BD opening Bowling pair: Your verdict

Dawah · #1 March 18, 2008, 03:35 PM

Lets find out from devoted BD fans whom they want to see as opening bowling pair in ODI. I would request, you justify your choice with proper reasoning and logic, not with some immature and emotional outburst like Ashraful.

Tigers_eye · #2 March 18, 2008, 03:38 PM

If I were the horta-korta Mash-Rasel, Rasel-Shahadat or Mash-shahadat (rotation).

Ashraful do not have any immature and emotional outburst. The team management has devised a plan and they are sticking to it.

WarWolf · #3 March 18, 2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
If I were the horta-korta Mash-Rasel, Rasel-Shahadat or Mash-shahadat (rotation).

Ashraful do not have any immature and emotional outburst. The team management has devised a plan and they are sticking to it.

I wonder whose plan is this one. JS?

Nafis_BD · #4 March 18, 2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
If I were the horta-korta Mash-Rasel, Rasel-Shahadat or Mash-shahadat (rotation).

Ashraful do not have any immature and emotional outburst. The team management has devised a plan and they are sticking to it.

I agree with that.Now that Rafique is retired I think it makes room for an additional pacer although I would have still liked Rafique there. If you ask for only 2 pacers then my choice would automatically be Mash + Rasel. I feel these two would be a great combination of fast and medium fast. It is pretty effective too because it is pretty hard to adjust with a fast bowler at one end and a slower one on the other end!!

But whatever it is Rasel has to stay in the team unless there is any emergency or injury or something.

Shehwar · #5 March 18, 2008, 03:46 PM

Mash - Rasel.....Rasel has to be there...no matter what...He brings in the variation and he swings the ball (both ways at times!).....And he sticks to the basics...Line and Length....We must not waste this guy by keeping him on the sideline...

irteja · #6 March 18, 2008, 04:16 PM

mash - rasel

Beamer · #7 March 18, 2008, 04:21 PM

Whats there to poll here? The two best opening bowlers by far for BD in ODI's has been Mash-Rasel combo.

Mahir · #8 March 18, 2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beamer
Whats there to poll here? The two best opening bowlers by far for BD in ODI's has been Mash-Rasel combo.

Ditto.

What is actually the thought-process behind this management-devised strategy of opening with a spinner ? I'd be rather keen to know...

**Zunaid** · #9 March 18, 2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahir
Ditto.

What is actually the thought-process behind this management-devised strategy of opening with a spinner ? I'd be rather keen to know...

Lack of gray cells I believe.

Beamer · #10 March 18, 2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahir
Ditto.

What is actually the thought-process behind this management-devised strategy of opening with a spinner ? I'd be rather keen to know...

I have no clue as trying to read their minds is almost impossible for a sane person. I speculate that their smallish brains only retain a few 'catch phrase' myths( some facts ) about certain teams and they put it to work whenever the opportunity presents itself.

Such as : South Africa spin e kharap - amra oder tin spinner diye haraisy at WC- so, lets do it again, overload the team with spinners, and totally disregard the fact that a whole year has passed, and during that time SA has toured Pakistan and won a series. Something like that. I am sure they all shook their head in agreement and patted one another in the back for being so smart.

Similar thinking may also apply to Ireland. Ora spin khele na..etc etc..

SMHasan · #11 March 19, 2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Beamer
Whats there to poll here? The two best opening bowlers by far for BD in ODI's has been Mash-Rasel combo.

I always consider what is happening now rather than what has been happening. In recent times Mash has been out of form (to be precise since WC game against India), his mind is somewhere else not on the field, he does not look fit enough, he does not smile(not necessarily you have to smile but people can understand if you are depressed)and most importantly he hasn't been getting wickets.

Considering everything I won't pick Mashrafee right now. I want a disciplined bowler who gives 100% for the team. Thus I will pick Shahadat Hossein and from the other end I want Syed Rasel who will keep things tidy and checked. In this way we will have aggression from SH and Syed Rasel will back him up with his good economical stuff.

BTW I have heard that Mashrafee is having problem with his captain? Is it true?

al Furqaan · #12 March 18, 2008, 04:31 PM

agree with beamer 110%...dont have a clue what think tank is shooting for here...

