Match Thread: 1st Test, Bangladesh vs. West Indies at SBNS, Dhaka; November 13-17, 2012

[AsifTheManRahman]

Bhaiya, ei shob polapain re utshaho dile abar ulta joshe uithe 60 mph bouncer maira dile tokhon toh aar Gayle er mairer jorey Dhaka shohorer charipashe 20 mile radius er moddheo ball khuijja pawon jaibo na.

[WarWolf]

So they are gonna announce the squad tomorrow morning just before play? is there any injury issue?

[boka]

পোলাডা কাইলাকা খেলার সম্ভাবনাই বেশী মনেহয় সবার কথাবার্তায় (!!)
আর আজকাইলের পোলা হে যদি এই ফোরামে ঢুমারে তয় তো তার মনডা ভাইঙ্গা খান-খান হয়া যাইবারপারে
হের তো কোন দোষ নাই আকরম ভাইরা তারে নেছে হে কি করবে

তয় একখান কথা টেস্টে সুযোগ পাইয়া ভাইজান যদি কাজের কাজ কিছু কইরাই ফেলে তাইলে না আমগো কিছু উপকার হয়

[M.H.Rubel]

According to cricinfo:
Bangladesh (possible): 1 Tamim
Iqbal, 2 Junaid Siddique, 3
Shahriar Nafees, 4 Naeem Islam, 5
Mushfiqur Rahim (capt & wk), 6
Shakib Al Hasan, 7 Mahmudullah
(vice-capt), 8 Nasir Hossain, 9 Elias
Sunny, 10 Shahadat Hossain, 11
Rubel Hossain

[WarWolf]

I want to have one batsman short and take Shohag in the team. IMHO we can afford to drop either of SN or Riyad. A wicket taking bowler would add much value to the team.

[mufi_02]

Originally Posted by WarWolf
I want to have one batsman short and take Shohag in the team. IMHO we can afford to drop either one of SN or Riyad. A wicket taking bowler would add much value to the team.

Riyad can't be dropped as he is VC. I will have SN dropped for Gazi. 2 pacers, 2 SLAs, 1 offie will be a good bowling attack. But questions is, will they consider Riyad as that offie or Gazi. Riyad bowls well in longer formats and it was he who caused the damage in WI. Naeem can bowl offspin too. Ahhh too many bowling options!!

Shakib also has to move up. He should bat at 4 or 5. 6 is too low for him.

[kumar89]

Originally Posted by cricheart
If Abul is really getting chance again, all the best wishes for him then. As if everyone alrady knows he is gonna fail again! Hopefully this Syloti king will save his team and deshi jaat-somman.

why do you Generalise a player by district e.g. Syloti King? is it wrong for a player to come from Sylhet and play for national team, I find it very negative that not only you but anyone pointing fingers at people just becuase they are from certain place in Bangladesh. do you hear people from Sylhet refer to players like Ashraful... The dhakaya King after so many failures? I like to point out that in the upcoming future most or majority of the pacers will come from sylhet. we have some young pace talent and need to guide and develop them well. This will be very good for bangladesh not just for sylhet. The country should come first before district. thanks.

[Razi]

টেস্টক্যাপ পরবেন সোহাগ গাজী

স্পোর্টস করেসপন্ডেন্ট
বাংলানিউজটোয়েন্� �িফোর.কম

ঢাকা: ওয়েস্ট ইন্ডিজের বিপক্ষে টেস্ট অভিষেক হতে পারে ডানহাতি অফ স্পিনার সোহাগ গাজীর। নির্ভরযোগ্য সূত্র জানিয়েছে, তাকে রেখেই একাদশ সাজিয়েছে টিম ম্যানেজমেন্ট।

