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January 14, 2008, 05:34 AM
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Why are we loosing consistently?
- No longer version cricket in school level and age group cricket.
- No regular cricket league in Divisional cities and District towns.
- Lack of sporting wickets.
- The main three cricket tournaments e.g. Dhaka Premier Cricket League, Damal Summer Cricket, Star Summer Cricket Tournament (Ctg) become irregular and lost its importance and attraction.
- BCB mainly focused with national team and international cricket.
- Non existence of any regional Cricket body.
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January 14, 2008, 05:49 AM
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Lack of experience & consistant batting order
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January 14, 2008, 06:19 AM
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Why are we loosing consistantly?
Because we are very consistent (IMHO, no.1 infact) in losing.
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January 14, 2008, 07:28 AM
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Players are suffering from a common problem call mental blockage and acute nervousness. They fear failing badly because of high expectations, and exactly this is what happens. I guess when they are walking out to bat, their knees are shaking, their minds go blank and voila! it starts all over again. They need a team psychologist to help them. I hope Coach Siddons realizes the depth of this problem and do something quickly.
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January 14, 2008, 07:42 AM
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I would say it's a difficult time for Bangladesh team... the old generation has gone (Omar, Bashar, Mashud and Rafique) and most of the new ones are still too young and inexperienced for international cricket... I guess/hope time will help them.
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January 14, 2008, 08:14 AM
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stop recruiting 18-19 year olds
Yes, another reason is the selectors rely too much on under 19 performers. But they are not all that special, they have only performed well against zim and kenya, which gives a false sense of success. The selectors should focus on NCL performance, and not just one season of good performance there, but more consistent performers. Perhaps they should attend those games more than going on foreign trips.
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Originally Posted by pial
- No longer version cricket in school level and age group cricket.
- No regular cricket league in Divisional cities and District towns.
- Lack of sporting wickets.
- The main three cricket tournaments e.g. Dhaka Premier Cricket League, Damal Summer Cricket, Star Summer Cricket Tournament (Ctg) become irregular and lost its importance and attraction.
- BCB mainly focused with national team and international cricket.
- Non existence of any regional Cricket body.
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January 14, 2008, 09:38 AM
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Among all the inconsistencies, our players are trying their best to maintain one little consistency.
Too bad it involves us loosing.
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January 14, 2008, 10:44 AM
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v hardly play longer version cricket
v hav 2 many young players in the team
v keep changing players often
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January 14, 2008, 10:55 AM
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even if we had all those we should have lost. see nz, SL how long they took even with all their setups. There r not substitute for NTL game experience period no matter how good your infrastructure are.
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2. Abdur Razzak: P Utseya caught; RW Price lbw; CB Mpofu lbw
3. Rubel Hossain: Corey J A bowled; BB McCullum caught; JDS Neesham caught
4. Taijul Islam: T Panyangara bowled; J Nyumbu lbw; TL Chatara bowled
5. Taskin Ahmed: DAS Gunaratne c Soumya; Lakmal c fiz; Pradeep bowled
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January 14, 2008, 11:43 AM
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Because we are not ready for test yet. Win 'consistently' in ODI by completing 50 overs and come back and play test. If you ask me Bangladesh should be taken off their test status. Sorry to be harsh but thats the reality! We are just bouchering cricket.
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January 14, 2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Roni_uk
Because we are not ready for test yet. Win 'consistently' in ODI by completing 50 overs and come back and play test. If you ask me Bangladesh should be taken off their test status. Sorry to be harsh but thats the reality! We are just bouchering cricket.
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While I agree we were given Test status a tad too early, I think we're ready now. No one in the world questions the talent available in Bangladesh. All that's needed is playing with top teams so we can improve. In the midst of all this gloom, we did have a record breaking opening partnership between two debutants against NZ in NZ conditions. These are the baby steps we are taking that shows improvement. Playing against Kenya and Zimbabwe won't do us much good, as I believe we are at their level, if not better. Just like our batsmen in Tests need patience, so do the fans. We now have a young group of cricketers and we need to nurture them.
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January 14, 2008, 02:08 PM
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The reason we always do bad because we keep changing the squad for every series. We have to presist with the same squad for at least 1 year to become a good team. One or two changes is okay.
Our selectors don't pick the right players for the right team and then throw them out of the squad when they do bad.
This is also one of the main reason why we are loosing consistently.
Mr Dave Whatmore used to shuffle the whole squad so consistently, which wasn't good at all. One day Ashraful used to bat at 5, other day at 7 or 1.
THe new coach is seems to be better and hoping to see a performing team within 6 months. Inshallah.
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January 14, 2008, 02:20 PM
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Because we are not good enough. Na chahite jare paowa jai.....
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January 14, 2008, 04:00 PM
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i felll that our player can play big innings such as like tamim zunaeed ,ashraful, or aftab . i think they just need more confidence . they have to serious when they go for bat .
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January 14, 2008, 08:43 PM
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Because we just aren't good enough to play test. By the way, it's spelled "losing".
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January 14, 2008, 08:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pial
- No longer version cricket in school level and age group cricket.
- No regular cricket league in Divisional cities and District towns.
- Lack of sporting wickets.
