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November 16, 2005, 02:06 PM
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Ashraful and Sonargaon Cricketers
I recently read in a newspaper that the reason Ashraful joined Sonargaon Cricketers is because he wanted to get used to the fact that he wants to play against stronger teams all the time. As Bangladesh always play stronger teams in international cricket, being in a team which is new allows him to get used to this situation when he plays big teams like Mohamedan, Abahoni or Bimon.
What do you guys think? Is it for real or money talks? hehe... :P
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November 16, 2005, 02:46 PM
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Does it matter playing against stronger or weaker competition when he scores a duck or 1's?
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November 16, 2005, 02:53 PM
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9 lakh taka pele ei dhoroner kotha bolte bhalo laage.
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November 16, 2005, 03:45 PM
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lol.... rather than saying this kinda stuff, he should concentrate on his batting.... if he can't do well here, how can we expect something big from him in international matches.
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November 16, 2005, 04:12 PM
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Never heard of "Sonargaon Cricketers" before.
Just wondering who is this "Sonargaon Cricketers"? Where they came from all of a sudden? Moreover how they managed to spend more than 10 million taka for this tournament where as more established teams with well known sponsers are having hard time to arrange the funding?
They must have invented a "takar gach".
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November 16, 2005, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by sadi
lol.... rather than saying this kinda stuff, he should concentrate on his batting.... if he can't do well here, how can we expect something big from him in international matches.
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Ranatunga/Jayasuria didn't play well in our domestic cricket
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November 16, 2005, 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Spitfire_x86
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Originally posted by sadi
lol.... rather than saying this kinda stuff, he should concentrate on his batting.... if he can't do well here, how can we expect something big from him in international matches.
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Ranatunga/Jayasuria didn't play well in our domestic cricket
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Atleast they played well in the international games ... I am not sure when I will see another good innings from Ashraful.......
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November 16, 2005, 04:37 PM
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i don't care where he is playing or how much he is earning, the only thing i care if he scores runs for bd.
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November 16, 2005, 05:44 PM
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I would be curious to know who is financing Sonargaon Cricketers. Most likely somebody is whitening there black money.
I think ashraful will play couple goods innings and a couple of ducks... which will keep his league average at 30
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November 16, 2005, 08:09 PM
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9 lakh + Ash =0 if he does not perform.
We need a competition among players of not winning matches but winning them big and breaking /creading records in the leagues on a continual basis.
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November 16, 2005, 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by banglar_dorbesh
i don't care where he is playing or how much he is earning, the only thing i care if he scores runs for bd.
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I totally AGREE with you..
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November 17, 2005, 11:59 AM
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Its going to be interesting to see how our national team players perform in Dhaka league as it will be the league in a long time where all the players participate.... I still haven't seen any national team player performing really well in Dhaka league which says a lot about our talent..... Those who are in the team and those who are not in the team... there isn't much difference between them....
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November 17, 2005, 12:32 PM
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still the oldies like Akram Khan and Chacha is perfoming in the league
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November 17, 2005, 01:55 PM
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National booters slam Ashraful
National footballers slammed national cricketer Md Ashraful for his statement that the footballers get more money than the cricketers in the team transfer but had not brought any international success. The national footballers termed the statement as narrow-minded and questioned Ashraful's knowledge of the country's football. They condemned the act. NewAgeBD
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November 18, 2005, 10:31 AM
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National booters slam Ashraful
National footballers slammed national cricketer Md Ashraful for his statement that the footballers get more money than the cricketers in the team transfer but had not brought any international success. The national footballers termed the statement as narrow-minded and questioned Ashraful's knowledge of the country's football. They condemned the act. NewAgeBD
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They'd better serve their own interest by slamming a few goals rather than Ash.
Asharaful stated a mere fact, not an opinion. Footballers need to grow up.
On a related note, the new coach seems to be having some effect. So, keeping my fingers crossed.
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November 18, 2005, 10:35 AM
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i dont think it's true that the footies get paid more. the highest that anyone ever went was 6 lakhs for aminul, the national gk, AFAIR.
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November 18, 2005, 10:39 AM
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Well if Aminul gets paid 6 lakhs, then most of our cricketers deserve more than 6 lakhs....... I agree with Ash.... our footballers are good for nothing....... our cricketers deserve more.....
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November 18, 2005, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sauron
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Originally posted by Fazal
National booters slam Ashraful
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They'd better serve their own interest by slamming a few goals rather than Ash.
Asharaful stated a mere fact, not an opinion. Footballers need to grow up.
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True. That is one way to see the issue, because Asharaful stated a mere fact.
