facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Cricket > Cricket

Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old March 21, 2007, 04:31 PM
Imtiazk Imtiazk is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 9, 2006
Posts: 2,477
Default Run Rate Does Not Matter Anymore..

But only if Sri Lanka beats India. This is true even if Bangladesh loses to Bermuda since Bangladesh beat India.

Is that correct ?
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old March 21, 2007, 04:33 PM
Ehsan's Avatar
Ehsan Ehsan is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
 
Join Date: February 12, 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,279

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imtiazk
But only if Sri Lanka beats India. This is true even if Bangladesh loses to Bermuda since Bangladesh beat India.

Is that correct ?
NO. Bangladesh has to beat Bermuda and Srilanka has to beat India then and then only it will hold true.
__________________
::::::::¤ E h S a n ¤::::::::
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 21, 2007, 04:38 PM
Imtiazk Imtiazk is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 9, 2006
Posts: 2,477

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ehsan
NO. Bangladesh has to beat Bermuda and Srilanka has to beat India then and then only it will hold true.
Not according to Sky Sports. Apparently result against each other count ahead of NRR. NRR only apply when 3 sides are involved.

I wasn't aware of this myself.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 21, 2007, 04:43 PM
Hatebreed's Avatar
Hatebreed Hatebreed is offline
BC T-Shirt Design Winner
 
Join Date: June 19, 2005
Location: Camden, London
Favorite Player: Mashrafe Mortaza
Posts: 7,199

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imtiazk
Not according to Sky Sports. Apparently result against each other count ahead of NRR. NRR only apply when 3 sides are involved.

I wasn't aware of this myself.
Any example scenario?
__________________
My photography
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 21, 2007, 04:53 PM
Imtiazk Imtiazk is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 9, 2006
Posts: 2,477

Sorry, let me correct myself. Bangladesh has to beat Bermuda [ if SL beats India ] , otherwise all 3 countries will have 2 points each and then India will go through.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 21, 2007, 04:54 PM
exotic exotic is offline
First Class Cricketer
 
Join Date: March 1, 2006
Location: Essex, UK
Favorite Player: Michael Jordan
Posts: 447

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imtiazk
Not according to Sky Sports. Apparently result against each other count ahead of NRR. NRR only apply when 3 sides are involved.

I wasn't aware of this myself.
In that case, we are again talking about 3 teams involved. With your scenario, SL wins 3 game and Bangladesh, IND and Bermuda each winning 1 game, then NRR comes into play!!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 21, 2007, 05:12 PM
Rubu's Avatar
Rubu Rubu is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: February 15, 2004
Location: Michigan
Favorite Player: Mashrafee Mortaza
Posts: 8,361

http://www.banglacricket.com/alochon...ad.php?t=19600

Now RR matters the most. If we loose to Bermuda, there is no way. Head to head does not count for a penny here. Its all RR.
__________________
সন্মানজনক পরাজয়ের চিন্তাটাই অসন্মানজনক
- The days of playing for honorable defeat is over.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 21, 2007, 05:15 PM
Rubu's Avatar
Rubu Rubu is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: February 15, 2004
Location: Michigan
Favorite Player: Mashrafee Mortaza
Posts: 8,361

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imtiazk
Not according to Sky Sports. Apparently result against each other count ahead of NRR. NRR only apply when 3 sides are involved.

I wasn't aware of this myself.
Look at the whole bunch of articles in CI about India's chances to go thru. No one mentioned head to head for once. Different tournaments has different rules. Like our club cricket, head to head counts ahead of NRR. But, not in here.
__________________
সন্মানজনক পরাজয়ের চিন্তাটাই অসন্মানজনক
- The days of playing for honorable defeat is over.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old March 21, 2007, 05:19 PM
amethyst's Avatar
amethyst amethyst is offline
First Class Cricketer
 
Join Date: March 2, 2007
Favorite Player: Mashrafe Bin Mortaza
Posts: 279

so if SL beat India, and BD beat Bermuda by a close margin, will we still go to the next round? im confused...
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old March 21, 2007, 05:25 PM
Don's Avatar
Don Don is offline
Club Cricketer
 
Join Date: March 21, 2007
Posts: 167

Quote:
Originally Posted by amethyst
so if SL beat India, and BD beat Bermuda by a close margin, will we still go to the next round? im confused...
Amethyst why dont u take some rest instead? You are not only confused but confusing others too ...Anyway dont be mad at me, just kidding :p
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old March 21, 2007, 05:30 PM
oporajeyo_bangla's Avatar
oporajeyo_bangla oporajeyo_bangla is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: August 12, 2006
Location: Boston, USA
Posts: 710

Quote:
Originally Posted by amethyst
so if SL beat India, and BD beat Bermuda by a close margin, will we still go to the next round? im confused...
if SL beats india, and we beat bermuda (regardless of margin of victory), we'll go through. SL will have 6 points, we'll have 4 points, and india will have 2 points.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old March 21, 2007, 05:36 PM
SMHasan's Avatar
SMHasan SMHasan is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: June 20, 2005
Location: Dhaka
Posts: 3,061

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imtiazk
Not according to Sky Sports. Apparently result against each other count ahead of NRR. NRR only apply when 3 sides are involved.

