Why Nazmul instead of Rubel?

[betaar]

I’m disappointed in not seeing Rubel in our first game against Zim. Nazmul may have bowled pretty ok and got 3 wickets but I do not consider him as a future prospect especially against good oppositions. I know he has bowled some very good spells in couple of matches against Sri Lanka but overall I don’t see the prospect of him being an effective bowler. With his pace or lack of it and no significant swing, good openning batsmen of good teams will play him at will.

I know so far Nazmul showed better control than Rubel but he was also hit mercilessly by Fletcher even of good length balls because of his lack of pace and swing. Rubel on the other hand leaks runs for his lack of control. But because of his raw pace he should still be able to come out good if he learns to control. Pace cannot be taught but control can be and if on the job training is the motto of the current BD team with so many young and talented players, then Rubel should always have a first crack at an opposition at the beginning of the series. With his raw pace on a pitch with a hint of green, he could’ve been more than a handful for these Zim batsmen (no disrespect to them).

If our current team is flying high due to their recent success (even if it’s against a weekend WI team) and are building on that, then the same thing should be true for Rubel. He should be given a chance to taste success of taking some wickets from weaker oppositions and build his confidence and carry that forward facing the stronger ones.

Success breeds success even if the initial success comes from an easy challenge. We cannot afford to miss out on such opportunity (since we are the ones sitting at the bottom of the table) of playing a team that is currently significantly weaker than us. So management should give Rubel the chance he deserves….if he doesn’t succeed in the first 3 matches of 5 oneday series then make way for others.

[MohammedC]

Because Rubel has been complaining of back pain. The reason he was not in the team on first ODI.

Rubel needs rest.

[Mahmood]

Nazmul Played because Rubel got injured. He has pain in his chest. He might be sent back home depending on the diagnosis.

Read the last paragraph...
http://www.prothom-alo.net/V1/index....p?nid=MjU0NTA=

[akabir77]

In a flat pitch like the one we played, I think it was better choice to play naz. Cause rubel would have gotten more beating and lose his confidence.

[MohammedC]

^^^ thanks Mahmood bhai for clearifying that. I thought it was back pain. Any way he is not fully fit so no argument why he is not in the team.

[Murad]

Nazmul bowled really well during the Zimb tour of Bangladesh. In the last match of that tour, he took 3 wickets.

He bowling much better since his comeback.

Naz since January 2009

Career averages

	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	Ave	Econ	SR	4	5
unfiltered	26	25	187.4	14	984	29	4/40	33.93	5.24	38.8	1	0	Profile
filtered	7	7	50.1	4	198	10	3/28	19.80	3.94	30.1	0	0

Career summary

Grouping	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	Ave	Econ	SR	4	5
v Sri Lanka	1	1	10.0	3	30	3	3/30	10.00	3.00	20.0	0	0
v West Indies	1	1	5.0	0	27	1	1/27	27.00	5.40	30.0	0	0
v Zimbabwe	5	5	35.1	1	141	6	3/28	23.50	4.00	35.1	0	0

I don't understand why people complain so much even after he took 3 wickets in the last game? Is this because some of you don't like him?

[betaar]

Originally Posted by MohammedC
^^^ thanks Mahmood bhai for clearifying that. I thought it was back pain. Any way he is not fully fit so no argument why he is not in the team.

Wasted my freakin' time opening this thread..........I had no clue he was injured.....

[dash]

Originally Posted by Mahmood
Nazmul Played because Rubel got injured. He has pain in his chest. He might be sent back home depending on the diagnosis.

Read the last paragraph...
http://www.prothom-alo.net/V1/index....p?nid=MjU0NTA=

Boss the article says he got pain in " pajor" /ribs

[Tokai]

Originally Posted by dash
Boss the article says he got pain in " pajor" /ribs

I'm confused. Did oxford recently changed the meaning of the word "chest".

Last time I checked, chest is what contained ribs.

[Shoikoth]

Great update info on Rubel from everyone. I was curious too.

Murad - why would anyone hate Nazmul ? Liking Rubel more is a legitimate emotion, considering what he can potentially offer. If only we had a 3 week Andy Roberts camp every year, then we'd be guzzing out Mashrafees right and left.

Nazmul is an addition to our long line of onezee twozee bowlers to be tried out. In international cricket, you just can't make an impact with his dimensions.

