T20 Challenge Series - Bangladesh National Team v Bangladesh A Team

[Saifulsohel]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
I really don't get why people rate Enamul so much higher than Elias. Not just calling you out, but others have said the same thing. Just look at the SRs of both bowlers and you'll see Elias has the better SR in both ODIs and Tests and the averages are relatively the same. I understand Elias was flat out ugly in SL but Elias and Enamul are similar in quality imo but still would rate Elias ahead of Enamul

Arafat Sunny's average and SR are also better than Enamul's in List A's and FC's plus his T20 stats are not much worse off.

I can feel for Enamul but he also has to understand that there are other SLA's that are doing very well as well. Unfortunately for him, it's the biggest competition in the team. Razzak and Gazi are basically locks for T20I's and ODI's. Tests are probably the only format where he's got a chance but again he has both the Sunny's and Sajib to compete with. So it'll continue to be tough for him but that's how tough it is to get in to the national team as a spinner.

while bpl is the only competitive t20 league in bd & enam was best in the league, i cant understand which statistics u r mentioning.

[Rinathq]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
Milon is in I think. That's the Nazmul Hossain that's in I think.

u are prolly right.... although i will love to see both Nazmuls

[cricbook]

Originally Posted by Only1raz
Personally I would of had a 14 man squad and had the below.

Tamim Iqbal over Jahurul Islam
Raqibul Hasan over Marshall Ayub
Mosaddek Hossain over Mithun Ali
Enamul Haque over Elias Sunny

and added Shafiul Islam & Taskin Ahmed

I agres with u.... But beta tamim er ki hoise?????? Are ar koto motion dekhabe ??? Naki other openers der dekhar jonno hes in rest? Atleast 1 or 2 match khelte to pare ...

[M.H.Rubel]

Originally Posted by Nadim
Perhaps an indication for the next VC?

But I think its to even out the team.


Anyway, Tamim er ki practice lage na? As far as I remember he is not injured or anything. ...

I have a same kind of feeling. They are may be testing the leading capacity of Nasir.

[MHRAM]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
I really don't get why people rate Enamul so much higher than Elias. Not just calling you out, but others have said the same thing. Just look at the SRs of both bowlers and you'll see Elias has the better SR in both ODIs and Tests and the averages are relatively the same. I understand Elias was flat out ugly in SL but Elias and Enamul are similar in quality imo but still would rate Elias ahead of Enamul

Arafat Sunny's average and SR are also better than Enamul's in List A's and FC's plus his T20 stats are not much worse off.

I can feel for Enamul but he also has to understand that there are other SLA's that are doing very well as well. Unfortunately for him, it's the biggest competition in the team. Razzak and Gazi are basically locks for T20I's and ODI's. Tests are probably the only format where he's got a chance but again he has both the Sunny's and Sajib to compete with. So it'll continue to be tough for him but that's how tough it is to get in to the national team as a spinner.

I was talking about T20 performance. I would certainly rate Enam higher than Elias in T20. As per BPL performance, I think enamul has been the better T20 bowler around.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
I was talking about T20 performance. I would certainly rate Enam higher than Elias in T20. As per BPL performance, I think enamul has been the better T20 bowler around.

Elias was the highest wicket taker in BPL 1. In 7 T20I matches he's taken 9 wickets at an an avg of a 16 with a SR of a 15.

Why the need to replace him then? Again only spot Enamul could take is Arafat who also has very good stats to back himself up.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by Saifulsohel
while bpl is the only competitive t20 league in bd & enam was best in the league, i cant understand which statistics u r mentioning.

Look at their stats on their main profile page.

[MHRAM]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
Elias was the highest wicket taker in BPL 1. In 7 T20I matches he's taken 9 wickets at an an avg of a 16 with a SR of a 15.

Why the need to replace him then? Again only spot Enamul could take is Arafat who also has very good stats to back himself up.

I would preferrably pick Enam not only on the basis of stats but average. Its true that Elias has good stats in T20Is but you need to look at the opposition-Ireland/Scot/Dutch mainly.

However, its just a hypothesis that Enamul would be much more useful in the international arena

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
I would preferrably pick Enam not only on the basis of stats but average. Its true that Elias has good stats in T20Is but you need to look at the opposition-Ireland/Scot/Dutch mainly.

However, its just a hypothesis that Enamul would be much more useful in the international arena

Regardless of the opposition. Those stats are very good.

I like both spinners honestly. They're both good spinners who have had some success in international cricket. Both aren't afraid to flight their deliveries and give it a rip.

I honestly don't see much separation in our SLAs in terms of quality like I've always maintained.

[BanCricFan]

Elias Sunny has more batting ability than Enam. In T20 this could be a factor behind his inclusion over Enam Jnr. I would have love to see Sanjamul Islam, though. This lad has a very decent stats with both the ball and bat. But, we got so many decent SLAs. Naturally, the competition is so fierce.

This will be a great platform for Sabbir to further his case.

[BanCricFan]

On a different note, we better get used to seeing Tamim in and out of the play because of his fitness issues. He has been over weight and lethargic most of the time over the last few years. This boy better hit the gym, kick bat habbits (smoking) and get fitter and stronger. He simply doesn't look like an athelete these days. He has boobies for crying out loud! If he continues in the same vain, expect serious non-performance both on and off the field.

Sohag Gazi also must hit the gym. This boy is a future suspect for running into fitness related issues.

