Was Mashrafee Bribed?

Rubu · #1 August 2, 2006, 11:16 AM

I cannot find any other reason for him constantly bowling full toss in final over and bowling wide.

specially on the final bowl, when he knows for sure that the batsman will go for a six, there is no way he can bowl like that, unless.......

unless, he has been bribed.

akabir77 · #2 August 2, 2006, 11:19 AM

or may be he was trying to bowl in the block hole

Fazal · #3 August 2, 2006, 11:20 AM

Why? Why are you guys so upset? Isn't that the whole strategy by the team management? To make sure we loose a respectable loss by selecting some old junk players?

This team (the current ODI 3 team) is not capable to score beound 220-230s. This is well known. What do you expect? The bowler will always save our rear?

Orpheus · #4 August 2, 2006, 11:21 AM

I think he was... He was given 2 million Zimbabwean dollars.. he thought he was rich. Little did he know that he can only buy a popsicle with that.

Tigers_eye · #5 August 2, 2006, 11:21 AM

In the first game also he was expensive at the end and we lost. May be we need to find another closer soon. Let him finish his quota well before 40 overs.

Mr-Cricket · #6 August 2, 2006, 11:23 AM

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Was Mashrafee Bribed?

That thought did briefly cross my mind.

But then I came to my senses.

Mash is genuinely that bad.

Rubu · #7 August 2, 2006, 11:23 AM

trust me, its not being upset. I'm questioning for real. read my post, I am actually trying to use logic. I simply fail to see any.

If he trys to bowl block hole, he would succeed 3 out of 6 times. he is a bowler of that caribre (actually better). he is not the type of bowler whos block whole will turn to full toss every single time.

I'm series: He has been bribed.

istiak · #8 August 2, 2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus
I think he was... He was given 2 million Zimbabwean dollars.. he thought he was rich. Little did he know that he can only buy a popsicle with that.

lol ! I think u r right because if he could calculate it he would bowl better.

sadi · #9 August 2, 2006, 11:24 AM

Rubu, you joking right? I mean we are all upset but please stop opening this unnecessary thread.

Rubu · #10 August 2, 2006, 11:26 AM

Sadi, seriously, I'm not joking. I was upset an hour and 10 minutes ago. Now I'm just mad. Either he was completely out of his damn mind, or he was bribed. No way usual mashrafee can bowl like that.

cricket_pagol · #11 August 2, 2006, 11:27 AM

Except Australia, all big teams have lost matches from a winning position. Some teams like west indies do it more often then others. I guess bangladesh was not in this league before because we rarely got yourselves into winning position.

I hope the players learn from this experience.

cricket_pagol · #12 August 2, 2006, 11:30 AM

this is a bangladeshi trait, when we see something unexpected happen in a game, we immediately blame the umpire and the players for taking a bribe. It's hard to come out of our inherent traits.

Orpheus · #13 August 2, 2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by istiak
lol ! I think u r right because if he could calculate it he would bowl better.

haha..nice play of words..

sadi · #14 August 2, 2006, 11:32 AM

He just choked.

HawkEye000 · #15 August 2, 2006, 11:37 AM

Cmon guys give Mash a break, he just made a major change in his action (from a mix of side-on and front-on to complete side-on). He is just getting used to to his new action and lacks a bit of the precision needed to bowl in the block hole. That was one of the main reason Stuart Karpinnen allowed him to play in the test matches but not the ODIs. Give him some time, he will get used to his new action and would surely start to bowl well in the death overs.

Mr-Cricket · #16 August 2, 2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rubu
Sadi, seriously, I'm not joking. I was upset an hour and 10 minutes ago. Now I'm just mad. Either he was completely out of his damn mind, or he was bribed. No way usual mashrafee can bowl like that.

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Originally Posted by sadi
He just choked.

Sadi just hit the nail on the head. This is actually becoming a habit for Mash.

He got hit for 60+ runs off his last 4 overs in the following game.

This was after he was 10/2 off his first 6.