...but you may argue...what about Rasel ?

Rasel, though not in possession of an envious strike rate or average, has had the distinction of breaking the opening stand when most expected, and thus allowing our slow bowlers to make inroads down the batting order. I know, that's a little hard to capture through stats.

Let's hope though that Nazmul becomes as good as or better than Rasel.

[Tigers_eye]

Rubel needs to be in the academy and A team not in the national team. Lets not put pressure on the kid. Let him grow up. How many we have lost so far? Yes, those hurt us, but this one is special. Keep him away and let him grow. Send him to Australia to play cricket.

For your short term amusement you always give up the long term. What a pitty.

[dash]

Originally Posted by Tokai
I'm confused. Did oxford recently changed the meaning of the word "chest".

Last time I checked, chest is what contained ribs.

In hominids, the chest is the region of the body between the neck and the abdomen, along with its internal organs and other contents. It is mostly protected and supported by the ribcage, spine, and shoulder girdle. Contents of the chest include the following:

• organs
  • heart
  • lungs
• muscles

[auntu]

I think Rubel should be rested for the whole series. Lets not over use him. His body is not ready to take the huge work load for international cricket.

[Fazal]

Why not?

We need to learn how to involve more than 3 FBs in the team by roatating them and keeping them fresh. Otherwise all will have the same faith as Mashrafee with his injury problem.

[Sohel]

Rubel hardly bowled in Caribbean. So I reckon his chest/rib injury is because of something else. The ripped young man is fond of doing gratuitous chin ups without stretching properly. Hope he recovers quickly.

[alibangali]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Rubel needs to be in the academy and A team not in the national team. Lets not put pressure on the kid. Let him grow up. How many we have lost so far? Yes, those hurt us, but this one is special. Keep him away and let him grow. Send him to Australia to play cricket.

For your short term amusement you always give up the long term. What a pitty.

To a certain extent i agree, and he should play in bouncy moving pitches (whether its with national, a team or U19) to improve and build confidence. I dont think its wise to put all the pressure of expectation on him and then gun him down when he fails. let him mature a bit more, give him ocassional outings and utilise other bowlers. Nazmul looks a better bowler in my eyes then robin for ODI's and should get some oppurtunities.
Rubel needs to bulk up as well otherwise his body will not be able to take all the pressure of fast bowling and in the end will become injury prone.

[nycpro96]

nazmul's bowling in recent times has actually impressed me. lets let rubel get healthy before playing him again. rubel seemed pretty impressive to me in the t20 match v Windies. he looked really good in that match.

[betaar]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Rubel needs to be in the academy and A team not in the national team. Lets not put pressure on the kid. Let him grow up. How many we have lost so far? Yes, those hurt us, but this one is special. Keep him away and let him grow. Send him to Australia to play cricket.

For your short term amusement you always give up the long term. What a pitty.

This could be argued for the whole BD team bar 3-4 of our players. The fast track attitude of BCB doesn't comply with your or my sentiment. Since we cannot change the inevitable....we must live with it; hence my reasoning of him getting trained on the job against all oppositions, especially the weaker ones.

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by betaar
This could be argued for the whole BD team bar 3-4 of our players. The fast track attitude of BCB doesn't comply with your or my sentiment. Since we cannot change the inevitable....we must live with it; hence my reasoning of him getting trained on the job against all oppositions, especially the weaker ones.

How many Rubel's did BD find in her 9 years of test status? There is only one Rubel. Save him.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Don't underestimate Nazmul - he's a pretty useful bowler and given the current forms of our available FBs, probably up there with Rasel.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
How many Rubel's did BD find in her 9 years of test status? There is only one Rubel. Save him.

Plus he's only 19...

[Ashfaq]

Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
How many Rubel's did BD find in her 9 years of test status? There is only one Rubel. Save him.

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Plus he's only 19...

Exactly. We arte looking at the future pace spearhead of Asia. Being patient with him is not only prudent, it's our duty. We can't afford another Talha-esque F-up.

[MohammedC]

Its nearly 2 year since Rubels discovery.
Can we not find another who can be ready in 5 years time? What happened to pacer hunt.

[chol_bd123]

Rubel is no Mohammed Aamer

[MohammedC]

Originally Posted by chol_bd123
Rubel is no Mohammed Aamer

Who the....is Aamer? Is he from Bangladesh?