Pipe-dreamed (without the pipe) Bangladesh Test XI 2007-2008

[Beamer]

Sohel NR

I agree with you about Alok. I am one of his biggest fans, or should I say, was his biggest fan. Nevertheless, technically he is of superior quality, offers the straightest of bat, his hits stay hit, and can rotate the strike beautifully down the order in one dayers. To go with that , he can bowl decent leg spin, something that can improve with a lot of practice or in real game situations if given the chance. Here in BC, I had my fair share of passionate arguements with felow members virulently opposed to Alok a few years ago. But, there are a few backers of him as well, me being the number 1 along with Sham. It is heartening to see him scoring a few big knocks this year domestically. With his talent, and age on his side, no one should say never when it comes to Alok Kapali. Just a bit of fortune smiling on him again and you might see him in the national fold.

[Sohel]

alok's exclusion despite back to back 100s in domestic cricket is baffling to say the least. first faruikka & co. turned this bowler into an all-rounder with expectations not equally applied to legitimate batsmen, and then dropped him from squads still packed with far worse performers neither alok's youth nor his natural talents as a flighty strike bowler, a batsman who can middle it early because he sees the ball early AND effortlessly rotate the strike, and an exceptional fielder. interesting eh...

[Beamer]

..add to that, he was promoted/demoted in the batting line, when he played, almost whimsically which unsettled him to no means. I do agree that he probably hurt his cause himself a bit. He was lacking a bit of mental strength. We keep hearing how much we lack a quality offie or a leg spinner. Well, leaving the quality part apart, he is and was always a good leg spinner ( hattrick to his name in test ) and our defensive captains lacked the courage to utilize a leg spinner properly. In any case, batting talent alone, he can walk into BD side. Spin is just an added bonus. Oh by the way, he just happen to be the best point fielder we had along with Rajin. He needs to knuckle down and play as many big innings as possible in domestics. If he does that, it will be pretty hard to ignore him. Its really upto him now to fight back.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by Beamer
..add to that, he was promoted/demoted in the batting line, when he played, almost whimsically which unsettled him to no means. I do agree that he probably hurt his cause himself a bit. He was lacking a bit of mental strength. We keep hearing how much we lack a quality offie or a leg spinner. Well, leaving the quality part apart, he is and was always a good leg spinner ( hattrick to his name in test ) and our defensive captains lacked the courage to utilize a leg spinner properly. In any case, batting talent alone, he can walk into BD side. Spin is just an added bonus. Oh by the way, he just happen to be the best point fielder we had along with Rajin. He needs to knuckle down and play as many big innings as possible in domestics. If he does that, it will be pretty hard to ignore him. Its really upto him now to fight back.

ditto compadre...

[rah]

Originally Posted by bd_fan_from_india
tamim iqbal
nafis iqbal
md ashraful
sakibul hasan
rajin saleh
alok kapali
mushfiqur rahim
mashrafe mortaza
md rafique(if still there)/enamul haque
abdur razzaq
shahadat hossain/dollar mahmud

brothas opening lool
and wot is da point of dis thread

[Beamer]

Your dream line up ( test I assume ) is pretty close to mine. However, I would love to see Aftab muscling his way in. This boy needs to play hours and hours of spin bowling to improve that aspect of his game. Temperament is a major factor with him. My future line up looks something like this :
1NI ( you said enough about him ) 2 SN 3 Aftab ( looking for a dominating batsman here. A test no.3 must attack , by that I mean attack by playing high percentage shots. Also, has to be able to play pacers well, which he does, have a sound tech- he does- when its time to defend. Mushy maybe a little bit to subdued for no.3 ) 4. Ash 5. Sakib ( solid bat/spin ) 6. Alok ( aggressive bat if thats what is needed, can defend-good tech- to play the secnd new ball/ leg spin- much needed variety ) 7. Mushy ( can anchor the lower middle order and tail ) 8 Mash 9 Rafiq 10. Shahdat 11 Enam.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by Beamer
Your dream line up ( test I assume ) is pretty close to mine. However, I would love to see Aftab muscling his way in. This boy needs to play hours and hours of spin bowling to improve that aspect of his game. Temperament is a major factor with him. My future line up looks something like this :
1NI ( you said enough about him ) 2 SN 3 Aftab ( looking for a dominating batsman here. A test no.3 must attack , by that I mean attack by playing high percentage shots. Also, has to be able to play pacers well, which he does, have a sound tech- he does- when its time to defend. Mushy maybe a little bit to subdued for no.3 ) 4. Ash 5. Sakib ( solid bat/spin ) 6. Alok ( aggressive bat if thats what is needed, can defend-good tech- to play the secnd new ball/ leg spin- much needed variety ) 7. Mushy ( can anchor the lower middle order and tail ) 8 Mash 9 Rafiq 10. Shahdat 11 Enam.