I wasn't aware of this myself.
I heard it as well. Even if we are beaten by Bermuda still we will qualify although I don't think we will loose to them.
__________________

ওইখানে আমিও আছি /যেইখানে সূর্য উদয়/প্রিয়দেশ পাল্টে দেবো/তুমি আর আমি বোধহয়/কমরেড, তৈরি থেকো/গায়ে মাখো আলতা বরণ/আমি তুমি আমি তুমি/এভাবেই লক্ষ চরণ
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old March 21, 2007, 05:38 PM
inspyr9 inspyr9 is offline
First Class Cricketer
 
Join Date: February 23, 2004
Location: Stevenson Ranch, CA
Favorite Player: Mash, mushy
Posts: 430

we can still go 2nd round if ind beats sl and we beat bermuda but amader oitaite hobe onek
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old March 21, 2007, 05:38 PM
inspyr9 inspyr9 is offline
First Class Cricketer
 
Join Date: February 23, 2004
Location: Stevenson Ranch, CA
Favorite Player: Mash, mushy
Posts: 430

sorry pataite
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old March 21, 2007, 05:39 PM
amethyst's Avatar
amethyst amethyst is offline
First Class Cricketer
 
Join Date: March 2, 2007
Favorite Player: Mashrafe Bin Mortaza
Posts: 279

@Don: go take a nap. you know you want it :P

@oporajeyo_Bangla: thank you for clarifying.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old March 21, 2007, 07:23 PM
Protic's Avatar
Protic Protic is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: November 14, 2006
Location: BCB-office
Favorite Player: Shahriar Nafees
Posts: 1,934

If SL beats India and BD beats Bermuda by 1 run.. we EASILY go through considering the fact we won 2 matches out of 3 and India won 1 ( only against Bermuda ) loosing to us and SL..and Bermuda lost all 3!
But its unlikely.. India will beat SL SOMEHOW..maybe even buy the ICC < lol..dravid becomes the CEO of ICC..and tada!!
Whatever..im an optimist..but now.. even i know..we are out of the worldcup.
Atleast we defeated India.
__________________
Tip : Shahriar Nafees should start seeing every team as Australia and treat every bowler as Shane Warne - Myself.
Banglaforum.com!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old March 21, 2007, 08:09 PM
tonoy's Avatar
tonoy tonoy is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: February 25, 2007
Location: Canada
Favorite Player: Shakib Al Hasan
Posts: 8,684

lets hope sl beats india so we dont have to calculate anything. I would love to see our play more cricket.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old March 21, 2007, 08:56 PM
BangladeshCricket BangladeshCricket is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: October 1, 2003
Posts: 1,033

if IND wins we are packing our bags. period.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old March 21, 2007, 09:04 PM
SMHasan's Avatar
SMHasan SMHasan is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: June 20, 2005
Location: Dhaka
Posts: 3,061

Seems things are pretty bad for us. We can't do much but praying

What Bangladesh and India need to do to get into the Super 8
A must-win game for India
S Rajesh and Dileep V
March 21, 2007




Sri Lanka's 198-run win against Bangladesh has ensured them a place in the Super 8, while it has made things relatively simpler for India too - all they need to do is to win their last league match. Against a marauding Sri Lankan side, though, Rahul Dravid and co. will have their hands full.
The good news for India, however, is that Sri Lanka's margin of victory today means that for Bangladesh to make it to the Super Eight, Sri Lanka must beat India. (A washout will do nicely too, but with a reserve day in hand, it's unlikely that a decisive result won't be reached.) As the points table shows, Bangladesh have a net run rate of -2.002. Regardless of the margin by which they beat Bermuda (if they lose to Bermuda, they're surely out of the tournament), their NRR won't improve enough to go beyond India's 2.51. Here are a couple of scenarios from each of the two matches remaining in the group which explain why.
India versus Sri Lanka
Scenario 1 Sri Lanka bat first, score 260, and India win with one over to spare
Sri Lanka's NRR will drop from 4.59 to 2.99, while India's will drop marginally to 1.72.
Scenario 2 India bat first, score 265, and win by 2 runs
Sri Lanka's NRR will be 2.98, while India's will be 1.69.
For Bangladesh to then make it to the Super 8, they'll need to go past India's NRR. However, as the two scenarios below show, the gap between the two NRRs is just too large.
Bangladesh versus Bermuda
Scenario 1 Bangladesh score 300, and restrict Bermuda to 120 to win by 180 runs
Despite the huge margin of victory, Bangladesh's NRR will only improve to -0.08.
Scenario 2 Bermuda are bundled out for 120, and Bangladesh wipe off the target in 15 overs
In this case, due to the fact that Bangladesh will only bat 15 overs, their NRR will only increase to -0.7.
In either case, Bangladesh's NRR will be well below India's which means the only chance for them to get into the Super 8 is if Sri Lanka get past India. Given Sri Lanka's awesome form in their two matchs so far, though, it will need a brave man to bet against that happening.
__________________

ওইখানে আমিও আছি /যেইখানে সূর্য উদয়/প্রিয়দেশ পাল্টে দেবো/তুমি আর আমি বোধহয়/কমরেড, তৈরি থেকো/গায়ে মাখো আলতা বরণ/আমি তুমি আমি তুমি/এভাবেই লক্ষ চরণ
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:37 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket