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Old October 24, 2016, 12:50 AM
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Post Pick your squad for 2nd Test against England!!!!

Bloody selections ruined this game. Let's go with a strong squad for once please.
My squad for the next game:

1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Mahmudullah (Captain) (Left Right combination here please)
4) Mominul
5) Mushfique
6) Shakib
7) Shabbir
8) Soumya (Left Right hand combo here as well)
9) Miraz
10) Rubel (Where the hell is this guy???? something is fishy)
11) Jubair

Solid batting unit with Soumya at number 9. Rubel and Jubair are better than Shafiul and Kamrul any day.

With Rubel we finally have a bowler who can take wickets with the old ball as well.
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Old October 24, 2016, 12:55 AM
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Shabbir ke neowa thik hobe na. Test pare na.

Riyad won't be the captain. He did jack all in test cricket. Need to secure his place first.

Jubair won't replace Taijul either. Attitude what's matter and atm Jubair failing in that...
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Old October 24, 2016, 12:57 AM
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Mushy has his best day as a captain and you want to replace him?

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Old October 24, 2016, 12:58 AM
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@tanvir As much as I am a fan of Soumya... I dont think we will have the right balance if we slot him at no 8. We need an all rounder and Nasir fits the job pretty well with his wicket to wicket bowling and the tendency to break partnerships.
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Old October 24, 2016, 12:59 AM
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Bloody selections ruined this game. Let's go with a strong squad for once please.
My squad for the next game:

1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Mahmudullah (Captain) (Left Right combination here please)
4) Mominul
5) Mushfique
6) Shakib
7) Shabbir
8) Soumya (Left Right hand combo here as well)
9) Miraz
10) Rubel (Where the hell is this guy???? something is fishy)
11) Jubair

Solid batting unit with Soumya at number 9. Rubel and Jubair are better than Shafiul and Kamrul any day.

With Rubel we finally have a bowler who can take wickets with the old ball as well.
Check out rubel's stats in test cricket..among our fast bowlers he has played the most number of tests and has the worst stats..he was selected over and over again for his pace hoping he will come good but it didn't happen
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:00 AM
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It should be as follows:

1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Mahmudullah
4) Mominul
5) Mushfique
6) Shakib
7) Shabbir
8) Soumya / Mosaddek
9) Miraz
10) Taijul
11) Rubel
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:02 AM
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Since 2015, Rubel has been a much better bowler under Streak. We have to use him with the old ball. Mash used him as a strike bowler regularly and he delivered and he needs to be used in short aggressive bursts in test. Even if he doesn't get wickets he can send down some nasty bouncers and soften them up for the other end.
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:06 AM
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we dont need 2 useless pacer unless we make a pacer friendly pitch. we don't need 5 genuine bowler because sabbir / Mominul / Riyadh all are handy to give some break for our genuine bowlers .
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:09 AM
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Bloody selections ruined this game. Let's go with a strong squad for once please.
My squad for the next game:

1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Mahmudullah (Captain) (Left Right combination here please)
4) Mominul
5) Mushfique
6) Shakib
7) Shabbir
8) Soumya (Left Right hand combo here as well)
9) Miraz
10) Rubel (Where the hell is this guy???? something is fishy)
11) Jubair

Solid batting unit with Soumya at number 9. Rubel and Jubair are better than Shafiul and Kamrul any day.

With Rubel we finally have a bowler who can take wickets with the old ball as well.
Sorry mate, you've lost me. Only explanation for this is a broken heart. We're all hurting bro, but you can't chop and change like that. It's lunacy.

Musfique is captain. Period. Changing captain midway in series is perhaps most destabilizing thing you can do. He did ok as captain, and such a change would undoubtedly affect his batting, which is exemplary atm.

I thought Kamrul improved as the match progressed. But agree he is not the long term future for Bangladesh... Shafiul is a waste of space.

Issue is we need more batting depth. We need a seam bowling all-rounder. Soumya is not the answer-gentle medium pace not going to cut it.

Anyone knows a good bowling allrounder who can tie up and end?
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:10 AM
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Liton will find it difficult to play now after Shabbir'S performance. Litton average 32 in test and last time we played a test, he got a fifty vs SA.