i see your point. until we have the quality 4-day domestic we DON'T have at the moment, the real thing may be the only opportunity he and tamim have to evolve temperamentally, and technically against the spin...

in order to positively impact their confidence levels, they ARE still very young, i'd have aftab and tamim play 4-day matches with BD-A and U-23 for the experience, before trying them out against zimbabwe first... then ease them in below # 5...

[sheikh]

Dream line up?
This is poor.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by sheikh
Dream line up?
This is poor.

please enlighten us with your line-up... that's the purpose of this thread...

[IanW]

1. Nafis Iqbal Khan - talent, temperament - Batsman
2. Shahriar Nafis Ahmed - scored a ton against Australia. What more do you want ? - Batsman
3. Md. Ashraful Matin (Captain) - very talented, leadership - Batsman/Part-time Bowler
4. Rajin Saleh
5. Aftab Ahmed
6. Shakib Al-Hasan (Vice- Captain) - talent, temperament, leadership - Batsman/Bowler
7. Mushfiqur Rahim - talent, temperament - Batsman/Keeper
8. Mashrafe Bin-Murtaza - talent, gumption - Strike Bowler/Batsman
9. Md. Rafique - talent, intelligence - Strike Bowler/Batsman
10. Shahadat Hossein - talented but still has ways to go, gumption - Possible Strike Bowler
11. Syed Rasel - useful hard worker, accurate, can swing it both ways - Bowler

This side is better balanced 2 quicks, a medium pacer and 2 SLAs - if you have a slow pitch, then you play Enamul Haque over Rasel or Shahadat.

Batting goes down to 7, with 8 and 9 able to hit a bit.

I'll take Aftab over Alok any day.

Ian Whitchurch

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by IanW
1. Nafis Iqbal Khan - talent, temperament - Batsman
2. Shahriar Nafis Ahmed - scored a ton against Australia. What more do you want ? - Batsman
3. Md. Ashraful Matin (Captain) - very talented, leadership - Batsman/Part-time Bowler
4. Rajin Saleh
5. Aftab Ahmed
6. Shakib Al-Hasan (Vice- Captain) - talent, temperament, leadership - Batsman/Bowler
7. Mushfiqur Rahim - talent, temperament - Batsman/Keeper
8. Mashrafe Bin-Murtaza - talent, gumption - Strike Bowler/Batsman
9. Md. Rafique - talent, intelligence - Strike Bowler/Batsman
10. Shahadat Hossein - talented but still has ways to go, gumption - Possible Strike Bowler
11. Syed Rasel - useful hard worker, accurate, can swing it both ways - Bowler

This side is better balanced 2 quicks, a medium pacer and 2 SLAs - if you have a slow pitch, then you play Enamul Haque over Rasel or Shahadat.

Batting goes down to 7, with 8 and 9 able to hit a bit.

I'll take Aftab over Alok any day.

Ian Whitchurch

hmmm... serious difference of opinion on rajin's inclusion & alok's exclusion. we don't necessarily disagree on aftab as long as it's not right now and at the expense of alok. shahriar nafees can't continue to cash-in on the famous ton against australia - as amazing an accomplishment as it is - in light of his recent inability to see anything other than poofballs hitting his bat. still, i hope you're right about him and i'm wrong. thanks...

[auntu]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
i think younger players - unless really talented like ash, mash, shakzie, the iqbal brothers, enamul haque jr, and i dare say, junaid siddique - should be brought into the national limelight after playing a predetermined number of 1-day and 4-day domestic cricket with separate, predetermined performance standards for each form of the game. if they measure up according to those standards, they should debut first) in bd-a, and second) in a watered-down national squad playing the likes of zimbabwe, kenya and good associate sides like ireland, scotland and holland. they should be drafted into the national side the only after proving themselves there...

