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Form is bull s. Ashrio should make it more realistic asap.
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December 3, 2009, 04:50 PM
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BTW, anyone looked up a bit into how the wages calculations are done or how to predict them yet? So far I can only predict wages for primaries in the dread-reas skills and it's getting me to a very close range.
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hey dude, I am interested to know. But I don't think its linear.
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December 3, 2009, 04:53 PM
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December 3, 2009, 04:55 PM
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December 3, 2009, 05:03 PM
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hey dude, I am interested to know. But I don't think its linear.
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On the contrary it's getting me to a very close range(about 60-80%). Well, I also think that my method is not complete yet but it is a start. So far from what I've seen, wages consist only of primaries, keeping, and then tech. From this I have used the linear method of increment as used in the ratings.
Primaries(bat/bowl): wage increases at an increment of 100
ex: dread-100, poor-200, ord-300, avg-400, reas-500
Tech: wage would be half of what the primary is, therefore increase increment of 50
ex: dread-50, poor-100, ord-150, avg-200, reas-250
keeping: this is where I had a little guess. I dont know whether to assume that it would be the same as tech or a little higher than tech. For now I assumed it to work the same as tech.
Now I know there is actually a spike after the reas skill. And i'm trying to contemplate a method to predict wages after these skills. So give this a try at your next youth pull and see if you're getting a close wage prediction.
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December 3, 2009, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tonoy
On the contrary it's getting me to a very close range(about 60-80%). Well, I also think that my method is not complete yet but it is a start. So far from what I've seen, wages consist only of primaries, keeping, and then tech. From this I have used the linear method of increment as used in the ratings.
Primaries(bat/bowl): wage increases at an increment of 100
ex: dread-100, poor-200, ord-300, avg-400, reas-500
Tech: wage would be half of what the primary is, therefore increase increment of 50
ex: dread-50, poor-100, ord-150, avg-200, reas-250
keeping: this is where I had a little guess. I dont know whether to assume that it would be the same as tech or a little higher than tech. For now I assumed it to work the same as tech.
Now I know there is actually a spike after the reas skill. And i'm trying to contemplate a method to predict wages after these skills. So give this a try at your next youth pull and see if you're getting a close wage prediction.
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I am trying to see legitimacy of ur method. But I don't agree it consists of only primary and tech. Secondaries may have less impact but they do have some impact. Experience has no impact.
1 key info is all dreadful (every skill dreadful) is $500.
My guess at initial stage bat, bowl, keep = 100.
all other 4 skills each 50. That makes the 500 perfectly fine!
After that wage increments exponentially (step wise) as skill increases.
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December 3, 2009, 05:29 PM
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I am trying to see legitimacy of ur method. But I don't agree it consists of only primary and tech. Secondaries may have less impact but they do have some impact. Experience has no impact.
1 key info is all dreadful (every skill dreadful) is $500.
My guess at initial stage bat, bowl, keep = 100.
all other 4 skills each 50. That makes the 500 perfectly fine!
After that wage increments exponentially (step wise) as skill increases.
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I really do believe that secondaries are not a factor for the wages. From what I've been gathering, it only consists of the four skills mentioned.
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December 3, 2009, 05:36 PM
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I really do believe that secondaries are not a factor for the wages. From what I've been gathering, it only consists of the four skills mentioned.
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you could be right! I am getting close to that! But y is all dreadful 500 then?
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December 3, 2009, 05:36 PM
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Bura, try going to the youth pull thread on the bd section at ftp. And apply the method I used on some to see if you get a close approximation. DO keep in mind that most of the pulls have a sublevel. so close approximation is the best we can do.
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December 3, 2009, 05:36 PM
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you could be right! I am getting close to that! But y is all dreadful 500 then?
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Again, I'm guessing it has something to do with sublevels.
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December 3, 2009, 05:38 PM
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Gotta go teach at the tutorial. Later
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December 3, 2009, 05:38 PM
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guys hav any of u guys tried out 4 spinners in a crumbling pitch yet??? becoz im gonna try it out
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December 3, 2009, 05:44 PM
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Gotta go teach at the tutorial. Later
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December 3, 2009, 05:52 PM
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Team Curry Chefs Talents Prodigy
Bats Right hand batsman Bowls Right arm Fast medium
Wage $3,624 Rating 28,799
Nationality Sri Lanka Sri Lanka Age 19
Form reasonable Fatigue revived
Experience dreadful Captaincy dreadful
Endurance average Training Bowling Technique
Batting poor Bowling expert
Technique capable Power dreadful
Keeping atrocious Fielding ordinary
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Just bought this player.
I know that is a ridiculous tech gap, but I'm hoping with prodigy, I can at least get him to expert/reliable, or close by end of year. His endurace is only average, but hes got ok fielding. Wage is nice, but obviously inflated by expert bowling. Regardless, I think hes a good prospect.
Especially for price I paid! ONLY 21k!!!
One question. Should I do bowling tech or batting tech?
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December 3, 2009, 05:52 PM
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reminder! You guys need to bid on them!
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December 3, 2009, 07:35 PM
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reminder! You guys need to bid on them!
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guys! follow b-r's lead and bid on my chaps. Hes a wise man!
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December 3, 2009, 07:36 PM
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Team Curry Chefs Talents Prodigy
Bats Right hand batsman Bowls Right arm Fast medium
Wage $3,624 Rating 28,799
Nationality Sri Lanka Sri Lanka Age 19
Form reasonable Fatigue revived
Experience dreadful Captaincy dreadful
Endurance average Training Bowling Technique
Batting poor Bowling expert
Technique capable Power dreadful
Keeping atrocious Fielding ordinary
Notes
Just bought this player.