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2...25FEB2006.html

Mr-Cricket · #17 August 2, 2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HawkEye000
Cmon guys give Mash a break, he just made a major change in his action (from a mix of side-on and front-on to complete side-on). He is just getting used to to his new action and lacks a bit of the precision needed to bowl in the block hole. That was one of the main reason Stuart Karpinnen allowed him to play in the test matches but not the ODIs. Give him some time, he will get used to his new action and would surely start to bowl well in the death overs.

Sorry to be blunt, mate, but thats just crap.

ilz · #18 August 2, 2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Orpheus
I think he was... He was given 2 million Zimbabwean dollars.. he thought he was rich. Little did he know that he can only buy a popsicle with that.

hahahahaha. no comment!

Beamer · #19 August 2, 2006, 11:46 AM

Things like this can happen any time in cricket. Murali got belted in England in one of the games. Instead, give the due to Taylor who totally deserves it.

HawkEye000 · #20 August 2, 2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr-Cricket
Sorry to be blunt, mate, but thats just crap.

If you have the slightest idea about bowling, you shouldn't be saying that.

Mr-Cricket · #21 August 2, 2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HawkEye000
If you have the slightest idea about bowling, you shouldn't be saying that.

Wow! The attitude! It's too much!

"If you had the slightest idea about 'Mash's ongoing problems in bowling at the death', you wouldn't be saying that."

And FYI, I do play the game, mind you.

fwullah · #22 August 2, 2006, 11:59 AM

"Cmon guys give Mash a break, he just made a major change in his action (from a mix of side-on and front-on to complete side-on). He is just getting used to to his new action and lacks a bit of the precision needed to bowl in the block hole. That was one of the main reason Stuart Karpinnen allowed him to play in the test matches but not the ODIs. Give him some time, he will get used to his new action and would surely start to bowl well in the death overs."

- Change of bowling action caused a certain fast bowler like Hasibul Hussain to lose his place in the National Team. I have a feeling that it is the end of Mashrafee Bin Murtoza's International Career.

To be truthful, Mashrafee never had the nerves to bowl at the depth, he also doesn't have the experience like Tapash Baisya in the domestic cricket to learn to bowl at the depth curving the nerves. There may also have been a touch of 'jealosy' in Mashrafee to try to bowl yorkers like Shahadat - after all, Mashrafee has been here a long time and yet he had never taken a hat-trick, whereas Shahadat has just entered the big league and he's already a big hero now - especially after the hat-trick.

HawkEye000 · #23 August 2, 2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr-Cricket
Wow! The attitude! It's too much!

"If you had the slightest idea about 'Mash's ongoing problems in bowling at the death', you wouldn't be saying that."

And FYI, I do play the game, mind you.

it's even sadder that you dont realize , may be u dont bowl at a decent pace or you never had to change your action due to injury

The thing is it takes time to get used to a new action. The margin of error in the slog overs is very small. It is lot easier in the initial overs where you can just pitch short of a good length outside of the off stump. But bowling in the block hole requires a whole lot control and precision. Have faith in the lad, he would be as as good as he is in the initial overs in about a years time.

HawkEye000 · #24 August 2, 2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fwullah
To be truthful, Mashrafee never had the nerves to bowl at the depth, he also doesn't have the experience like Tapash Baisya in the domestic cricket to learn to bowl at the depth curving the nerves.

Agree with you to some extent, but he wasn't this bad either. But you gotta agree that the more he gets used to his new action, the more control he would have with his yorkers. Just a few months have passed since he had that major change in his action. So it would be better if we be less critical of him. Nobody is talking about Javed Omar and co and the way they let us down by not able to score over 250 in any of the 3 ODIs.

Imtiaz · #25 August 2, 2006, 12:15 PM

This is an unfortunate thing to say. But, sadly, I am not surprised that many of us will say that.

Bowling , full tosses at the death is actually regularly practised. Since, "good length" balls are easier to "get under" and the batsman gets a good purchase. In fact, Tapash also regularly bowled full tosses at the death.

I have not seen the match , so really can't comment like many of you. But a more fair criticism would be why didn't he and Shahadat, in the previous over, mix the balls up e.g. slower delivery etc. Aftab was bowled to one.

It is sad that a series which we should have won 5 - 0, we might even not win. We really haven't had a bad match yet but are 2-1 down !!