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Old October 30, 2011, 01:07 AM
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Default Is Mushy the worst test wicket keeper at the moment?

As the title suggests, I would like to know if he is the worst among test playing nations. I dont have any stat to confirm that. So I am asking if someone can come up with some stats or any other evidence to prove/disprove that. However from whatever I have seen so far I believe he is. Please don't think I am trying to bash him based on this test's performance. I like him for his discipline and punctuality. But we have to think what is best for our team. If he couldn't turn himself to a international quality wicket keeper after playing so many years in international level, we should sincerely look for a better alternative. If he is irreplaceable as a batsman/team man he can stay in the team as a batsman. And this example is not rare in international cricket. We definitely have a void in the middle order. He can potentially fill that void by becoming just a specialist batsman after giving up keeping.
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:10 AM
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I thought he had improved of late...but he's had a shocking test.

Kamran Akmal is no longer keeper for Pakistan, but he was at least 1000 times worse.
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:11 AM
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As the title suggests, I would like to know if he is the worst among test playing nations. I dont have any stat to confirm that. So I am asking if someone can come up with some stats or any other evidence to prove/disprove that. However from whatever I have seen so far I believe he is. Please don't think I am trying to bash him based on this test's performance. I like him for his discipline and punctuality. But we have to think what is best for our team. If he couldn't turn himself to a international quality wicket keeper after playing so many years in international level, we should sincerely look for a better alternative. If he is irreplaceable as a batsman/team man he can stay in the team as a batsman. And this example is not rare in international cricket. We definitely have a void in the middle order. He can potentially fill that void by becoming just a specialist batsman after giving up keeping.
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:31 AM
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Kamran Akmal is no longer keeper for Pakistan, but he was at least 1000 times worse.
Yup. Thats why he is no longer in the team along with other reasons.
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:33 AM
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was that a sarcasm?
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:38 AM
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where's the poll?
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:43 AM
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Very valid question raised. This type of dropped catches is demoralizing for our young bowlers.

I don't see significant improvement in wicket keeping in future. He was always below par and realistically will continue to be that way.

Unfortunately I don't see with current situation BCB will be looking for any alternative in near future as long as Rahim is the captain.

If I am the decision maker, I would find some competition in this position and when we find a good WC, I would move Rahim as a dedicated batsman.
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:45 AM
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ai test a ki temon kono drop korese? na korle ai somoy ai thread kano? world ar sob keeper e du akta catch miss kore thake,ate temon kono factor noy!
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:47 AM
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ai test a ki temon kono drop korese? na korle ai somoy ai thread kano? world ar sob keeper e du akta catch miss kore thake,ate temon kono factor noy!
Abu Dada,

Are you watching the game? If so, then why you are asking this question. You should know the relevance of this thread and why it is opened now.
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:51 AM
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ai test a ki temon kono drop korese? na korle ai somoy ai thread kano? world ar sob keeper e du akta catch miss kore thake,ate temon kono factor noy!
Hu, drop koreche. Two absolute sitters, catches you'd expect grade level wicket keepers to make.
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:53 AM
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At the moment? I would say one of the worst. Anamul should be eventually groomed as the wicketkeeper batsman and Mushy should just concentrate on his batting.
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Old October 30, 2011, 01:55 AM
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His competitor is no longer keeper for Pakistan. So he took that place with more responsibilities!! Can any one tell me what is average?
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Old October 30, 2011, 02:02 AM
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Where is the poll ??
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Old October 30, 2011, 02:26 AM
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Where is the poll ??
There is no need for a poll. I just said what I thought and asked if you thought the same. I have no pleasure proving him the absolute worst.
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Old October 30, 2011, 04:32 AM
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well dhiman is a better keeper but BD need the keeper spot to also be a very good batsman and mushy is turning himself into that, not sure dhiman can do that....anamul is a good prospect but it's to early for him i think.
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Old October 30, 2011, 04:45 AM
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He's had a bad Test so far but he was very good in Zimbabwe. I just don't think it's viable for a wicket-keeper to bat anywhere other than no. 7 in Test matches. And he's got the added responsibility of captaincy too now. So I think after Riyad comes back he should go back to batting at no. 7 and Naeem should replace Rokibul at no. 4. As for alternatives there simply aren't any unless you're prepared to have someone who'll contribute nothing with the bat.
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Old October 30, 2011, 06:23 AM
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Mushy is thinking too much on his captaincy than his job at hand.
He should concentrate more on his keeping otherwise he will cost us more matches.
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Old October 30, 2011, 06:51 AM
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i don't know why he is the worst keeper when balls keep low...specially when spinners r on...he has got no improvements here...what makes me angry is our players love to repeating the mistakes again n again...
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Old October 30, 2011, 07:02 AM
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There are signs of a solid keeping technique, but in general, like with many other aspects of a lot of Bangladesh's players, lack of application and focus isn't really shown on a consistent basis.
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Old October 30, 2011, 08:51 AM
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though i dont like mushy as a keeper (he cant improve anymore) but i would like to see him in the team as a batsman, specially in the test and i think he is better captain in every sense.

