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September 28, 2016, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WarWolf
Do you think that he is not a selfish player?
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Oh I think he is selfish, and quite annoying behind the stumps.
What point I wanted to make was that, his innings, although selfish, helped us achieve good position. If Soumya would have played such a selfish innings yesterday, we would not be having this kind of a discussion today. We would be celebrating a win.
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September 29, 2016, 08:10 AM
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Bring Back Javed Omar Gulla:
NO JOKE...check his recent stats...he is a changed man who can hit.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/America/...yer/55935.html
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September 29, 2016, 08:21 AM
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Soumya will be back to form within next 12 months.
Fingers crossed !
But he needs to be dropped from the squad for the time being.
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September 29, 2016, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tanvir_nus
Another ridiculous thread? Maybe, but hear me out.
I can't remember the last time I used to sit and wait for a batsman to walk in. I really can't. Soumya from the moment I saw him bat, I have wanted to see more and more and more. I wait for him to come to the crease and sit down at the ground level and look towards the bowler's run-up knowing he is visualizing how he is going to dominate them.
And we found one batsman who could dominate bowlers of amazing qualities and dominate humbly. That lazy elegance that once eluded the greatest of the greats from Bangladesh, I found it him. Every shot of his through the offside I watched in awe and it gave me immense satisfaction seeing how he bisected fielders without really trying to bash the ball apart someone like Tamim would try.
Everyone knows my favourite bowler is Taskin, and there is a reason for it. I look for players that can take Bangladesh to heights that we could never even dream of. Taskin is one of them, and from the moment I saw Soumya, I truly and with all my felt Soumya is another one of them. I don't know yet if I am wrong, but it does break my heart to see him fail and fail and fail and when Bangladesh needs him the most. A world cup has gone by and another major important tourney coming in 2017 for Bangladesh.
What does he really need to do? I can't think of anything the coaching stuff or he hasn't tried. The time for trying is almost coming to an end and I honestly hope and pray he doesn't let me down. I miss the old Soumya, the one I knew and the one we all know. He needs one big score. One match can turn it around. We need Soumya more than he needs us. This is how I watch Bangladeshi matches now, switch on Tv from 1-10 overs, if Soumya is there watch till he lasts or watch the last 5 overs. I really don't watch any other batsman. It is the honest truth ladies and gentlemen. That is how much he has had an impact on me batting wise. Sure I watch Taskin bowl. But as I said I truly find pleasure in watching him bat.
Question is, why is he out of form for so long A burning heart wants to know
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He broke into the national team without showing any consistent performance. His average was not even decent when got into the national team. Since he could bowl medium pace, which is the main reason why he was included in the national team just before world cup. What we saw from him since the World Cup was out of his ordinary norm performance and expected he would continue like that. However, he is not able deliver because he is just an ordinary player. Now look at his season by season List A performance. He was never a consistent performer.
Season | | Matches | Inns | Not Out | Runs | HS | Ave | 100 | 50 | Ct | St | 2010-11 | (Bangladesh) | 2 | 2 | 0 | 13 | 12 | 6.50 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2013 | (Singapore) | 2 | 2 | 0 | 30 | 30 | 15.00 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2013-14 | (Bangladesh) | 10 | 9 | 0 | 184 | 68 | 20.44 | 0 | 2 | 4 | | 2014 | (West Indies) | 1 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 11 | 11.00 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2014-15 | (New Zealand) | 2 | 2 | 0 | 53 | 51 | 26.50 | 0 | 1 | 5 | | 2014-15 | (Bangladesh) | 22 | 22 | 1 | 963 | 127* | 45.85 | 2 | 6 | 7 | | 2014-15 | (Australia) | 4 | 4 | 0 | 122 | 40 | 30.50 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2015 | (Bangladesh) | 6 | 6 | 1 | 333 | 90 | 66.60 | 0 | 3 | 3 | | 2015-16 | (India) | 3 | 3 | 0 | 34 | 24 | 11.33 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2016 | (Bangladesh) | 15 | 15 | 0 | 349 | 84 | 23.26 | 0 | 1 | 8 | | 2016-17 | (Bangladesh) | 2 | 2 | 0 | 20 | 20 | 10.00 | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
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September 29, 2016, 04:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mridul
He broke into the national team without showing any consistent performance. His average was not even decent when got into the national team. Since he could bowl medium pace, which is the main reason why he was included in the national team just before world cup. What we saw from him since the World Cup was out of his ordinary norm performance and expected he would continue like that. However, he is not able deliver because he is just an ordinary player. Now look at his season by season List A performance. He was never a consistent performer.