On the other side, someone can argue that regardless of fact or fiction (as stated by Ash), it was not wise to bring down your fellow players of other sports to justify your salary. We all know soccer is having a lean time and they may no longer #1 sport in Bangladesh. So why kicking some-one/group who is/are already down? We all know that compared with other sports, BD cricketer are brining maximum glory to us even though they are competing against the best. So why not pick up those +ve logics like these to make your(Ashs) point. If Bangladeshi players makes good money, good for them. Very few people will complain. But what's the point of making a point by putting down another group? At least in my book that is not called intelligent strategy or leadership quality.
Edited on, November 18, 2005, 5:55 PM GMT, by Fazal.
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November 19, 2005, 01:49 PM
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footies play the whole season.
not like cricketers. except this season.
but, ash only pointed a fact.
whats to condem.
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November 19, 2005, 01:53 PM
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footies play the whole season.
not like cricketers. except this season.
but, ash only pointed a fact.
whats to condem.
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November 19, 2005, 02:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fazal
Never heard of "Sonargaon Cricketers" before.
Just wondering who is this "Sonargaon Cricketers"? Where they came from all of a sudden? Moreover how they managed to spend more than 10 million taka for this tournament where as more established teams with well known sponsers are having hard time to arrange the funding?
They must have invented a "takar gach".
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Good article about our cricket and cricketers. Also you will get your answer about Sonargaon Cricketers
http://www.shaptahik2000.com/shonkha...cr20051118.pdf
Edited on, November 20, 2005, 3:40 PM GMT, by CricTiger.
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November 21, 2005, 10:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Fazal
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it was not wise to bring down your fellow players of other sports to justify your salary. We all know soccer is having a lean time and they may no longer #1 sport in Bangladesh. So why kicking some-one/group who is/are already down? We all know that compared with other sports, BD cricketer are brining maximum glory to us even though they are competing against the best. So why not pick up those +ve logics like these to make your(Ashs) point. Edited on, November 18, 2005, 5:55 PM GMT, by Fazal.
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Now this is a pretty immature assessment coming from Stuart Little.
Regardless of whichever way you look at it, the fact is that if you compare performance vs salary for Soccer Vs Cricket, our cricketers do deserve what they get and more.
That is the point.
Now Ash may have softened up the tone and fuzzed it a bit (like saying "intellectually challenged" instead of saying "dumb"). But why would he even need to do that?
Plus, I bet Ash didn't know that our footballers have a softer side (LOL)
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November 21, 2005, 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Sauron
Now this is a pretty immature assessment coming from Stuart Little.
Regardless of whichever way you look at it, the fact is that if you compare performance vs salary for Soccer Vs Cricket, our cricketers do deserve what they get and more.
That is the point.
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You really disappointed me Sauron by your comment.
I would ask you to re- read my initial comment again. There is little argument about the validity of the fact here as stated by my comment, True. That is one way to see the issue, because Asharaful stated a mere fact. Even an immature kid knows that. And that was not my point.
As a fan, we can tell the simple truth even though truth is sometimes bitter to sallow. Nobody cares what we say, we can say the truth brutally or diplomatically whatever way we wish.
But in case of a superstar like Ashraful, he needs to be more carefully what and how he says it in the media. Because he is a superstar who performs superbly (but randomly) and its money related issue, it is ill advised comment (the way he said it) not because of his own career but also for his sports.
For example you can say:
a) Footballer has brought zero success for the nation whereas cricketer has brought quite few stunning success to the nation. Therefore cricketer should earn more money than a footballer, who has nothing to show for as their achievement.
b) Cricketers gave quite a few stunning success for the nation compared with other sports. Therefore cricketers deserve to earn more money than other sports in Bangladesh.
Now as a fan we can state both of the statements, which are both right. Now what do you want your upcoming superstar (and potential team leader) to say in the media?
If you still dont get it. What I can do? Just may be accept the fact that if some people doesnt get they just dont get it. Lives goes on.
Edited on, November 21, 2005, 5:03 PM GMT, by Fazal.
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November 21, 2005, 12:04 PM
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If the footies didnot do anything in the international stage is a mere fact, then it is also a mere fact that the Cricketers have brought more humiliation for the country than the footies. So Ash please keep your mouth shut and concentrate on your batting. 0, 1, 9 does not cut it or justifies 9 lakh salary for 3 months.
The only people who ranks higher than the cricketers in humiliation category are our beloved politicians. Mere fact.
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November 21, 2005, 12:10 PM
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Aminul is getting 19 lakhs,, not 6 lakhs. Footballers usually gets more pay as other than the league, they dont have any other earnings. If you consider the international duties, national cricketers get more than fooballers. As the latter dont even get match fees. And believe it or not, Soccer still draws significant amount of crowds, have better group sponsorship than cricket. Dhaka Abohani or Mohammedans are synonymous to Soccer,,, not cricket.
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