- The main three cricket tournaments e.g. Dhaka Premier Cricket League, Damal Summer Cricket, Star Summer Cricket Tournament (Ctg) become irregular and lost its importance and attraction.
- BCB mainly focused with national team and international cricket.
- Non existence of any regional Cricket body.
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You have mentioned some good points and I completely agree with you. BCB is focusing only in national team but they should arrange domestic cricket leagues regular basis and make good sporting wickets in every stadium.
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January 14, 2008, 09:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pial
- No longer version cricket in school level and age group cricket.
- No regular cricket league in Divisional cities and District towns.
- Lack of sporting wickets.
- The main three cricket tournaments e.g. Dhaka Premier Cricket League, Damal Summer Cricket, Star Summer Cricket Tournament (Ctg) become irregular and lost its importance and attraction.
- BCB mainly focused with national team and international cricket.
- Non existence of any regional Cricket body.
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hopefully this time we will see something good as much of talk is going on between BCB and the clubs.
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January 14, 2008, 10:25 PM
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I wonder why they stopped sending teams to Ranji Trophy.
And as a reciprocal gesture, they can as well invite a team from Ranji to play in their domestic league.
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January 14, 2008, 10:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Sahastra
I wonder why they stopped sending teams to Ranji Trophy.
And as a reciprocal gesture, they can as well invite a team from Ranji to play in their domestic league.
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It was Duleep Trophy where a Bangladeshi team took part (not Ranji). Our dismissal performance in that tournament against Indian regional sides made such bad publicity that BCB did not dare to seek another entry there. BCCI also has not shown interest to invite us for another domestic league since then.
However, I think BCB should seek entries into Moin-ud-Dowla Gold Cup, Buchi Babu Tournament, and MRF Cup (tournaments that are designed for development sides from different Indian states) and send our academy side there.
We should also arrange a series between Bangladesh-A and Bengal yearly.
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January 15, 2008, 02:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pial
- No longer version cricket in school level and age group cricket.
- No regular cricket league in Divisional cities and District towns.
- Lack of sporting wickets.
- The main three cricket tournaments e.g. Dhaka Premier Cricket League, Damal Summer Cricket, Star Summer Cricket Tournament (Ctg) become irregular and lost its importance and attraction.
- BCB mainly focused with national team and international cricket.
- Non existence of any regional Cricket body.
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I would really like to thank you for pointing out the main reasons that's causing the poor performence. Also i think our players are mentally strong enough.. that's y mayb they should see spsychiatrist
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January 15, 2008, 06:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roni_uk
Because we are not ready for test yet. Win 'consistently' in ODI by completing 50 overs and come back and play test. If you ask me Bangladesh should be taken off their test status. Sorry to be harsh but thats the reality! We are just bouchering cricket.
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Exactly, a very honest opinion. Bangladesh simply isn't good enough. More A tours needed and those sides should comprise a bulk from the national side. The national players should swallow their pride and take part in A matches.
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January 15, 2008, 06:46 AM
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we are trying to be consistant. may be its loosing streak but soon we will start wining and there will be no stopping.
we all know why are we loosing and whats needed to be done. Now somebody should take the initiative to fix those. Good pitches in NCL could be the first step. Academy with good trained coaches for every Division and then in district level. There are many players in NCL will not get any good matches for next couple of months.
And most off all they should start paying more in NCL so that players could start to take cricket as profession
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January 15, 2008, 10:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roni_uk
Because we are not ready for test yet. Win 'consistently' in ODI by completing 50 overs and come back and play test. If you ask me Bangladesh should be taken off their test status. Sorry to be harsh but thats the reality! We are just bouchering cricket.
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If you think BD is killing TEST cricket than why don't you stop watching it and watch some one you think r up there like (PAK or IND). The thing is TEST STATUS was not given on based of how good the players r. its based on the future and infrastructure. So saying we should stop playing cause we can't compete is worthless thing to say. So what we become 20th in 100 meter running in Olympic qualification we shouldn't run at all, or our football team can't qualify for WC so don't have a football games at all. If we start following that then only chess and shooting should be allowed in the country.
I am very much frustrated with the team but thinking that we shouldn't play test only ODI will not solve anything. remember we get all the money to hire all these coaches and improvements on cricket is done because we have the status.
So please don't make statement like that with understanding the consequences.
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3. Rubel Hossain: Corey J A bowled; BB McCullum caught; JDS Neesham caught
4. Taijul Islam: T Panyangara bowled; J Nyumbu lbw; TL Chatara bowled
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January 15, 2008, 10:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roni_uk
Because we are not ready for test yet. Win 'consistently' in ODI by completing 50 overs and come back and play test. If you ask me Bangladesh should be taken off their test status. Sorry to be harsh but thats the reality! We are just bouchering cricket.
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thank you for your views but we are here to stay. it might be taking long but we are getting there.
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January 15, 2008, 10:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roni_uk
Because we are not ready for test yet. Win 'consistently' in ODI by completing 50 overs and come back and play test. If you ask me Bangladesh should be taken off their test status. Sorry to be harsh but thats the reality! We are just bouchering cricket.
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Yes, an honest opinion indeed. However, I'm not sure what you mean by "bouchering cricket", do you mean playing like the south african wicket keeper/batsman?! (sorry, couldn't resist)...
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