ব্যাটিংয়ে ওপেন করবেন দুই বাঁহতি ব্যাটসম্যান তামিম ইকবালের সঙ্গে শাহরিয়ার নাফীস খেলতে পারেন। শাহরিয়ার ওপেন করলে জুনায়েদ সিদ্দিকী তিন নম্বরে ব্যাট করবেন। নাঈম ইসলামকে খেলানো হতে পারে চার নম্বরে। এরপর সাকিব আল হাসান, মুশফিকুর রহিম, মাহমুদউল্লাহ, নাসির হোসেন, রুবেল হোসেন ও সাহাদাত হোসেনকে নিয়ে সাজানো হয়েছে একাদশ।

স্পিনের ওপর জোর দিয়েই খেলতে যাচ্ছে বাংলাদেশ। সাকিব, গাজী, মাহমুদউল্লাহ ও নাঈম ইসলামের সঙ্গে নাসির হোসেনকে দিয়েও স্পিন করাতে পারবেন অধিনায়ক মুশফিকুর রহিম। দুই পেসার নিয়ে খেলার সিদ্ধান্ত হওয়ায় আবুল হাসান রাজুকে টেস্ট অভিষেকের জন্য অপেক্ষা করতে হবে। আপাতত অভিজ্ঞ দু’জনই খেলছেন। সবচেয়ে গুরুত্বপূর্ণ হলো বাংলাদেশ একাদশে নয় জন ব্যাট করতে পারেন।

বাংলাদেশ সম্ভাব্য একাদশ: তামিম ইকবাল, শাহরিয়ার নাফীস, জুনায়েদ সিদ্দিক, নাঈম ইসলাম, সাকিব আল হাসান, মুশফিকুর রহিম, মাহমুদউল্লাহ, নাসির হোসেন, সোহাগ গাজী, সাহাদাত হোসেন ও রুবেল হোসেন।

অতিরিক্ত: নাজিমউদ্দিন, ইলিয়াস সানি ও আবুল হাসান রাজু।

[AsifTheManRahman]

If that is true, what has Elias done to get chopped?

[kumar89]

Originally Posted by shuziburo
If we were to follow a system, Abul should have played more before thrust into the international arena. No international team plays bowlers as raw as Abul. I will be happy to be wrong, but Abul is likely in for a rough treatment...

I believe players like Pat Cummins (Aus), Milne (NZ) James Pattinson (Aus) was introduced very early at international stage. I don't disagree, maybe Abul needed bit more time domestically. Surely you need to motivate your fastest Pace bowlers?

[mufi_02]

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
If that is true, what has Elias done to get chopped?

Gazi is the new hype and he can bat as well.

[Tiger444]

Doesn't really make sense that we're playing with Riyad and Naeem. Both are similar type of players. We should be playing with just 1 of them. I see some people want SN dropped instead. Are people confident in Naeem batting at #3 then? I think we should be playing Sohag and Elias in my opinion.

[WarWolf]

Originally Posted by kumar89
I believe players like Pat Cummins (Aus), Milne (NZ) James Pattinson (Aus) was introduced very early at international stage. I don't disagree, maybe Abul needed bit more time domestically. Surely you need to motivate your fastest Pace bowlers?

Greatest motivation is wickets in FC level.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by mufi_02
Gazi is the new hype and he can bat as well.

Elias can bat too, but only in FC. Anyways, I don't see how they can even think of a team without the greatest talent of the year, deserving of ICC's upcoming player award, Abul Hasan. Leaving Ashraful out was hard enough to digest.

[Nadim]

I have no complain if we score 450+ with 8 batsman, but the probability is very low for that so drop Someone and get Sunny

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[kumar89]

Originally Posted by WarWolf
Greatest motivation is wickets in FC level.

then surely players like Tapash Baisya (177 wickets), Mohammad Sharif (277 Wickets) and Mahbubul Alam (133 wickets) and so on should walk into national team with eyes closed?

[Naimul_Hd]

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
If that is true, what has Elias done to get chopped?

WI has 5-6 lefties. Taking another SLA (Shakib is already there) won't help us. Shohag is a genuine right handed off spinner unlike Riyad. Playing Shohag alongside with Naeem will put more pressure on lefties.