[cricketboy]

I thought this will be a good place to share this information from a facebook page:

#‎Corporate‬ T-20 Chittagong - Final - MA Aziz Stadium
Tomorrow - 05 December - 12.30 PM
FMC Fighters
(সাকিব আল হাসান, সাব্বির রুম্মান, ফরহাদ রেজা)

বনাম

Pirates of Chittagong
(নাসির হোসেন, সোহাগ গাজি, আলাউদ্দিন বাবু)

# 2nd Semi Final Held Today -
Pirates of CTG vs Kwality

Pirates Of Ctg - 127/8 (20 Overs)
Sohag Gazi 70 (55)
Nasir Hossain 0 (1)
Elias Sunny 4-0-19-3

Kwality - 120/7 (20 Overs)
Sohag Gazi 4-0-19-2
Alauddin Babu 4-0-27-2

Man of The Match - Sohag Gazi

[Ajfar]

They should have put the national team bowlers on the A team. I would rather have batsman's face our best bowlers. Anamul, Soumya, Naeem might hit Farhad Reza and Alauddin Babu all over the park and make the squad. I would have preferred to see them facing against Gazi, Mash, Shakib and Razzak. This tournament is suppose to give our players real match practice, that will not be accomplished if they are facing hit me kind of full tosses from Farhad Reza.

[Rinathq]

At this point Raj-Sunny-Enam deserves an equal chance to make the squad. Raj is no better performer than the other two where T20 is concerned.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by rinathq
At this point Raj-Sunny-Enam deserves an equal chance to make the squad. Raj is no better performer than the other two where T20 is concerned.

An average of about a 19 with an Econ rate of under a 7 and SR of a 16 in 28 T20Is, Razzak deserves to be ahead of the other SLAs. Take in in to account of how much more experience Razzak has compared to the others and Razzak should be pretty much a lock for the WC squad IMO

[MHRAM]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
Regardless of the opposition. Those stats are very good.

I like both spinners honestly. They're both good spinners who have had some success in international cricket. Both aren't afraid to flight their deliveries and give it a rip.

I honestly don't see much separation in our SLAs in terms of quality like I've always maintained.

Fair enough

It will be a breath of fresh air if we produced a leggie of the quality of our SLAs, a chinaman bowler like Hogg won't be bad

[BD_TigerZ]

Mithun, Elias, Ayub, Jahirul re na nia Rok, Enam, Mossadek, Junaid re nile bhalo hoto.

[BD_TigerZ]

For shorter format
Zunaid>Imrul and Aumi
Rok>Ayub
Mossadek>>>Mithun(?)
Enam deserved it more than Elias.
And what on earth did Aumi do to return..

[cricketboy]

Final of 20-20 Corporate Chittagong tournament:

কর্পোরেট টি-২০ চট্টগ্রামের চ্যাম্পিয়ন নাসির হোসেন এবং সোহাগ গাজির পাইরেটস অফ চিটাগাং।
Pirates Of Chittagong - 155/8 (20 Overs)
Nasir Hossain 63 (37)
Sohag Gazi 39 (38)

Shakib al Hasan 4-0-31-2
Farhad Reza 4-0-16-1

FMC Fighters - 118/9 (20 Overs)
Shakib Al Hasan 30 (30)
Sabbir Rumman 28 (22)
Farhad Reza 29 (28)

Alauddin Babu 4-0-18-3
Sohag Gazi 4-0-21-1

Pirates of Chittagong Won The Corporate T20 Chittagong 2013.

[Rinathq]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
An average of about a 19 with an Econ rate of under a 7 and SR of a 16 in 28 T20Is, Razzak deserves to be ahead of the other SLAs. Take in in to account of how much more experience Razzak has compared to the others and Razzak should be pretty much a lock for the WC squad IMO

i believe if others had the same number of opportunity as he did, their stats would look similar...

[Rinathq]

Originally Posted by cricketboy
Final of 20-20 Corporate Chittagong tournament:

কর্পোরেট টি-২০ চট্টগ্রামের চ্যাম্পিয়ন নাসির হোসেন এবং সোহাগ গাজির পাইরেটস অফ চিটাগাং।
Pirates Of Chittagong - 155/8 (20 Overs)
Nasir Hossain 63 (37)
Sohag Gazi 39 (38)

Shakib al Hasan 4-0-31-2
Farhad Reza 4-0-16-1

FMC Fighters - 118/9 (20 Overs)
Shakib Al Hasan 30 (30)
Sabbir Rumman 28 (22)
Farhad Reza 29 (28)

Alauddin Babu 4-0-18-3
Sohag Gazi 4-0-21-1

Pirates of Chittagong Won The Corporate T20 Chittagong 2013.

Thats some serious economy bowling by Reza.... seeing how the total was still pretty good. Great figures from Babu and good allround performance by Gazi.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by rinathq
i believe if others had the same number of opportunity as he did, their stats would look similar...

Idk man those are good stats right there. Not easy to replicate which is why Raj deserves to be far ahead of the rest of the SLAs

[MHRAM]

I will accept that Raj has been our better spinner in LOIs. His test performance has a lot to be desired

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by MHRAM
I will accept that Raj has been our better spinner in LOIs. His test performance has a lot to be desired

I agree and we should look for another spinner in Tests. T20Is and. ODIs though Raj deserves to be in the side. Regardless of what people say, he's got very good stats behind him is one of our main weapons in LOIs.

[Mauryan]

Happy to see muktar ali get a chance enjoyed his perfomance in bpl 2