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January 20, 2005, 11:23 AM
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+ves from 1st ODI
We lost but there are some positives ... I actually switch off the video after Ash's out and had to follow Chacha and Taposh's heroic in slow cricinfo. I think except the last over Chacha did pretty well and Tapsoh as always gave 100% effort. Wish Nafees, Ash and others will have a talk with Taposh (instead of Dravid, Sachin, Dada) to know how to give 100%. Rajin's batting was another positive and did not see him in such commanding form.
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January 20, 2005, 11:25 AM
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these positives mean nothing when ur going in there as the favorites, and come out with your head hung low.
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January 20, 2005, 11:30 AM
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Someone posted the bowling figures for BD bowlers and i see that Alok, with 40 runs in 10 overs has bowled much better than the rest of the pack.
In fact, it is quite an economical figure for an ODI in which the opposition scores 250+.
I fail to understand all the "drop Alok" chants. It seems he had a worthwhile contribution with the ball, and failed with the bat.
I didn't follow the game so am i asking you, did i miss something?
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January 20, 2005, 11:33 AM
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Fielding was great! Feel we saved 20 runs minimum. Bowling was fairly decent. But Rafique and Mashrafee should plug in the hole in the team.
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January 20, 2005, 11:40 AM
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Rajin's batting as opener is the most important positive thing we've got from this match (even though he threw his wicket away)
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January 20, 2005, 11:51 AM
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Alok needs to score decent consistent innings of 30s. Then we can keep him
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January 20, 2005, 11:58 AM
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Alok is in the team as a batsman not a bowler..... So if he wants to stay he should score some runs.....
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January 20, 2005, 12:10 PM
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Does any one know why Chigumbura was removed from the bowling attack on 48th over? I could not follow last part of BD batting as I had to goto work in the morning (in USA it was morning when BD was batting)...
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January 20, 2005, 12:13 PM
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Positives:
1. Rajin's Batting
2. ChaCha's batting
3. Over All Tapash's performance
4. Alok is fit to bowl again
Negatives:
1. Selection of Alok
2. No improvement in Aftab's batting performance
3. Unable to excelerate run rate with 1s & 2s, when needed.
4. Throwing away wicket by BD batsman when they settle down.
5. Bowling rotation
6. Team selection
Other posible positive:
1. If the selectors start learning from their mistakes in this game.
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January 20, 2005, 12:19 PM
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Lets hope bangladesh improve in the next match . The top order batsman really need to play well
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January 20, 2005, 12:19 PM
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Aftab should be replaced for 2nd ODI.. Mashrafee/Rafique can easily replaced Aftab. They are both "all rounder" for ODI. Aftab is a burden for the team at this moment. I dont see much need for Alok either... We have to win the ODI series..So no chance for experiments !!!!!... Selectors: are you listening?????
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January 20, 2005, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DJ Sahastra
Someone posted the bowling figures for BD bowlers and i see that Alok, with 40 runs in 10 overs has bowled much better than the rest of the pack.
In fact, it is quite an economical figure for an ODI in which the opposition scores 250+.
I fail to understand all the "drop Alok" chants. It seems he had a worthwhile contribution with the ball, and failed with the bat.
I didn't follow the game so am i asking you, did i miss something?
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Yes u r right.. alok bowled much better and tighter than the Genuin Bowlers... and frankly speaking, I was impressed!
but actually, the reason he is looking better is that the 'Genuin bowlers' failed to do their job.. and bowled wayward! Alok's selection was more based on his ability as a 'Strokeplaying Batsmen' and he totally failed to do that.
But he was actually selected back in the team coz he scored a numeber of 70+ scores in the very recently finished domestic league... so he was taken to be back in form... which he showed, atleast in this match, that he isnt!
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January 20, 2005, 01:19 PM
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many ppl score 70+ innings in domestic matches...IMO, unless it isn't a story of utter domination, those ppl should not be considered in the national team.
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January 20, 2005, 01:24 PM
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Chigumbura bowled two short balls in that over... Bowler in odi r allowed to ball only one so umps removed him...
