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December 9, 2012, 04:58 AM
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Should Anamul Play T20 ?
Well I do agree to AF bhai, that he is more comfortable in Test matches..I.e. the longer format. In his first and second ODIs he played more with patience that a test batsmen would do and he was successful.
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Originally Posted by al Furqaan
We're all forgetting that this is Anam's LESSER format of the game. He's more of a longer version player. He still averaged damn near 40 in his first series, playing out of position, against a F9 side. In Tests, with the reduced need to hit out and score runs at a fast clip expect him to leave most of the deliveries he fished at and also expect his footwork to be more nimble if not perfect.
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But his batting in 2/3/4 th ODIs was completely different. His approach was completely different probably due to some complains from around him of being a bit slow in first two. And he failed to do that.
In view of the above, don't you guys think that including him in the T20 team was a wrong decision and forcing him to bat against his natural approach, might ruin his techniques in these early days and we might lose a great prospect for ODIs and Tests?? I do still think that his kind of slowish batting is still very important in ODIs for any team. There must be someone to anchor the innings and he shouldn't be forced to bat with higher strike rates, until he feels it himself and can do that.
Selectors have almost kept the same ODI team for T20, which is a bit strange, but good to see that Naeem didn't make it there. Taking Naeem in ODI was another such mistake... We just destroy our player by our nonprofessional sense of judgement. That's how I felt. Because T20 is a very demanding format, where you need to improvise a lot, and it can be difficult for a young player to forget it all together and go back to the basics so easily. The reason (Too Much Stroke Play) for which we are suffering to achieve any good result in test cricket, even after 10+ years.
Do you think that it won't affect him any way?
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December 9, 2012, 05:48 AM
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My answer is no (for T20). Then again, do we have too many options?
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December 9, 2012, 07:12 AM
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could have chosen souyma i think for t20s...even fazle rabbi...not sold on anamul playing t20s right now but i guess he has potential to smash the ball as he did after reaching his ton in his 2nd ODI.
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December 9, 2012, 07:57 AM
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Stupid selectors cannot even see that he was made specifically for Test Cricket who can stay at the crease for well over 5 hours. But I think Anamul is smart enough to know how to bat properly.
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December 9, 2012, 08:44 AM
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I think we don't have a lot of options. So we can try with him.
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December 9, 2012, 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldCup11
My answer is no (for T20). Then again, do we have too many options?
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Yes we have plenty options.
Najmul hossain milon
Ash
Kapali
Shuvagoto
Marshall
Dollar mahmud as a batsman
Aftab
Junaed
Sabbir
All are good t20 option
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December 9, 2012, 09:15 AM
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Soumya is another option too
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December 9, 2012, 09:21 AM
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December 9, 2012, 09:23 AM
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Sorry guys.. I have to defend Anamul here. He was TERRIFIC in the BPL for Dhaka Gladiators and if used correctly, he can be a special talent.
In case you have forgotten about his T20 skills enjoy them here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtSKpTbhDCM
Anamul is a talent in all forms of the game.. PERIOD
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December 9, 2012, 10:20 AM
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I think any particular batsman can excel at 2 formats of the game at most. Either Tests and ODIs, or T20s and ODIs. VERY few batsmen in the world are good at all 3 formats of the game. I think only AB de Villiers and Kevin Pietersen fall in that category.
On the other hand very good test batsmen like Kallis, Tendulkar, Ponting, Dravid, Clarke, Amla, Cook, Bell have either decided not to take part in T20s, or have cost their teams with a SR of below 120.
Anamul, in my opinion, is one of these batsmen. He will never be that comfortable in the T20 format. And if he is pushed too much to "improve" his T20 hitting skills, this will affect his test batting in the long run. And we can't afford to let that happen. We need a proper test batsman far more than a T20 player. I hope BCB will take good care of him in the next 2/3 years.
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December 9, 2012, 10:27 AM
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I don't really care about this T20, in fact I don't really care of T20 at all. It's picnic cricket to me.
Anyway, he didn't really play well in the Zim tour. I think he should be given a chance. Coach Ian P is right about his performance. Who knows he might be the match winner.
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December 9, 2012, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas
I think any particular batsman can excel at 2 formats of the game at most. Either Tests and ODIs, or T20s and ODIs. VERY few batsmen in the world are good at all 3 formats of the game. I think only AB de Villiers and Kevin Pietersen fall in that category.
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Umm. Christopher Henry Gayle. How do you not use em as an example of all people?
Then there are Brandom McCullum, Ross Taylor, JP Duminy, David Warner, Shane Watson, Virat Kohli, Sangakkara, Mahela, Dilshan and more. Not just few. World's most dynamic batsmen have mastered all 3 formats.
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Newest addition: Faf DP.
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December 9, 2012, 10:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharup
I don't really care about this T20, in fact I don't really care of T20 at all. It's picnic cricket to me.