Good competition.

NB: hope he is fit for the NZ series. Need a back up keeper also to put pressure on Our middle order;Riyad and Shabbir
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:18 AM
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@tanvir As much as I am a fan of Soumya... I dont think we will have the right balance if we slot him at no 8. We need an all rounder and Nasir fits the job pretty well with his wicket to wicket bowling and the tendency to break partnerships.

1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Mahmudullah
4) Mominul
5) Mushfique
6) Shakib
7) Shabbir
8) Miraz
9) Abu Zayed
10) Al-Amin
11) Noor Hossain/Tanvir Haider (Assuming that Jubair is not in good shape with the ball)

Among the pace bowlers in consideration. Abu Zayed has best stats in FC. He has played 46 matches and took 128 wickets at an average of 29.17 and SR 49.3. Probably this is the best among pace bowlers in Bangladesh who have played at least 20 FC matches.

Al Amin has the second best stats among the pace bowlers. I don't see any reason for not going with the stats.
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:18 AM
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Anyone knows a good bowling allrounder who can tie up and end?
Lord abul Bradman hassan..problem is he bowls like Bradman too
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:23 AM
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Since 2015, Rubel has been a much better bowler under Streak. We have to use him with the old ball. Mash used him as a strike bowler regularly and he delivered and he needs to be used in short aggressive bursts in test. Even if he doesn't get wickets he can send down some nasty bouncers and soften them up for the other end.
Bhai longer version bowling is different from shorter version. Rubel has never shown any signs of improvement in longer version.

Why not trying to pick bowlers who are better in longer version?
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:25 AM
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I think we should change our three last players.

Nasir or Moshaddek in place of Taijul
Shahid/Taskin for Shafiul
Alamin for Rabbi
As Dhaka will not fully turning pitch,pacers need to play their part.Again England having so many left handed batsman we require another off spinner.Nasir / Moshadek inclusion will boost our batting we having long tail compare to England.
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:26 AM
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1) Tamim
2) Imrul
3) Mahmudullah
4) Mominul
5) Mushfique
6) Shakib
7) Shabbir
8) Miraz
9) Abu Zayed
10) Al-Amin
11) Noor Hossain/Tanvir Haider (Assuming that Jubair is not in good shape with the ball)

Among the pace bowlers in consideration. Abu Zayed has best stats in FC. He has played 46 matches and took 128 wickets at an average of 29.17 and SR 49.3. Probably this is the best among pace bowlers in Bangladesh who have played at least 20 FC matches.

Al Amin has the second best stats among the pace bowlers. I don't see any reason for not going with the stats.
well Abu Zayed can't do worse than Shafiul and Kamrul so I wouldnt mind. Our pacers seriously made a case for an all spin attack devoid of any pace bowlers.
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:29 AM
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I would go for Shahid, Jubair, Miraz and Shakib as the four specialist bowler backed by Nasir or Mosaddek. I think Mosaddek's foot work is really good and he will do well in Tests on our pitches at least until the ball starts reversing. Nasir is a wildcard.. if he still has the hunger then he could be an asset to the side in all format. The question is with his commitment to improve and put in the hard work.
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Old October 24, 2016, 01:36 AM
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Liton will find it difficult to play now after Shabbir'S performance. Litton average 32 in test and last time we played a test, he got a fifty vs SA.

Good competition.

NB: hope he is fit for the NZ series. Need a back up keeper also to put pressure on Our middle order;Riyad and Shabbir
Litton for Mominul? But given Mominul's test average he will not be moved. He may well come good next test.

Shabbir's performance was great. The real test (pardon the pun) will be how consistent he is. Problem for BD batsmen over the years is consistency - too often we see shooting stars.

I wish Mehedi showed more batting prowess . It would allow us to choose 2 specialist seamers. ...
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Old October 24, 2016, 02:06 AM
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Lord abul Bradman hassan..problem is he bowls like Bradman too
How good Allauddin Babu is.He is consider as pace bowling allrounder.
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Old October 24, 2016, 02:24 AM
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Dropping the pacers is uncalled for. It's not their fault they were poorly managed by the skipper.