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January 20, 2005, 01:31 PM
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IMHO, I think we could have still won had it not been for the unfortunate run out of Shujon.
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January 20, 2005, 02:19 PM
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Did anyone see Nazmul's runout? It was hilarious.
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January 20, 2005, 03:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DJ Sahastra
Someone posted the bowling figures for BD bowlers and i see that Alok, with 40 runs in 10 overs has bowled much better than the rest of the pack.
In fact, it is quite an economical figure for an ODI in which the opposition scores 250+.
I fail to understand all the "drop Alok" chants. It seems he had a worthwhile contribution with the ball, and failed with the bat.
I didn't follow the game so am i asking you, did i miss something?
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Look, when Rana does well with bat, then people comment that he is supposed to do better with ball, because thats his job. IN case of Alok, the same should apply. He is in the team as a batsman, so he should perform in batting, a bowling performance does not really help anything..
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January 20, 2005, 03:57 PM
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Rana sux, there's no doubt about it. We may not need Alok in the team, but why do we must have Rana?
Alok did fairly well with ball, and he got only one chance with bat after his comeback in International Cricket. Why not give him one or couple more chances?
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January 20, 2005, 03:58 PM
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and would you care to back your statement about rana up with some logical argument?
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January 20, 2005, 04:02 PM
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Rana usually doesn't do very well with ball unless Rafique keeps the pressure on.
And with bat, how many times he have made significant impact on our score? I don't remember more than one occasion when he opened at last ODI of Zimbabwe tour.
Alok when he was at his best, he showed that he's capable of doing far better than Rana with bat. And if he can bowl like today in more matches, why we should ever consider Rana instead of him?
Edited on, January 20, 2005, 9:05 PM GMT, by Spitfire_x86.
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January 20, 2005, 04:04 PM
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Rana is the spinner (and left handed) version of Mushfique. His fading away will be just matter of time.
He's already proved useless in test. Now it's time for him to make place for others in ODI.
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January 20, 2005, 04:09 PM
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rana never got as many opporutnities as alok. if you want performance, you have to give the guy a chance to play regularly. he was thrown out and brought back in on numerous occassions. the positives you mentioned about alok apply to what he WAS, and not what he IS NOW.
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January 20, 2005, 04:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by akabir77
Chigumbura bowled two short balls in that over... Bowler in odi r allowed to ball only one so umps removed him...
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Giving two short balls will not make an umpire remove the bowler. He will just give No balls for the extra bouncers. The bowler gave 2 beamers to the batsmen. That was the reason.
Source: Bangladesherkhela.com
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January 20, 2005, 04:15 PM
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Some stats
Rana:
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TESTS
(including 17/12/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 6 11 1 257 69 25.70 37.13 0 1 3 0
O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 124.5 19 401 5 80.20 3-84 0 0 149.8 3.21
ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 07/11/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 14 14 4 247 63 24.70 47.13 0 1 1 0
O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 92.1 7 370 9 41.11 3-21 0 0 61.4 4.01
Alok:
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TESTS
(including 26/10/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 16 32 1 559 85 18.03 48.23 0 2 5 0
O M R W Ave BBI 5 10 SR Econ
Bowling 180.5 15 697 6 116.16 3-3 0 0 180.8 3.85
ONE-DAY INTERNATIONALS
(including 07/11/2004)
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
Batting & Fielding 43 42 2 814 89* 20.35 65.32 0 4 17 0
O M R W Ave BBI 4w 5w SR Econ
Bowling 132.3 6 663 11 60.27 2-40 0 0 72.2 5.00
alok kon dike ranar cheye better? bujhlam na
who do you prefer - a highly talented batsman who can't perform in the field or a hard working, class less bloke whose average is better than most accomplished batsmen (and almost as good as some of the better bowlers) in the side?
to me, class has no meaning if it is not backed up by performance
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January 20, 2005, 04:16 PM
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btw: source - cricinfo
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