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Old June 6, 2011, 07:45 AM
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Default ICC may end rotation system for president ( damn it !! it's our turn :@)

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/c...ry/517926.html
The ICC is planning a significant change to the governance of the game by scrapping the rotation policy currently in operation for appointing presidents. The change is likely to be put up for endorsement at June's annual general meeting of board members in Hong Kong.

Under the current system, Pakistan and Bangladesh - the two members who are to put up the next candidates for president and vice-president,are both believed to have objected to the change. But ICC sources have confirmed to ESPNcricinfo that plans are underway to change the rotation policy, which was the main topic of discussion at an ICC governance committee meeting in Chennai last week.

Such a change may have had its genesis in the fate that overtook the former Australian prime minister John Howard when he was nominated for the ICC vice-presidency in 2010. Howard, the rotational choice of Australia and New Zealand, was rejected out of hand by other nations, causing heated debate at last year's annual conference in Singapore. The New Zealander Alan Isaac was ultimately chosen instead.

When the post of president was first created at the ICC, each full member appointed one man for the post on a rotational basis: Jagmohan Dalmiya from India, Malcolm Gray from Australia, Ehsan Mani from Pakistan and Percy Sonn from South Africa were the men appointed under this system.

In 2007, the system was tweaked and the post of vice-president was also created. Though rotation stayed as a policy, nominations now came from pairs of countries: Australia-New Zealand, West Indies-England, India-Sri Lanka, Pakistan-Bangladesh and South Africa-Zimbabwe.
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Old June 6, 2011, 08:01 AM
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what does this mean, i did not understand?
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Old June 6, 2011, 08:18 AM
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somebody is afraid that ijaz butt would become chief of ICC.
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Old June 6, 2011, 08:19 AM
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Under the current system, Pakistan and Bangladesh - the two members who are to put up the next candidates for president and vice-president,

When the post of president was first created at the ICC, each full member appointed one man for the post on a rotational basis: Jagmohan Dalmiya from India, Malcolm Gray from Australia, Ehsan Mani from Pakistan and Percy Sonn from South Africa were the men appointed under this system.
why Pakistan ? Hasn't Pakistan already got their chance (Ehsan Mani) ?
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Old June 6, 2011, 08:22 AM
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Seeing two Pagla Ghora's (Ijaz and Loita), i think, ICC has made a good decision. Otherwise, these two will turn ICC into a circus show.
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Old June 6, 2011, 08:30 AM
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Yea this is probably a good decision, and I highly doubt it has anything to do with us (not that I think Lotus is competent enough to do that job...).
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Old June 6, 2011, 08:33 AM
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guys is it something to do with lotus getting sacked, i am not getting this?
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Old June 6, 2011, 08:56 AM
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Naimul, that's the list of people who have already graced that post. in case you didn't know, one of them, percy sonn is deceased for sometime.

I thought the current system was silly, presidents should be elected, not appointed by turn. only thing is, there should be a cap on how many terms a president can hold office, I don't want ICC to become another personal fiefdom like FIFA or IOC.

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mm517, it has nothing to do with BCB or lotus. cricket australia felt humiliated that their ICC presidential candidate was rejected by everybody, so now, they (that includes other boards as well) want to change the situation so that a similar situation can be avoided in the future.
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Old June 6, 2011, 10:01 AM
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when's the next election?
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Old June 6, 2011, 10:08 AM
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লোটার ভার সামলাইয়া-ই আমরা অস্থির, সাথে এই বাটির ভার ও সামলানো যাবে তো?
P.s. বাটির ভার = এই গুরু দায়িত্ব;
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Old June 6, 2011, 11:59 AM
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Rotation system is better otherwise ICC will be a place of lobbing and grouping. The guy who can do this 'oilling' work better he will occupy the post for long term and weaker team never get chance for the post.
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Old June 6, 2011, 12:10 PM
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Bangladesh has done nothing much yet to deserve one of her own to be at the top of the apex entity. Simple as that.
Butt SHOULD NOT be ICC President.

Fair dinkum.
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Old June 6, 2011, 12:19 PM
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If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

If it looks like ICC is trying to prevent PAK-BD to head ICC in the next round, then it probably is. I think ICC chief should always come from India, the biggest democracy is the world. Did I tell you that they are the biggest cricket market?
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Old June 6, 2011, 12:29 PM
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extremely good decision. or we wud get more idiotic nominations like Howard. now they will have proper elections, and we will get better presidents, not the ones who are dolls of their respective boards.
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Old June 6, 2011, 10:15 PM
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well yes this would be unfair to Bangladesh more then us Pakistan ............ because we had one Pakistani being ICC chief that was MR Ehsan Mani but this is Bangladesh"s first chance so they should get it ............ BCB should be ready to sue ICC which is basically indian cricket council ..................
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Old June 6, 2011, 10:56 PM
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Naimul, that's the list of people who have already graced that post. in case you didn't know, one of them, percy sonn is deceased for sometime.
^^ Thats what i am saying. The news says, Pakistan and Bangladesh are in the line to put their candidate. But Pakistan has already got their chance in the past. If anyone is deprived of this new decision is Bangladesh. Not Pakistan.
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Old June 6, 2011, 11:00 PM
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that was earlier, when all countries got a shot by turn.
the current arrangement calls for appointments by pairs of countries. the pairings are aus-NZ, Ind-SL, pak-BD, SA-zim, WI-eng. which person a pair nominates is up to them.
which means that if pak-BD pair's turn came, PCB and BCB will decide among themselves who will become president and who vice president and rest of the boards would accept that.
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I would rather have someone from Bangladesh when Bangladesh establishes itself as a cricketing power.

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Old June 6, 2011, 11:36 PM
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that was earlier, when all countries got a shot by turn.
the current arrangement calls for appointments by pairs of countries. the pairings are aus-NZ, Ind-SL, pak-BD, SA-zim, WI-eng. which person a pair nominates is up to them.
which means that if pak-BD pair's turn came, PCB and BCB will decide among themselves who will become president and who vice president and rest of the boards would accept that.
okay. Got it ! thanks.
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Old June 7, 2011, 07:03 AM
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Just dont give it to pakistan as a country they are pathetic with pathetic political situation Pakistan suxs anyways there is nothing special there
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Old June 7, 2011, 09:36 AM
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you are welcome bhai.
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Old June 7, 2011, 01:14 PM
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atm, i dnt trust the judgement of either boards. so election will be better.
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Old June 7, 2011, 03:58 PM
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Guys, If you want election that is good but most the nation get opportunty to select president because of the system. Now it should continue untill rests get the chance. Only they can change the law after getting scope all country. Otherwise it will be unfair.
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Old June 7, 2011, 09:48 PM
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Its a blessing in disguise. No doubt Loitta would embarrass us in front of the world. I would condemn the decision if it was Saber Chowdhury's turn though.
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Old June 8, 2011, 10:45 AM
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ICC won't take decision not for Loitta or Saber. They want to take decision because they don't want president from BD or Pak. That is the decision to avoid us. It isn't respectful for us.
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