I know that is a ridiculous tech gap, but I'm hoping with prodigy, I can at least get him to expert/reliable, or close by end of year. His endurace is only average, but hes got ok fielding. Wage is nice, but obviously inflated by expert bowling. Regardless, I think hes a good prospect.
Especially for price I paid! ONLY 21k!!!
One question. Should I do bowling tech or batting tech?
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bowling tech i would guess.. cause i doubt his batting will be very useful.. and even if he pops in bowling its helpful..
good buy though
so noone knows why is my player still stuck at average form??
so you mean that i should play an average formed player and get my MR lowered down and see him fail and still make him stay at average form?? how shi!t is that!!! like seriously, noone can have such form even after that performance.. if he had better form, he could have got games regularly, but not with this kind of form
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December 3, 2009, 07:42 PM
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so noone knows why is my player still stuck at average form??
so you mean that i should play an average formed player and get my MR lowered down and see him fail and still make him stay at average form?? how shi!t is that!!! like seriously, noone can have such form even after that performance.. if he had better form, he could have got games regularly, but not with this kind of form
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hey been there b4! I know how you feel! I remember season 5 and 6 pretty clearly. I guess nothing you can do other than see your player fail In your case they are actually performing... so why complain?
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December 3, 2009, 08:00 PM
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hey been there b4! I know how you feel! I remember season 5 and 6 pretty clearly. I guess nothing you can do other than see your player fail In your case they are actually performing... so why complain?
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well he is.. but his overall is low and making my MR drop.. plus, all those games were against pretty weak oppostions, except 2.. so he has a good chance of failing against good teams..
but my problem is not performance.. my problem is, even after doing that good, why is he in average form?? that just doesnt add up and make sense..
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December 3, 2009, 08:03 PM
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December 3, 2009, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashraf-FTP
well he is.. but his overall is low and making my MR drop.. plus, all those games were against pretty weak oppostions, except 2.. so he has a good chance of failing against good teams..
but my problem is not performance.. my problem is, even after doing that good, why is he in average form?? that just doesnt add up and make sense..
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may be he is just too good
Tell me why didn't this guy perform (never! except may be against bots)
Player Details
Team Bangla 11 Talents Swing
Bats Right hand batsman Bowls Right arm Medium
Wage $3,956 Rating 36,808
Nationality England Age 25
Form accomplished Fatigue revived
Experience average Captaincy reasonable
Endurance capable
Batting accomplished Bowling dreadful
Technique accomplished Power reasonable
Keeping dreadful Fielding average
I know you would say experience! But in many cases opponent's players were not that experienced either and players with lot worse experience and summary performed way better than him.
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December 3, 2009, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bura
may be he is just too good
Tell me why didn't this guy perform (never! except may be against bots)
Player Details
Team Bangla 11 Talents Swing
Bats Right hand batsman Bowls Right arm Medium
Wage $3,956 Rating 36,808
Nationality England Age 25
Form accomplished Fatigue revived
Experience average Captaincy reasonable
Endurance capable
Batting accomplished Bowling dreadful
Technique accomplished Power reasonable
Keeping dreadful Fielding average
I know you would say experience! But in many cases opponent's players were not that experienced either and players with lot worse experience and summary performed way better than him.
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experience not the problem here.. maybe in which position you play him at or maybe his orders (afgressive, normal or defensive).. did you try him at every position?? well maybe you will find a magic position for him..
it has happened to me.. i used to play my one and only oldie at #6 and he used to suck.. now that i have moved him at opening (tried #3-7 before), he performs pretty good and scores a 50 here and there..
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December 3, 2009, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashraf-FTP
experience not the problem here.. maybe in which position you play him at or maybe his orders (afgressive, normal or defensive).. did you try him at every position?? well maybe you will find a magic position for him..
it has happened to me.. i used to play my one and only oldie at #6 and he used to suck.. now that i have moved him at opening (tried #3-7 before), he performs pretty good and scores a 50 here and there..
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95% cases normal. I have tried every pos from 1-6. He is with me for 3 seasons. So I could test all the positions for enough time.
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December 3, 2009, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashraf-FTP
well he is.. but his overall is low and making my MR drop.. plus, all those games were against pretty weak oppostions, except 2.. so he has a good chance of failing against good teams..
but my problem is not performance.. my problem is, even after doing that good, why is he in average form?? that just doesnt add up and make sense..
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You do know that form has nothing to do with in game events? And that it is purely random.
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December 3, 2009, 09:34 PM
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On the contrary it's getting me to a very close range(about 60-80%). Well, I also think that my method is not complete yet but it is a start. So far from what I've seen, wages consist only of primaries, keeping, and then tech. From this I have used the linear method of increment as used in the ratings.
Primaries(bat/bowl): wage increases at an increment of 100
ex: dread-100, poor-200, ord-300, avg-400, reas-500
Tech: wage would be half of what the primary is, therefore increase increment of 50
ex: dread-50, poor-100, ord-150, avg-200, reas-250
keeping: this is where I had a little guess. I dont know whether to assume that it would be the same as tech or a little higher than tech. For now I assumed it to work the same as tech.
Now I know there is actually a spike after the reas skill. And i'm trying to contemplate a method to predict wages after these skills. So give this a try at your next youth pull and see if you're getting a close wage prediction.
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I haven't really looked at anything in calculating wages, just have a relatively good sense of what wages I expect from the primaries of players.
Wuold be interested to know. $500 wage is the lowest one can get to, so wages of just above $500 will be of more interest to see the cut-off.
To test whether endurance/power/fielding is a part of wages, just keep and train your last youth recruit on fitness, strength or fielding and see if his wage increases or not after the EOS update. I've never done it.
I would say technique adds more to the wage than keeping does, largely to the fact that keeping had its effect reduced in a later update.
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