Season | | Matches | Inns | Not Out | Runs | HS | Ave | 100 | 50 | Ct | St | 2010-11 | (Bangladesh) | 2 | 2 | 0 | 13 | 12 | 6.50 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2013 | (Singapore) | 2 | 2 | 0 | 30 | 30 | 15.00 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2013-14 | (Bangladesh) | 10 | 9 | 0 | 184 | 68 | 20.44 | 0 | 2 | 4 | | 2014 | (West Indies) | 1 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 11 | 11.00 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2014-15 | (New Zealand) | 2 | 2 | 0 | 53 | 51 | 26.50 | 0 | 1 | 5 | | 2014-15 | (Bangladesh) | 22 | 22 | 1 | 963 | 127* | 45.85 | 2 | 6 | 7 | | 2014-15 | (Australia) | 4 | 4 | 0 | 122 | 40 | 30.50 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2015 | (Bangladesh) | 6 | 6 | 1 | 333 | 90 | 66.60 | 0 | 3 | 3 | | 2015-16 | (India) | 3 | 3 | 0 | 34 | 24 | 11.33 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2016 | (Bangladesh) | 15 | 15 | 0 | 349 | 84 | 23.26 | 0 | 1 | 8 | | 2016-17 | (Bangladesh) | 2 | 2 | 0 | 20 | 20 | 10.00 | 0 | 0 | 1 | |
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No..man. if you look at his batting, you feel there is something that is different from others. He's specially talented. He has special strokeplay quality and thats bi-born, you cant just practice and have it. Sometimes stats don't justify ones talent.
It's more appropriate if you say he's very talented and skilled player with poor temperament.
As i stated before he's one of those Ashrafuls.
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September 29, 2016, 04:13 PM
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If he becomes as awesome and consistent as Ganguly, then I will give him a new nickname: "Bangladeshi Dada"....
I think he still has time in his side...just need some technical guidance from Ganguly, Haturasinghe, Samaraweera... his timing on many of his shots when on song looks so effortless...he lost that zing!
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September 29, 2016, 05:51 PM
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I will just repeat one of my lines again...
"We need Soumya more than he needs us"
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September 29, 2016, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rifat
If he becomes as awesome and consistent as Ganguly, then I will give him a new nickname: "Bangladeshi Dada"....
I think he still has time in his side...just need some technical guidance from Ganguly, Haturasinghe, Samaraweera... his timing on many of his shots when on song looks so effortless...he lost that zing!
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I respect you but that must be the dumbest comparison ever. Why not Jayasuria? Why not Gilchrist?
It's like you compliment a Black guy "Oh you are like Denzel extremely handsome" and then he says "Why not Brad Pitt?"
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September 29, 2016, 06:53 PM
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^^Ganguly was a solid batsmen who won India many games not sure why u trying to create something out of nothing
Besides, some of Soumya's shots closely resemble the shots of Ganguly if u know what I mean
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September 29, 2016, 07:07 PM
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And while it surfaced let's face it right on. Let's not for a second pretend that we don't have our bias.
Speaking in general: Why the hell is HE facing all the heat all of a sudden?
His identity is not someone who has a "different name" and let's be honest for a second here nor his religion. His identity is someone who is an excellent stroke-playing batsman. A BANGLADESHI batsman.
Not sure if it was another player - shriek Ashraful- who would make a litany of poor performances yet anyone would raise an eyebrow. And a single or two bad performances, all of a sudden everyone is hating on him.
Disgusting.
And I FULLY stand by this post of mine here. Sometimes we need to call a spade a spade.
And at Rifat, only YOU know what you had in your heart and intent. Ektu shot shahosh thaka bhalo to own up.
I bet you wouldn't be so quick to call Tamim or Kayes "Bangladeshi Dada" ....
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September 29, 2016, 08:25 PM
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yes because Tamim and Kayes don't play ike Ganguly
#EndOfDiscussion.
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September 29, 2016, 08:30 PM
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on topic,
I think Mashrafee missed a trick by not letting Soumya bowl in these pitches, his medium pace may be deceptive and may pick up wickets...
So If Soumya plays in the third ODI, let him bowl a couple...
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September 29, 2016, 09:53 PM
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Sometimes some of the most beautiful friendship is created after fight. LOL! Me and Rifat are playing chess now. Rifat has pretty good ellow rating.
God. Tao. Allah works in mysterious ways.
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September 30, 2016, 09:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rifat
^^Ganguly was a solid batsmen who won India many games not sure why u trying to create something out of nothing
Besides, some of Soumya's shots closely resemble the shots of Ganguly if u know what I mean
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Huh? Soumya prefers to play on the legside (and in his current poor form seems to be only hitting there) which is the exact opposite of Ganguly.
Gangs played those legside hoicks too, but much later in his innings when he was well set.
And as bowlers... believe it or not Ganguly could really swing the ball when conditions were right.
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