Australia vs Pakistan 2012

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Banglatiger84
He is the best but not "by far".
Shakib and Swann are not a whole lot worse than him

What i find intersting about ajmal is his career trajectory; unlike other of their good bowlers who all of sort of "burst into the scene" with excellent performances soon after their Debut, Ajmal has been a lot more anonymous in earlier times, only getting better with time

I remember watching him live few years back and he seemed like a run of the mill offspinner; someone brought in to fill the obligatory spinner slot, but who was not a patch on their fast bowlers or previous spinners.

ajmal is an interesting case since he wasn't that good at all early on in his international career, he's making up for it now though, if he continues in this fashion he will be one of the greatest spinners all time.

[simon]

thanks for the stats Gowza.
There are reasons why we should be happy(not saying we are not happy) about where Shakib stands as a bowler even if he is behind Ajmol.

First of all Sakib is an alrounder and not an allrounder who bowls more & occasionally bats, he has to practice both batting and bowling equally whereas Ajmol has only his bowling to focus on.

2ndly Pak is a much better side with some amazing bowlers, Gul,Afridi, Tanvir ,even Hafeez are bowlers who can create lot of pressure,and that makes Ajmal's work a lot easier.

Thirdly the lack of matches for BD specially Tests, in test a spinner gets so many overs to bowl, unfortunately our Sakib isn't getting that.

[Gowza]

what i like about the stats is it shows that shakib is ahead of swann who a lot of people think is the best spinner atm, so it says something that shakib beats him in stats.

[khanbhai]

^^
Swann does not get to play in spinner friendly conditions as much any spinner from the sub-continent.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by khanbhai
^^
Swann does not get to play in spinner friendly conditions as much any spinner from the sub-continent.

yes well when you look at things more closely between shakib and swann things are a bit different but shakib in test matches has done better outside of asia than he has done in asia, better than swann. the problem with comparing shakib to other spinners in tests though is that he plays so few matches and the others play so many more so their sample size is a lot easier to take without asking what ifs. swann has done a lot better than shakib in one-dayers outside of asia though.

ajmal however has done well outside asia in one-dayers and tests, a lot better in one-dayers but stil at least as well as swann has done.

[simon]

ITs raining sixes dude

[simon]

Ajmol re khaya fello re

&st fifty came from 40 something and 2nd fifty in 15 balls.

[Dilscoop]

Originally Posted by simon
ITs raining sixes dude

literally.

Take that Fuzmal. Switchhit, 6! Massive.

[simon]

don't miss it

[zinatf]

Aussie! Aussie!! Aussie!!! Oi. Oi. Oi.

[BrianLara7]

lol, always knew pak bowling is overrated, its very good but when you take the attack to them like maxwell and hussey did in odi's its not all that. Aus should have won last t20 if it wasnt for one run and won this series.

[Dilscoop]

This sim is so real. Warner was failing in real life in the MLC, so was he in this PakvAus Sim series. He almost scored a 100 last night, made it rain, and now the sim is doing that too!!

I hope he gets a 100. He is slowing down, but he should just keep going.

[Dilscoop]

NOooh!! Way to ruin the fun Pakistan! >.<

[simon]

Originally Posted by BrianLara7
lol, always knew pak bowling is overrated, its very good but when you take the attack to them like maxwell and hussey did in odi's its not all that. Aus should have won last t20 if it wasnt for one run and won this series.

come on man, Afridi,Ajmol,Gul ,Hafeez altogether are the best attack u can get;

But I do agree if u attack them they get kind a lost, like Kohli in Asia cup made Ajmol & Gul look ordinary.
Our Sakib,Nasir r pretty good at handling them too.

[Yasin.]

Absolute carnage from Australia. Good for Pakistan though I had say. They are having excellent preparation for T20 world cup.

Hammered the Aussies in the first match. A thriller in the second match. And what should be a decent total to chase tonight. Aussies not looking all that bad all of a sudden.

[simon]

era switch hit koirao six-four marey, ar amra switch off koirao out hoi

[BrianLara7]

Originally Posted by simon
come on man, Afridi,Ajmol,Gul ,Hafeez altogether are the best attack u can get;

But I do agree if u attack them they get kind a lost, like Kohli in Asia cup made Ajmol & Gul look ordinary.
Our Sakib,Nasir r pretty good at handling them too.

its overrated in the sense that its not as great as some fans claim.. if it was they wouldnt have lost the odi series against aus and get whitewashed against eng and even losing series 3-1 against struggling SL. Still a very good bowling attack but definitely can be demolished if Ajmal is not on top of his game, without ajmal its nothing extra ordinary as hussey, kohli maxwell have shown

[zinatf]

Would love if Aus manages the total to 190!

[Rabz]

Aussies made a mess of it.

[zinatf]

168 not bad...come on Australia! You can do it!

[simon]

very ordinary finish,should have been 180 +
they will be very disappointed if Pak wins it as at one stage it looked they will score 190+

[simon]

didn't see such western western cheerleaders in Dubai before

[simon]

lol,the way Pak chasing it so far if it was BD the commies would go all hunting.

[firstlane]

I have tremendous faith on Starc, Cummins & Pattinson trio. when they are fit they have the potential to form world's best pace attack. They already made bowlers like Hilfenhaus, Siddle & Harris look ordinary.

[Sohel]

Great to see Cummins back in form again. What an incredible young bowler already at 19! Provided he stays injury free, I see him becoming pacier and more lethal over the next 6-7 years and dominating the sport as its premier paceman.