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Old February 28, 2011, 05:18 PM
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Default WI players to watch out for - weakness and strength analysis

I am sure our support staff do what is necessary to analyze each and every player of all teams that we play and share with our players so they exploit their weaknesses. But just incase nothing gets missed, I think it will be a great idea to add fact based analysis by BC members or by anyone on the web, on players to watch out for of our opponents. I know there’s no way to verify whether others views that we read or heard are factual or not, but at least we can compare with our own and make a judgment call.

I know 2 of our 3 coaches visit BC on a regular basis and I’m sure few players may be lurking around as well. So why not share our analysis, not what we think rather what we observed or read (with sources), to help our support staff. So let’s play the support staff of our national team’s support staff, if you will, and help them out.


I think we can start a thread like this one before every match, just like we talk strategies before every match. If I had the time I would try to analyze all danger-men of WI, such as Gayle, Sammy, Sarwan and Roach but since I don’t, so I will just start of with what I read on Pollard and let you all share your thoughts on the rest.


Here’s what someone had to say about Pollard on CricInfo………………

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Echoing what NCassie has said, I'll say that it is far too easy to dismiss Pollard as someone who lack's patience or a "slogger" and the above article, while it reads well, reflects a lack of appreciation for the arc of Pollard's career. Anyone following his first class career from the start can attest to a few certainties. Pollard is most vulnerable to straight, fast deliveries early in his innings. He hits the ball cleanly and powerfully, and his confidence grows with each blow. Often overlooked though is his placement and ti and timing. He's penalized for being able to hit the ball further than most. Early on, he hits in the V as young batsmen are taught, he just hits it further than prescribed. When KP is on the go, the number of fielders in the circle are irrelevant. So it makes sense to deploy him at 5 or 6, with time to get settled before the best bowlers return near the end. The only thing more dangerous that KP coming in with 5 overs left is KP BEING in with 5 overs left.



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Old February 28, 2011, 05:31 PM
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Dismissals Graph/ Weakness


Christopher H Gayle


Chanderpaul


Darren M Bravo


Sarwan


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Old February 28, 2011, 05:34 PM
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Whose graph is this amar?
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Whose graph is this amar?
Sorry forgot to include the names before, Its should be fixed now.
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Old February 28, 2011, 05:38 PM
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Bravo and Pollard are just glorified Sluggers. Pretty easy to get them out with Saiful's slower pace ball. After watching the Neth. games I doubt these two can clear SNBS when the pace is off the fast balls.
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Old February 28, 2011, 05:45 PM
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Batsmen to look out for are Gayle, Darren Bravo and Pollard. Bowlers to play close attention to is Roach, he has to be handled carefully.
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Old February 28, 2011, 05:50 PM
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Bravo and Pollard are just glorified Sluggers. Pretty easy to get them out with Saiful's slower pace ball. After watching the Neth. games I doubt these two can clear SNBS when the pace is off the fast balls.
I haven't seen Pollard, so I really cannot say anything about him. One thing that's true for all sluggers, I can vouch for all the sluggers out there being one my self, that pace of the ball is the key. Since timing isn't one of fortes of a slugger, once the pace and bounce is taken off the ball it is be very difficult to hit. So I doubt if he'd be succesful in our conditions.
The players that may be very hard to get out are; Sarwan and Chanderpaul. Our spiners have to be at their best to get this two out. For Chanderoaul, I would totally try to utilize Shafiul's inswinging yorkers (to a lefty) which can be very deadly when he just comes in to bat. Sammy could also turn out to be more than a handful but I think Shak can take care of him.
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Old February 28, 2011, 05:51 PM
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Batsmen to look out for are Gayle, Darren Bravo and Pollard. Bowlers to play close attention to is Roach, he has to be handled carefully.
Isn't Bravo injured or has he been cleared to play against us?
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Isn't Bravo injured or has he been cleared to play against us?
Dwayne Bravo the brother of Darren Bravo is out of the tournament.
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Isn't Bravo injured or has he been cleared to play against us?
It's Darren Bravo, Dwayne Bravo's half brother.

If you haven't seen Pollard, search him on youtube. He is a treat to watch. Hope we won't be on the receiving end this Friday.

He struggles against straight deliveries as he tries to play across the line. We have a chance to get him out early in his innings by bowling straight to him with some pace.
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Suleman Ben can also slog.
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Suleman Ben can also slog.
He is a better singer than a slogger.
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Bravo and Pollard are just glorified Sluggers. Pretty easy to get them out with Saiful's slower pace ball. After watching the Neth. games I doubt these two can clear SNBS when the pace is off the fast balls.
Bravo's average is almost 41. No. He cannot be called a slugger.
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Here is KP against Western Australia...

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Pollard seems very good on flat pitch. If we make a low/turning wicket, he is not a threat IMO.
Shafiul /our bowlers has to keep his line and length accurate and KP is doomed!
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Pollard seems very good on flat pitch. If we make a low/turning wicket, he is not a threat IMO.
Shafiul /our bowlers has to keep his line and length accurate and KP is doomed!
the question is will they make wicket like that...siddons said last game wicket was not turning!!! but I saw Shakib getting turns though...not sure who is right!
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He struggles against straight deliveries as he tries to play across the line. We have a chance to get him out early in his innings by bowling straight to him with some pace.
Indeed Sovik bhai. Bowling straight and keeping the ball low is the key to get him out.

If Razzak bowls like he did against India and Ireland, Pollard will kill him infront of millions of Bangladeshi on the 4th March!!!
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the question is will they make wicket like that...siddons said last game wicket was not turning!!! but

I saw Shakib getting turns though...not sure who is right!
Well, Naeem said in an interview earlier that the pitch was dry, thus, was a flat batting pitch. For turning wicket the pitch has to be a bit soft and moist per Naeem.

WI match is the biggest match in the WC for us, thus, BCB should make the pitch a turning one.


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Bravo's average is almost 41. No. He cannot be called a slugger.
Average falls to 32.71 against top 8 teams. Also played to few innings to make a conclusion about him, but from highlights he almost always gets out hitting sixes.
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Well, Naeem said in an interview earlier that the pitch was dry, thus, was a flat batting pitch. For turning wicket the pitch has to be a bit moist/wet.


WI match is the biggest match in the WC for us, thus, BCB should make the pitch a turning one.
I dont get it. Why would the ball turn if there is moist in the pitch. Wetness is spins enemy.
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Well, Naeem said in an interview earlier that the pitch was dry, thus, was a flat batting pitch. For turning wicket the pitch has to be a bit moist/wet.

WI match is the biggest match in the WC for us, thus, BCB should make the pitch a turning one.


Great thread betaar bhai
I don't know what BCB is doing...this is a very imp match...i hope they know that we depended on the bowling and fielding...if it was a flat batting pitch why our batsmen failed...I guess it is a dumb question about our superstar batsmen
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Darren Bravo is an amazing talent and has a wonderful eye and plays spinners really well judging by the way he dealt with the Sri Lankan spinners on their recent tour. He is one to fear and its only a matter of time he converts his starts into longer innings which can be destructive for us at his high strike rate
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Darren Bravo is an amazing talent and has a wonderful eye and plays spinners really well judging by the way he dealt with the Sri Lankan spinners on their recent tour. He is one to fear and its only a matter of time he converts his starts into longer innings which can be destructive for us at his high strike rate
Well isn't even SL pitches are considered more sporty than some of the Mirpur pitches (bar the ones India would be brave enough to play of course)?
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Here is KP against Western Australia...
Yes KP vai, kp is a ruthless.. heartless... cruel monster

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