[Ajfar]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
Doesn't really make sense that we're playing with Riyad and Naeem. Both are similar type of players. We should be playing with just 1 of them. I see some people want SN dropped instead. Are people confident in Naeem batting at #3 then? I think we should be playing Sohag and Elias in my opinion.

Sohag and Sunny both needs to play. Playing with 4 full time bowler doesn't work in Test. Riyad, Nasir can bowl few here and there but they are not full time bowler. I don't think we should play Naeem at number 3, let him play at number 4. That's the position he has been scoring runs in, no need to change anything around. I would play Naeem instead of Riyad, and Zunaed instead of SN.

[kumar89]

Allah help Shakib and Bangladesh, If Elias does not play shakib has to bowl like 50+ overs as SLA alone in the 1st Test. Crisis Awaits us and Shakib's injury... help. I think Saqlain Mustaq is behind the inclusion of Sohag Gazi for the 1st Test.

[Dhakablues]

As crappy of a team as we we are in Test cricket, I think, Elias Sunny shouldve been selected. Though, having Gazi brings a variey in our all left arm spin attack and he could be useful, as they are saying, against the leftie batsmen of WI squad. Nevertheless, I think Sunny has the experience needed to take wickets against top class batsmen. Both players have few centuries in First Class cricket and both are effective in domestic circuit. The move to bring in one or the other can prove to be pivotal because an off-form Shakib alone cannot be taking those 20 wickets we need..And Nasir/Naeem/Riad arent taking more than 3-4 wickets in total, I would assume..

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
If that is true, what has Elias done to get chopped?

Originally Posted by nadim 98
I have no complain if we score 450+ with 8 batsman, but the probability is very low for that so drop Someone and get Sunny

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Just drop Nafees/Zunaid/Mullah and pick Sunny and Gazi both = Win our second test.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by Ajfar
Sohag and Sunny both needs to play. Playing with 4 full time bowler doesn't work in Test. Riyad, Nasir can bowl few here and there but they are not full time bowler. I don't think we should play Naeem at number 3, let him play at number 4. That's the position he has been scoring runs in, no need to change anything around. I would play Naeem instead of Riyad, and Zunaed instead of SN.

Actually in Tests, we see teams playing with 4 full time bowlers. For example, Australia is playing with Hilfenhaus, Siddle, Lyon, and Pattinson, then South Africa is playing with Steyn, Morkel, Philander, and Kleinveldt. India usually go with Ishant, Zaheer, Yadav and Ashwin. England goes with Broad, Swann, Anderson and Bresnan. So it's not uncommon to play with 4 full time bowlers. Since Shakib is basically a full time bowler, that's why we're seeing the team management batting up to 8 and then the rest are filled with full timers. I don't mind that but I feel we should not overwork Shakib the way we have. Let him focus more on his batting while Sohag and Elias bowl the bulk of the bowling.

[kumar89]

why can't the line-up not be like this:

1) Tamim Iqbal, 2) Shariar Nafees, 3) Junaid Siddique, 4) Naeem Islam, 5) Shakib Al Hasan
6) Nasir Hossain, 7) Mushfiqur Rahim, 8) Sohag Gazi, 9) Elias Sunny, 10) Shahadat Hossain,
11) Rubel Hossain.

on what basis is Elias getting dropped?

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
I feel we should not overwork Shakib the way we have. Let him focus more on his batting while Sohag and Elias bowl the bulk of the bowling.

Yes, we should pick both ^^^ as Gazi can bat as well.

I wonder if the selectors have the courage to go beyond the Ashrafool!!!

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by kumar89
why can't the line-up not be like this:

1) Tamim Iqbal, 2) Shariar Nafees, 3) Junaid Siddique, 4) Naeem Islam, 5) Shakib Al Hasan
6) Nasir Hossain, 7) Mushfiqur Rahim, 8) Sohag Gazi, 9) Elias Sunny, 10) Shahadat Hossain,
11) Rubel Hossain.

on what basis is Elias getting dropped?

You can't leave out Mullah!
He is the VC and did well against the Indies last time.

Why can't you leave out Nafees/Zunaid - one can be dropped to make way for Gazi, simple!!