my choice of wkt keeper

1. t20 and ODI --- anamul hauque
2. Test-- dhiman ghosh
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Old October 30, 2011, 03:29 PM
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Anamul wicket keeper & Mushy batsman like Dilshan.
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Old October 30, 2011, 03:47 PM
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well dhiman is a better keeper but BD need the keeper spot to also be a very good batsman and mushy is turning himself into that, not sure dhiman can do that....anamul is a good prospect but it's to early for him i think.
early or not i don't think we have a choice. Mushy is too poor with gloves...plus WK and batting in top 5 is tough and that might be why he dropped two sitters this game. if he gives up his gloves we can move him up to #3 or 4, spots where he has teh technique + temperment to be the best in our history. he also has good stroke play and hence the ability to attack/counter-attack.

i want to blood Anamul in for the PAK series if the result is sticking with Imrul/Junaid/Rock. I'm glad we'll get a chance to see Rock and SN in another innings to see what they have to offer.

But ideally, I'd like to see Anamul and Asif ahmed come in for the Pak series as NCL will be over by then. Perfect time to breed them in, imo. Let anamul keep wicket and if he displays that he is too good a batsman to be batting down the order, let him give up his gloves and move up the order as well.

As is, I think we have a settled spin attack. The Pacers, for all their flaws, still pick themselves so our depth chart should look like this, imo, for the PAK series:

1) Tamim
2) ?, Naeem possibly

3) Asif Ahmed, Nafees
4) Mushfiq
5) Naeem, Ashraful, Raqibul, Anamul (+)
6) Shakib
7) Riyad
8) Nasir
9) Sunny
10) Shahadat, Shafiul
11) Rubel

Anamul is also a potential opener but then Mushy would have to keep wicket still.
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Old October 30, 2011, 04:57 PM
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Surely one of the .....
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Old October 31, 2011, 02:58 AM
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We don't have many batsmen as good as or better than GoBoy, talking both potential and application here, but his keeping continues to be a liability. While his stumping ability is decent due to that quick glove hand and naturally low center of gravity, his habit of dropping catches, crappy lateral footwork and bad range makes many others better than him behind the stumps. Here's a list:

1. Dhiman Ghosh (Great WK, inconsistent batsman with questionable technique).

2. Shahin Hossain (Great WK, slow and steady batsman with decent technique).

3. Saghir Hossain Pavel (OK WK, horrific technique with the bat).

4. Jahural Islam Aumee (OK WK, decent technique with the bat).

5. Anamul Haque Bijauy (Good WK, great batsman).

My choice is Bijauy, also capable of opening the innings with different gears in all forms of the game, by a mile.

Md. Mithun Ali just sucks both behind and in front of the stumps.
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Old October 31, 2011, 06:09 AM
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well he did everything right till the dhaka test, but ya, he isnt sharp enough at this level.

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