**Official everything about Elias Sunny thread**

[Fazal]

So we have a Murali in Nasir, a Swan in Sunny and Malinga in Rubel beside Tendulker in ...

[Murad]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
^^^ his action is most similar to Graeme Swann's, imo.

Yes you are right. Looks similar.

Here is a clip of Swann's bowling.

[Dhakablues]

I do remember hearing his stories when his mom used to accompany him all the time to the fields when he was young man...She always was there to inspire him in all of his matches!! He has a solid foundation like the other BKSP boys (shakib, mushfique, nasir, raj etc.) and also built his credentials after performing... This is a lessons learned for the selectors to allow NCL, Leagues to be the leading indicators of selecting a player irrespective of his age!!

[Dilscoop]

He us still only 26 people! You guys make sound he is some old fart! I guess by Bangla standard he is very old. He is 10 years too late isn't he?

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[IanW]

The thing about Sunny is that he isnt a "talent", elevated to the Test team on potential at 18.

He's there from nine years of hard slog in domestic cricket, from year after year of delivering solid performances ... and so the next step is just another game.

[F6_Turbo]

Bit harsh calling him a 'journeyman at' 25-26. If he'd gotten his test debut at 30-31, fair enough. But 25-26, he is probably just about ready to come into his prime.

Someone like Graeme Swann didn't get his test debut until he was almost 29, and at 32, now already has 150+ test wickets, and almost 100 ODI wickets.

His age isn't an issue, if anything like a couple of others have said, it might be a positive. He'll be more mature as an individual, and hopefully that will also show itself in Sunny the cricketer.


Early doors of course...

[Equinox]

^I think his real age might be close to that.

[RazabQ]

Sunny's bright start is a great story for many reasons. Here are some that I think are big.
1) It's a sign of our maturation as a cricketing nation. We are not throwing some 18-19 year old on the Test arena. Rather a seasoned professional. We need a balance of these pros and the precocious talents (like Nasir) for us to be successful.

2) It sends a great message to the mid, late 20s cricket players that their ship has not already sailed. That if they do the hard yards in domestic cricket, international glory is still possible. Old pros are the incubators of new talents and we need the likes of Nafis Iqbal, Tushar Imran, Faisal Hossain to play long in the domestic circuit. And if they do consistently well, they can bring their game to the Tests.

3) It somehow shows that despite ALL the odds stacked against our domestic cricket, the standard is ok enough to breed _some_ international class players. Let's not forget, Imrul Kayes is also a output of domestic cricket and not some academy.

4) Sunny's fearlessness in flighting the ball should shake Shakib out of his limited-overs overdose induced, Bhajji-esque, flatness. Recently Shakib has been firing the ball in too much and a little too full. Witness how Sunny was causing the batters to lunge forward while Shak they could defend just by getting a little forward. Shakib is a competitor and a good thinker of the game. He's going to be sleeping on his lack of wickets and the success of Sunny and tomorrow I'm optimistic that he'll be bowling slower and and with a bit more of an intent to attack rather than contain.

[RazabQ]

Sunny's bright start is a great story for many reasons. Here are some that I think are big.
1) It's a sign of our maturation as a cricketing nation. We are not throwing some 18-19 year old on the Test arena. Rather a seasoned professional. We need a balance of these pros and the precocious talents (like Nasir) for us to be successful.

2) It sends a great message to the mid, late 20s cricket players that their ship has not already sailed. That if they do the hard yards in domestic cricket, international glory is still possible. Old pros are the incubators of new talents and we need the likes of Nafis Iqbal, Tushar Imran, Faisal Hossain to play long in the domestic circuit. And if they do consistently well, they can bring their game to the Tests.

3) It somehow shows that despite ALL the odds stacked against our domestic cricket, the standard is ok enough to breed _some_ international class players. Let's not forget, Imrul Kayes is also a output of domestic cricket and not some academy.

4) Sunny's fearlessness in flighting the ball should shake Shakib out of his limited-overs overdose induced, Bhajji-esque, flatness. Recently Shakib has been firing the ball in too much and a little too full. Witness how Sunny was causing the batters to lunge forward while Shak they could defend just by getting a little forward. Shakib is a competitor and a good thinker of the game. He's going to be sleeping on his lack of wickets and the success of Sunny and tomorrow I'm optimistic that he'll be bowling slower and and with a bit more of an intent to attack rather than contain.

[F6_Turbo]

Originally Posted by Equinox
^I think his real age might be close to that.

Hah...not being born in Bangladesh has robbed me of the opportunity to be a part of the 'certificate age' crew

[Murad]

5 wkt haul for sunny on debut

Congrats boy

[Zeeshan]

Congratulations on a debut Pfeiffer!!!!

[wiseshah]

i think first time someone stole lime light from shakib in any single matches. anyway, shakib will show his capability now.

[WarWolf]

Good achievement, man.

[Murad]

Best figures on Debut.

Sunny is leading at the moment.

[Night_wolf]

^do u know what is the best figure overall?...not just for BD

[Murad]

Originally Posted by Night_wolf
^do u know what is the best figure overall?...not just for BD

Here is the list
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/con...ds/283346.html

Best figure over all is 8/43 in 1895 by an Australian

[Dilscoop]

Originally Posted by Murad
Here is the list
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/con...ds/283346.html

Best figure over all is 8/43 in 1895 by an Australian

Hirwani is the most impressive TBH. He only took 15 overs to do it. It shouldn't be Wickets-Econ. It should be wickets-overs-econ

[Murad]

Originally Posted by Dilscoop
Hirwani is the most impressive TBH. He only took 15 overs to do it. It shouldn't be Wickets-Econ. It should be wickets-overs-econ

He took 8 wickets in both innings. 16/136 on debut. wow

[Dilscoop]

And yet, he is not at the top of the table!! That's why I hate how cricketing stats work. If you look at baseball stats, they are so much more deep and definite and much more "fair." I think Fountain also talked about this issue in his thread.

Anywho, well done to Sunny. He really did brighten up Ctg after 2 days of wash out! Keep it up. And may you not be the next Enamul Haq Jr.

[Night_wolf]

Wow..hirwani 16 wickets in debut

"He was aided, it must be stressed, by a deplorably under-prepared pitch," said Wisden's correspondent, Dicky Rutnagur. And though Hirwani took 20 further wickets in his next three Test appearances, his fortunes changed when he left the spin-friendly surfaces of India. The magic never quite returned, and the arrival of Anil Kumble sentenced him largely to domestic cricket.

found this on cricinfo but still impressive

[simon]

congratulations Shurjotorun,keep it up, and save us from RazzaQ

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[idrinkh2O]

Congrats Sunny! A job well done

Presentations time:

Elias Sunny is but of course the Man of the Match. Just a reminder than Ashraful was also a debutant Man of the Match. "I enjoyed myself quite a lot on debut, I maintained the line and got the results."

[simon]

Ash

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[Banglaguy]

He already has better bowling figures in an innings than Rubel, Shafiul and Razzak