Mushy bringing on Kamrul at 21-3 in the first innings was a huge blunder and fed into England's strength.

Actually felt Shafiul had a good opening spell and Kamrul came back well in 2nd innings that too on debut with captain setting defensive fields with reversing ball!
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Old October 24, 2016, 02:54 AM
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The reason why we got so close to winning this one was because we actually went with an aggressive strategy/bowling attack

They were thinking about picking Soumya instead of one of the seamers... But even though both of them were totally useless, it was a brave effort that wouldve paid off if they picked the right ones. 2 seamers is sort of a basic requirement for test cricket.

As much as a i hate Mushy's captaincy, u cant just get rid of him mid way. I dont think we have anyone that is perfect captaincy material other then Mash. Sure Riyad can be the skipper and will probably be a bit better... but he will also have his flaws and that maybe in other areas. The transition of captaincy needs to be planned out. Whoever is being considered to take over, they should be given the vice captaincy for a few game and let them run a few things and most importantly observe Mushy's mistakes and understand the consequences of certain decisions.

I have said this before, Mash needs to be in that dressing for our test matches.... The one thing Haturi da cant do at all is connect with the players and motivate them. Mash can do that and at this point, that maybe the only thing that we need to start winning some of these close games.
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How good Allauddin Babu is.He is consider as pace bowling allrounder.
havent tried him in international stage but I doubt he'll be any good than zia or reza
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Old October 24, 2016, 03:33 AM
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tamim
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Mosaddek
mominul
Riadh
Mushfiq
shakib
Sabbir
Meraz
MD. Shahid
Taijul/Jubaer/Tanvir Hyder/Rubel/Sagar Alam/Shane Warne/Coutney Walsh
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Old October 24, 2016, 03:34 AM
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Bhai longer version bowling is different from shorter version. Rubel has never shown any signs of improvement in longer version.

Why not trying to pick bowlers who are better in longer version?
Don't get me wrong, I am only favoring Rubel due to lack of options. If you say pick the best bowler from NCL based on stats alone and go with it I would say it might ruin a career just like Mosharaf or Kamrul. Kamrul, I still believe could develop into a good bowler but now he might get discarded for his terrible debut. I don't want to see this happening to any other pacer because we know that the gap between NCL and international cricket is very high.

I also agree that longer version takes a different skill-set than shorter version. Rubel with his slingy action will never be the line and length bowler like Broad but he still has 3 advantages over an untested NCL pacer. He has international experience bowling to top batsman in ODIs, he has the pace and he also bowls good yorkers and bouncers, he can generate good reverse swing at high speeds. Hence when the ball gets old i believe we can still use him as a wicket taker in short bursts with the right fields. He has never had a defined role in a Test attack. In fact none of our pacers do besides filling up the number to complete the 11.
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Pick shahid if he's available I guess, thing is there needs to be something about the pacers that are picked, they either need to be able to keep it tight or have weapons/variations that can cause trouble for the batsmen, so either pick someone with meticulous line and length or someone who can swing it or seem it. Pure pace isn't a big enough weapon unless it's 150kph+ consistently.
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Old October 24, 2016, 04:47 AM
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Tamim
Imrul
Mominul
Shabbir
Shakib
Riyad
Mushfiq+*
Miraz
Taijul
Shahid
Taskin/Al-Amin/Rabbi

I think more than the XI it's important to get the batting order right. Riyad just doesn't look convincing up the order. I think both Riyad and Mushfiq are good at batting with the tail.

Shafiul needs to go. He is not offering anything at the moment. If Shahid is fit we need him back to bowl with the new ball. Ideally I'd want Taskin as the second pacer but Hathu will probably veto it. I am indifferent between Rabbi and Al-Amin. Rabbi looked decent with the old ball.

I really hope we can another sporting wicket at Mirpur. Nothing to lose. A match like the one we just had is much more beneficial in the long run than a run-fest where the opposition scores 650/5 and then we score 400 all out and the match is drawn. It offers absolutely nothing in terms of development and is painful to watch.
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