cant agree more than u. but im allways wondering why we have allways era of some players one time basis. like when alok was playing he was rocking. straight bat, soft hand, sensible head, can play vital role in middle order, potential leggy. i mean really a player to have in ur side but he just like stepped down from that performance. Then comes Shahriar Nafis (surprisingly BC fan dosen't like him as far as im concern, can anyone wxplain that?) who can implement no doubt, also gone out of form. In between was nafis iqbal. now sakibul hasn, tamim iqbal. aftab is also in the line of fire as far as test match is concern. so what happen? i think we r not giving them enough time to settle down. unless extreamly talented like mash (u should agree with me) let our 1st class tournament be the proving ground. doing good regular basis then can get in A team and as sohel NR said can proceed. playing for national team is ultimate success for a player make it a standard to work hard to reach. demien martyn, stuwart law, darrel leyman there are lots of example in assie cricket.

otherwise when the real talents are playing and going in the wind just strugling it's not good for our cricket.

the 11 i agreed with because it's playing on slow, low pitch. when it's bouncy how could player like jo can adjust? selection should also make according to the type of players implementing ability.

what's ur shout?

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by auntu
cant agree more than u. but im allways wondering why we have allways era of some players one time basis. like when alok was playing he was rocking. straight bat, soft hand, sensible head, can play vital role in middle order, potential leggy. i mean really a player to have in ur side but he just like stepped down from that performance. Then comes Shahriar Nafis (surprisingly BC fan dosen't like him as far as im concern, can anyone wxplain that?) who can implement no doubt, also gone out of form. In between was nafis iqbal. now sakibul hasn, tamim iqbal. aftab is also in the line of fire as far as test match is concern. so what happen? i think we r not giving them enough time to settle down. unless extreamly talented like mash (u should agree with me) let our 1st class tournament be the proving ground. doing good regular basis then can get in A team and as sohel NR said can proceed. playing for national team is ultimate success for a player make it a standard to work hard to reach. demien martyn, stuwart law, darrel leyman there are lots of example in assie cricket.

otherwise when the real talents are playing and going in the wind just strugling it's not good for our cricket.

the 11 i agreed with because it's playing on slow, low pitch. when it's bouncy how could player like jo can adjust? selection should also make according to the type of players implementing ability.

what's ur shout?

you're right about developing an aussie slash lankan type domestic structure being the most efficient way to go where we need to be. the passion's there, so's the money... hopefully the WILL can catch up soon enough... a variety of wickets would be a HUGE plus...

[zahid]

Ashrafulrey shobai Matin koy ken?

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by zahid
Ashrafulrey shobai Matin koy ken?

Eta tar puro nam...

[sheikh]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
please enlighten us with your line-up... that's the purpose of this thread...

Well.. I am quite happy with the way our selectors are doing their job in these days..so I ll rather pick my eleven from the current squad..it may be as follows:

1.Javed
2.Nafees
3.Mehrab
4.Bashar
5.Ashraful
6.Sakib
7.Pilot
8.Mashrafee
9.Rafique
10.Enamul
11.Rajib

If they select Rajin ahead of Mehrab...I wont mind either...but the batting order will be Bashar at 3 and Rajin at 6. You can find the remaining batting positions from the list above.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by sheikh
Well.. I am quite happy with the way our selectors are doing their job in these days..so I ll rather pick my eleven from the current squad..it may be as follows:

1.Javed
2.Nafees
3.Mehrab
4.Bashar
5.Ashraful
6.Sakib
7.Pilot
8.Mashrafee
9.Rafique
10.Enamul
11.Rajib

If they select Rajin ahead of Mehrab...I wont mind either...but the batting order will be Bashar at 3 and Rajin at 6. You can find the remaining batting positions from the list above.

huge differences of opinion here, but i hope you're right. i agree with you about rajin over mehrab given the circumstances by the way. but i'll take mehrab over golla any day ...

anyway, time to get behing the team we have... GO TIGERS!!!

[sheikh]

Just one more thing to add with...may be RAZZAK deserved a place ahead of Enamul in the squad. We did the same mistake with Rafique (declaring him an ODI specialist) in our early days of test cricket.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by sheikh
Just one more thing to add with...may be RAZZAK deserved a place ahead of Enamul in the squad. We did the same mistake with Rafique (declaring him an ODI specialist) in our early days of test cricket.

enam's the only deshi bowler who can turn the ball with great rotation on its own axis, great loop too. a pleasure to watch. razz'll get in sooner than we think. like rafique, he uses his head to mafipulate flight and pace to get wickets...

[cricket_pagol]

I think Razzaq will be a great test bowler, just like Rafique.

Enamul was chosen ahead of Razzaq, because he enamul is more attacking and offers more variation to the overall attack.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by cricket_pagol
I think Razzaq will be a great test bowler, just like Rafique.

Enamul was chosen ahead of Razzaq, because he enamul is more attacking and offers more variation to the overall attack.

ditto...