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June 7, 2005, 07:40 PM
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BD must improve bowling for Natwest Series
If Bangladesh bowl anything like they did in the test series, at Durham especially where any county side could of made a better effort, Bangladesh will find themselves on the wrong end of some big 300+ totals, if England or Australia bat first.
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June 7, 2005, 08:03 PM
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I agree with this statement. 6 wickets from a total possible of 40 is nothing to be pround of. Like i mention some time ago we need a specialist bowling and batting coach.
Maybe Tendulkar or Waqar or Wasim
Tendulkar is auctioning 15 mintues of batting practice for the highest bidder for charity. Then after the coaching session, the bidder can go out to the middle of the ground (the Brit Oval) and face an over from Shane Warne. This is at the Tsunami charity match.
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June 7, 2005, 08:47 PM
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if we follow this formula i think we wont get hammered.
Rana 4-5 overs
Rafique 4-5 overs
Tapash 10 overs
Mashrafe 10 opening overs as well as the slog overs
Mahmoud 5-7 overs
Aftab 10 overs
Ashraful 3-4 overs
We cant play the spinners as much in the openening matches as it gets to the end of June we should play Rafique and Rana 10 overs. But for the first couple of matches they should be limited.
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June 7, 2005, 09:11 PM
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We have to add Nazmul Hossain and Khaled Mahmud then we would be more stronger than that what we are now .
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June 7, 2005, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bangla amar Maa
We have to add Nazmul Hossain and Khaled Mahmud then we would be more stronger than that what we are now .
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unfortunately, you can play only 11 players in a team.
unless of course u find a way to do some "jonesing".
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June 9, 2005, 12:34 PM
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I think Junior should have gotten another chance at the one-dayers. I think he could be more efficetive now that the temperatures are climbing up.
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June 9, 2005, 04:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by AgentSmith
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Originally posted by Bangla amar Maa
We have to add Nazmul Hossain and Khaled Mahmud then we would be more stronger than that what we are now .
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unfortunately, you can play only 11 players in a team.
unless of course u find a way to do some "jonesing".
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"jonesing"...How do u mean?
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June 9, 2005, 07:39 PM
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forgot the Nafees iqbal incident so quickly?
jonesing = doing jones like thins (i.e: cheating).
we can use them synonymously from now on in this board.
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June 9, 2005, 07:44 PM
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yea i agree with agent smith..............we need to do some "jonesing" to win matches..................after all we learned cricket from the brits lol............so lets pick up one more strategy of theirs and use it on themselves................maybe if the coach isnt from New Zealand, our "jonesing" would probably work really well lol..................but IF and only IF looool.......
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June 9, 2005, 07:45 PM
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sorry for the mistake in my last reply.....i accidentally put "coach" instead of "umpire".........i meant "if the umpire isnt from New Zealand" lol
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June 10, 2005, 12:29 PM
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BD bowlers are showing worse of their forms. What is going on? Are they having any bowling practice session at all? Is drinking prohibition in effect?
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June 10, 2005, 01:56 PM
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i dont know .this is the worst form of bd bowlers
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June 10, 2005, 02:45 PM
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Should play 5 bowlers....
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June 10, 2005, 02:50 PM
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After the test series, why did we send back 3 of the pacers - talha, shahadat, monir and replaced them with players who are nice on paper but everyone knows they won't take wickets in england - sujon, rana to be exact. i feel at least one more pacer should have been in the squad, and one from sujon or rana should have been sacrificed. That will enrage their fans, but look at the bowling against Derbyshire - Bashar, Rajin, everyone had to get into the act and it wasn;t enough!
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June 11, 2005, 11:25 AM
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I agree -100%.
in other words disagree 100%.
see, we have been trying with pacers so far on the basis that england pitches are pacers friendly. what did we get. one big "ash-sho dimbo". our pacers are just not good enough for this level even with the help of the pitches. i think its time we look into what is our strength rather than what the situation requires. the siutation requires pacers, but we don't have any. if we keep using them, the same thing will happen. 12 over century and a perfect wagon wheel lines going all over the field. rafique had been much better. and so could be enamul if he was played instead of shahadat or munir. munir is still a big mystory to me, how did he get into the 21 men squad? rest, lets not talk about it. now in odi, we don't have enamul already. but we can use spinners more. even if they don't do good, they will not do any worse. i mean there is no way to get any worse. besides, rana's batting is always a plus. he is one non talented useless batsman who always ends up with better scores than others. i say, use both rana and rafique constantly and taposh/chacha/nazmul shares 2 matches each.
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June 11, 2005, 12:18 PM
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how did he get into the 21 men squad?
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I think I know why Anwar Hossain Munir is keep getting into the team while others can't.
The answer is in Shahadat. While Shahadat and pace bowlers like him just bowl as fast as they can, Anwar Hossain actually tries to use his brains.
Now to the question of why Anwar Hossain can't bowl economically even if he does have brains - that is where we should look to search for answers more deeply. Frankly speaking, I think it lies in the standard of our domestic cricket - our domestic players (batsman) struggle against pace bowlers - and here, someone like Anwar Hossain Munir comes in.
It is my understanding that when a new and emerging pace bowler comes to play for Bangladesh, they generally tend to take a little bit of time to get adjusted to the situation - to learn to bowl economically - here, most of our emerging pace bowlers fail; and that is exactly where and why pace bowlers like Nazmul Hossain, Mushfiqur Rahman slunts in and take the opportunity with both hands to play for Bangladesh.
Why or how else do you think somebody with as slow as Mushfiqur Rahman's pace comes into the Bangladesh national side?
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June 11, 2005, 03:43 PM
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i dont think shahadat is that bad. he was just over aggressive and forgot that he was bowling against class batsman like vaughan or tresco who can punish him for mistakes. but i think he is going to learn from this. he has height and bit of pace. just needs to use his brain more.
Bd nees another 2-3 pacers like mashrafi and with experience it can be a force in near future.
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June 11, 2005, 05:06 PM
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I reckon Bangladesh should just take the pace off the ball.
England and Australia will both want to hit your bowlers all over the park, and dominate you to show their class, by taking the pace off the ball the England and Australia batsman will have to put pace on the ball themselves through brute power, this can often lead to misqueued shots, meaning you may pick up some wickets and gain some respectibility. Certainly England always seem to cock it up when playing medium pacers.
Mashrafees your best bowler so he should play, but you should just stick to medium pacers after that, and Rafique.
Edited on, June 11, 2005, 10:07 PM GMT, by rob22888.
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June 12, 2005, 08:26 AM
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fw, your argument would work if munir had a good domestic season. he has something like 4 wicket in 7 match or 7 wicket in 4 match something like that. something well below substandard, even for domestic league. let alone coming to national team leaving chacha and nazmul behind.
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June 12, 2005, 11:35 AM
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Can somebody not allow munir to be playing for Bangladesh. He looks physically unfit.
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