his injury, he is a weak person. Being the main strike bowler in the team, he has been always scared to bowl in the death overs. How could he get a command over the team? And see what he did when he was opted out for the 2nd ODI against England. Such a short-head. He got away with that partly because of BCB's weak policy and partly because we dont have a good fast bowler. He is not a captaincy material.
Siddons talked about making Shakib captain a long time ago while Ash was constantly failing. But the whole country went against him, specially Utpol Shuvro. Now Shakib is the captain. Technically Shakib is not the best captain but he has the command over the team. And he is not scared to express his opinions. I hope he remains healthy and doesnt lose captaincy because of poor form like all other previous captains.
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April 6, 2010, 10:04 AM
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Maybe it would be preferrable to actually bring this decision after the post 2011 WC season. At the moment we have nothing to lose, we cant lose Shakib. Anyway, it would be wiser to give captaincy to Mash or Mushy. SN can also do some captaincy, not to forget Ash(If he is to play).
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April 6, 2010, 10:36 AM
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Captaincy <> underpants.
Keep it simple and steady. Too many changes will turn us in to a laughing stock like another team. Each captain must have a two+ year reign in order to imprint his personality on the team. When it is a young team with a young captain then the time should be more. However, the captain must perform lead from the front in order to have a command over the team.
Mushi's dropping catches is a huge liability in the fielding unit. He does not have an imposing personality either. If Shakib is injured for a long term (Allah na koruk) then Riyad should take the batton. Tamim's personality and play is not captaincy material which at times require patience. Others are not even permanent in the team.
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April 6, 2010, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Captaincy <> underpants.
Keep it simple and steady. Too many changes will turn us in to a laughing stock like another team. Each captain must have a two+ year reign in order to imprint his personality on the team. When it is a young team with a young captain then the time should be more. However, the captain must perform lead from the front in order to have a command over the team.
Mushi's dropping catches is a huge liability in the fielding unit. He does not have an imposing personality either. If Shakib is injured for a long term (Allah na koruk) then Riyad should take the batton. Tamim's personality and play is not captaincy material which at times require patience. Others are not even permanent in the team.
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underpants = - captaincy
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April 6, 2010, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Captaincy <> underpants.
Keep it simple and steady. Too many changes will turn us in to a laughing stock like another team. Each captain must have a two+ year reign in order to imprint his personality on the team. When it is a young team with a young captain then the time should be more. However, the captain must perform lead from the front in order to have a command over the team.
Mushi's dropping catches is a huge liability in the fielding unit. He does not have an imposing personality either. If Shakib is injured for a long term (Allah na koruk) then Riyad should take the batton. Tamim's personality and play is not captaincy material which at times require patience. Others are not even permanent in the team.
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Can't agree there. Size does not = personality. I have never seen anyone get pi**ed off with Mushfiq after he drops catches. Be it Shakib or Mashrafe. He is probably the most popular player among his team-mates. Just because Riyad guided his PCL team to the finals doesn't mean he should become captain all of a sudden. If we follow domestic achievements then Mashrafe should be captain and Shakib shouldn't be anywhere near the captaincy. Plus Riyad still has to prove himself as a vital member of our ODI team. His batting in the England ODIs was appaling. Agree about Tamim. Don't think he is interested in captaincy either.
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April 6, 2010, 10:06 PM
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I think the future captains for BD could be
1. Mushfiqur Rahim
2. Naeem Islam
3. Mahmudullah Riyadh
4. Suhwardy Shuvo
5. Marshall Ayub (need to observe this one, I am not 100% sure yet)
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April 6, 2010, 10:56 PM
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Voted Riyad.
A. Statistically sound.
B. Possess the cool calm manner under pressure like Iceman.
C. All round capability.
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April 7, 2010, 09:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by magic boy
Excuse me. language please. if you fail to understand a point, be polite to ask more. nothing AKAM going on here.
Rajin saleh was once vice captain but pilot was given the chance to do over him in case of main captain's absence. more over another aspect of this thread is to think about more available options of captain for future.cuz u never know what's coming in future.look at mash's fortune.couldnt continue as captain in a match.so no one can say even mushfiq is an auto choice. after all captain is a big factor in cricket.
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Excused. Ak..m isn't a bad language at all. it's reffered to the un productive works not reproductive as you seem to guess.
By any definition, if a team is thinking of a replacement of a captain within 4/5 months (Even Less in Shakib's Case) of appointing someone, i don't have a better labguage for that act. Even the established teams don't do that, and a team like BD definitely can't waste time on this issue, while there are many other major concerns.
If a Vice captain isn't the automatic choice in absense of the regular captain, temporarily. Then I have to call this act also the same. That should be the primary purpose of having a vice captain in the team.
Unnecessary discussion of replacement of the captain without giving him enough time to settle, can only spread negative vibes, as such unproductive or counter productive, deseves to be in the same category of Ak..m.
Sorry, if you don't like it, but that's what is my opinion on the issue. There must be a ground to think of a replacement; I haven't seen that justification established to initiate such discussion.
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April 7, 2010, 11:10 AM
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I think we should forget about captaincy and think about team co-operation. You wont see a team famous for its captain, e.g. India is famous for Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Zaheer who could have never establish themselves as captains
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April 7, 2010, 10:16 PM
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yes Ashraful is best captain, he plays good cricket, he has quickest century record in bangladesh with tape tennis ball
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April 9, 2010, 05:30 AM
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Chacha should be included as the 12th man to do the captaincy and release the kids from some pressure and matobbori.
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April 9, 2010, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Baundule
Chacha should be included as the 12th man to do the captaincy and release the kids from some pressure and matobbori.
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Ha ha ha thats a good idea.
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April 9, 2010, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeeshanM
Voted Riyad.
A. Statistically sound.
B. Possess the cool calm manner under pressure like Iceman.
C. All round capability.
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I voted for Riyad too because:
(1) He is tall and bigger than Mushy.
(2) He is balanced, has patiance and stroke, and does not play risky shots like Ash
(3) Mushy stills needs to establish his role as a batsman when we have a better wicket-keeper
(4) He speaks very well
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April 9, 2010, 11:52 AM
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April 9, 2010, 12:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by baundule
chacha should be included as the 12th man to do the captaincy and release the kids from some pressure and matobbori.
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