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This is soooo 2007. People don't say those things anymore. If you like cricket, you should like all parts of it.
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December 9, 2012, 11:43 AM
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Nope. Don't waste him at T20, you have hacks like Zia for that. Get him exclusively for tests and ODIs. There are plenty of alternatives for T20, I don't mind even Mominul in T20s, not Anam.
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December 9, 2012, 11:57 AM
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anamul kalke fastest century or duck mere dite pare, shabdhan sobai ....
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December 10, 2012, 07:01 PM
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didn't do so bad, 22, strike rate of 183. i guess he can play t20, but i'm still asking the question, should he?
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December 10, 2012, 07:06 PM
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Heard he did great in the BPL, surely he has the talent to excel in that format. Besides its not like we have any t20 specialists in our team besides Shakib with the bat.
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December 11, 2012, 05:21 AM
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My two cents on Anamul from what I have seen.
Anamul is a wonderful prospect. He has good temperament and can hit the ball at will. He has a tendency to score big if he doesn't get out early.
He is one of those batsmen who depends on the quick reflex and sweat timing and sometimes power, not on the footwork. He is weak against good length or 3 quarter pace deliveries just outside the off stump. He needs to work hard to fix this weakness or the opponents will try to capitalize on this weakness.
His strongest side is leg side specially when the ball comes towards his pads. He will hit boundaries or over boundaries most of the times facing such deliveries.
When he hits a ball on the front foot or down the wicket, he doesn't go the line of the ball. He moves forward quickly and plays away from his body. His front foot or down the wicket shots have some similarities with the similar shots of Ganguly dada. Good balance of the body and timing is the key here.
For back foot shots, there is not any significant foot works. He solely relies on body balance, reflex and timing. Sometimes his lack of footwork makes him uncomfortable against rising deliveries around the off stump. If there is some width outside the off stump then he can capitalize it very well.
He needs to work hard to fix his footwork issues. As he has good temperament, reflex and power, I believe he would sustain in international cricket and will be a very good asset for the team. He can play all around the ground and has plenty of shots.
These videos would show what I have just summed up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxGu0tYqC80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtSKpTbhDCM
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December 11, 2012, 05:29 AM
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Another thing....Yes he should play T20.
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December 11, 2012, 06:39 AM
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I hope he would be able to fix his weakness by working with Richard MccInnes.
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December 11, 2012, 09:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarWolf
My two cents on Anamul from what I have seen.
Anamul is a wonderful prospect. He has good temperament and can hit the ball at will. He has a tendency to score big if he doesn't get out early.
He is one of those batsmen who depends on the quick reflex and sweat timing and sometimes power, not on the footwork. He is weak against good length or 3 quarter pace deliveries just outside the off stump. He needs to work hard to fix this weakness or the opponents will try to capitalize on this weakness.
His strongest side is leg side specially when the ball comes towards his pads. He will hit boundaries or over boundaries most of the times facing such deliveries.
When he hits a ball on the front foot or down the wicket, he doesn't go the line of the ball. He moves forward quickly and plays away from his body. His front foot or down the wicket shots have some similarities with the similar shots of Ganguly dada. Good balance of the body and timing is the key here.
For back foot shots, there is not any significant foot works. He solely relies on body balance, reflex and timing. Sometimes his lack of footwork makes him uncomfortable against rising deliveries around the off stump. If there is some width outside the off stump then he can capitalize it very well.
He needs to work hard to fix his footwork issues. As he has good temperament, reflex and power, I believe he would sustain in international cricket and will be a very good asset for the team. He can play all around the ground and has plenty of shots.
These videos would show what I have just summed up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxGu0tYqC80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtSKpTbhDCM
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What a good analysis! I doubt if he knows it or coach has been working with him.
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December 11, 2012, 10:15 AM
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I was reading an article about Gambhir and how he corrected his lack of footwork. This is the excerpt from the article and would work for any of our batsmen who has little or no footwork
Gambhir was an intense character, a bit like Rahul Dravid. He never had a solid technique, but he worked obsessively towards fine-tuning it to suit Test cricket. He once spent days at an exercise where he batted without a bat in his hand, and moved his foot towards the ball bowled at him from a short distance. He did so to stop falling over, which he did a lot during his early days.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-...ry/596707.html
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December 11, 2012, 11:24 AM
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Guys Anamul footwork was fine in that T20 match remember that flick for a 6? made it look so easy.
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December 11, 2012, 01:04 PM
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Quote:
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Guys Anamul footwork was fine in that T20 match remember that flick for a 6? made it look so easy.
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He is very good at playing the balls coming towards the pad. He has problem in facing fast deliveries outside the off stump which comes from good length or a bit short of length.
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December 11, 2012, 01:05 PM
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Abar jegaiy?
ofcource he should play.
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