New Batsmen.....new faces

[Mridul]

We need some batsmen who are consistent in domestic league. There are some batsmen out there in Bangladesh who should get a call in national team based on their domestic average. Few of them are as follows:

Anisur Rahman

Nuruzzaman

Masumud Dowla [For ODI]

[Mahmood]

We tried that before, does not work. Remember Shejan?

The problem is, there is a huge difference between dhaka league and international cricket. These players need to go to the A team and get busy, catching up the gap. Then they should come to the national team.

Sadly, BCB dont understand the importence of Domestic Cricket, A team, and keeping cricketers busy at the field.

[Ehsan]

Agree with Rajputro bhai.

[fwullah]

Also, remember Foisal Hossain, a more recent in-form player, who just hasn't clicked at the International level.

[bourny3]

Rajputro you are spot on. WHy wont they listen. everyone knows it.

[Tehsin]

I liked this one from Billah (posted in the Rajin Saleh thread):

billah
posted on 13-12-2004 at 06:37

James: Remember your sig? He used to play very bravely. He, along with many others in the team, have been thrown in the deep end, where little by little, these guys metamorphed into this. It is true, he no longer plays boldly. I remember his gritty innings, I remember Hannan's brave plays also. Repeated losses have clearly taken a toll on their psyche. If we are not careful nurturing them at young age, the same can happen to Nafis, Aftab and others.

These same guys, when they played local, national leagues, in the least, they had fun. Well, the continuous running, training, flying, media circus, blame game and added with a heavy dose of defeats; this is what produces a Hannan & Rajin & Alok. Their favorite game is no longer fun. Seemingly washed up, at a very young age. Give'em a little break, like we did with Ash, they bounce back nicely. Alok will most likely come back a better alrounder, may be Hannan will also.

Presently, with such limited options, BCB has been riding these young people very hard.

[billah]

Regardless, BCB should be more proactive in finding & training batting talents. I would like to see Mohammed Sharif tried here in the mix. Remember what he said after is 9 ball 29, for the 3 years he wasn't able to bowl, he kept on practicing his batting real hard. Someone coached him also. If he can add just 20 runs, it should be better than Bashar and Javed's combined total. And he bowls a decent medium pace also. We've got to keep an open mind about limited experimentation.

[sangeet]

Sharif's recent performance surely deserves an attention from the selectors. Will they (selectors) be brave enough to do this? May be not in the test, but how about in the coming ODI's. We will see soon.

[PoorFan]

I vote for him ( Sharif ) both in test and ODI.
If Mushfique can play in next test, then why not him?

Edited on, December 13, 2004, 1:04 PM GMT, by PoorFan.

[Fazal]

Originally posted by fwullah
Also, remember Foisal Hossain, a more recent in-form player, who just hasn't clicked at the International level.

How can he "click" or "fail to click", if he is not given enough chance? How can a player prove his case by merely sitting in the bench as the 13th player in the team?

[Fazal]

Originally posted by PoorFan
I vote for him ( Sharif ) both in test and ODI.
If Mushfique can play in next test, then why not him?

Edited on, December 13, 2004, 1:04 PM GMT, by PoorFan.

Agree with you!!

[Ahmed_B]

some faces who r more prominant among the new:

Foisal (yes i expect him to shine back), Dhiman Ghosh, Nizamuddin.

but we need strong domestic structure to season these talents.. otherwise they will face the same humiliation as the likes of hannan/alok

u just can't learn to ride a bycyle one day.. n next day start drivin a monster-truck!!..

[AsifTheManRahman]

in my opinion, a player is only fit for international cricket if his domestic average is something around the 50 mark. therefore none of our national team batsmen are fit for international cricket.

[bhobishshot]

Originally posted by AsifTheManRahman
in my opinion, a player is only fit for international cricket if his domestic average is something around the 50 mark. therefore none of our national team batsmen are fit for international cricket.

I would add a minimum of 50 first class match experience to it.

Edited on, December 14, 2004, 2:34 AM GMT, by bhobishshot.

[FaltuRidwanBhai]

Originally posted by bourny3
Rajputro you are spot on. WHy wont they listen. everyone knows it.

they have a lot of personal matters to take care of. moreover, it never seems to me that cricket is actually their primary consideretion. it seems to me that they only do their cricket work at their leisure times.

[AsifTheManRahman]

arey ridwan bhai...ghorer chele abar ghore fire giyechen?

[crickwizard]

they should also find BD ppl overseas. We have few bd batsmen in Seattle, probably can play better than our top order (at least we could beat Canada)

[Huda]

Originally posted by Rajputro
We tried that before, does not work. Remember Shejan?

The problem is, there is a huge difference between dhaka league and international cricket. These players need to go to the A team and get busy, catching up the gap. Then they should come to the national team.

Sadly, BCB dont understand the importence of Domestic Cricket, A team, and keeping cricketers busy at the field.

that is exactly the point many journalists are makin, u cannot put a boy into thesea unless he has learnt to swim agaisnt the tides, as sated by the indian journalist. we need to bridge the gap, quickly or we will fade out.

[rafiq]

Originally posted by bhobishshot

I would add a minimum of 50 first class match experience to it.

Edited on, December 14, 2004, 2:34 AM GMT, by bhobishshot.

50 first class matches?? DO you know how many they play each year? A handful if they are lucky. By the time they get to 50 first class matches in the domestic league, they will have retired.

[Sami]

Its really funny how we keep suggesting the very obvious problems and BCB somehow 'fails' to realise them....

We being away from cricket (most of us havent even played cricket in quite a while) can somehow get the feeling of the problems but BCB being in the thick of things do not take the right actions in the right time... its quite hopeless...

The mindset of the current players are that of a loser. And the amount of completely inexperienced players in the side is alarming... I consider rajin as inexperienced... the only experienced players in the side are:

Rafique
Javed
Bashar
Pilot

ar keu na.... 11 ta player er moddhe 7 ta player jokhon isnt ready meantally to play the big game its really hard to get positive results...

Like everyone says the transition to the national team for most of the players were not correct. You cant just throw in a completely inexperienced guy in the team and expect big scores or heaps of wickets.

We say so and so player is doing well... the measure for a batsman who is "doing well" is 20-30 odd runs per innings... and that by no means shud define a batsman. Even Ashraful isnt consistent and sadly he is the most consistent batsman in the BD team rit now besides the slogging tailenders... Pilot is more or less consistent. You dont expect centuries from a WK who come in at number 5 or 6... 30-40 odd runs are good and the occassional 50s... and pilot has been doing it relatively consistently...

and as for the news batsmen.... we expect a lot from them right away. To start with we must realise that they havent been seasoned against good fast bowling, or good spin bowling... come to think of it they havent been tested by any good bowling at all... be it u-19 or domestic level... when they play international cricket they face bowlers like lee, Shoaib, Murali, vettori, pathan and zaheer... these guys are good... if u expect big scores rit away that aint happening... Our home pitches arent meantfor good fast bowling... we cant play bounce... and this "bounce" factor gets the best of most of our batsman...

well i can go on ranting all day... but who is listening...? tehisn bhai, raj bhai and amra shunay to labh nai... jader shunay labh ase ora jodi shunto taile kajay deebe....