Beamer · #13 March 18, 2008, 04:39 PM

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agree with beamer 110%...dont have a clue what think tank is shooting for here...

ami khub i chintito with this spin strategy.

Fazal · #14 March 18, 2008, 04:40 PM

I think they need to try Tamim as the opening FB bowler (along with Razzak) , so that they can drop Mash and add another batsman in the lineup.
Tamim had the FB type buildup as well as 'no-nonsense punch in your face' type mentaility.

Plus there should be anothe poll who should be the wicket keeper. If Junaid can do that job make shift wicket keeper, the there you go... another opportunity to further solidify our liquid batting strength.

Nafis_BD · #15 March 18, 2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazal
In think they need to try Tamim as the opening FB bowler (along with Razzak) , so that they can drop Mash and add another batsman in the lineup.
Tamim had the FB type buildup as well as 'no-nonsense punch in your face' type mentaility.

Plus there should be anothe poll who should be the wicket keeper. If Junaid can do that job make shift wicket keeper, the there you go... another opportunity to further solidify our liquid batting strength.

CLASSIC!!!!!!!

cricman · #16 March 18, 2008, 04:53 PM

If Mashrafe can Take Wickets Early than the Razzak + Mashrafe combo will work vs ANY TEAM but if Mashrafe's line and Length are off than were doomed to face a very Large Total therefore it's high risk. I wonder why they haven't tried the Rasel + Rajib opening pair with Masri bowling 1 down? It worked well vs Kenya.

But Obviously Rasel + Masri is the way to go

GuruTM · #17 March 18, 2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cricman
If Mashrafe can Take Wickets Early than the Razzak + Mashrafe combo will work vs ANY TEAM but if Mashrafe's line and Length are off than were doomed to face a very Large Total therefore it's high risk. I wonder why they haven't tried the Rasel + Rajib opening pair with Masri bowling 1 down? It worked well vs Kenya.

But Obviously Rasel + Masri is the way to go

This is the post this thread is waiting for. Mashrafee can be a failure any day against any team and we are in for a severe heart attack. I don't care if Razzak is opening the bowling with Mashrafee but we need a genuine pacer as a back up plan to that. As soon as there is a hiccup in the current combo we can switch back to the conventional two pacer opening combination. In that case we need Rasel or Shahadat. Question here is who are we going to drop to accomodate any of them? Who is the weakest link at the moment? My pick is Rokibul. Team management is going to use him lower down the order and he is a defensive batsman, so quite useless and we might not see him bat against Ireland at all. Anyway Rokibul is also a prime example of misuse by our team management. Against weaker teams like Ireland this is not getting exposed, but against stronger teams we need to bat him 3-5th batsman slot.

WarWolf · #18 March 18, 2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazal
I think they need to try Tamim as the opening FB bowler (along with Razzak) , so that they can drop Mash and add another batsman in the lineup.
Tamim had the FB type buildup as well as 'no-nonsense punch in your face' type mentaility.

Plus there should be anothe poll who should be the wicket keeper. If Junaid can do that job make shift wicket keeper, the there you go... another opportunity to further solidify our liquid batting strength.

Mamu tumi ekta maaaaal.

Andonder chote tumi koira bole fellam. Raag nien na.

Beamer · #19 March 18, 2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazal
I think they need to try Tamim as the opening FB bowler (along with Razzak) , so that they can drop Mash and add another batsman in the lineup.
Tamim had the FB type buildup as well as 'no-nonsense punch in your face' type mentaility.

Plus there should be anothe poll who should be the wicket keeper. If Junaid can do that job make shift wicket keeper, the there you go... another opportunity to further solidify our liquid batting strength.

Dhruvo · #20 March 18, 2008, 04:38 PM

I think the best bowling pair so far has been mashrafe and rasel,they were always ideal to work together,from one end mash keeps attcking with his in and out swingers and in the other end rasel plays defensive and keeps it tight with his medium pace and beautiful swing.

Beamer · #21 March 18, 2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhrubo
I think the best bowling pair so far has been mashrafe and rasel,they were always ideal to work together,from one end mash keeps attcking with his in and out swingers and in the other end rasel plays defensive and keeps it tight with his medium pace and beautiful swing.

Nicely put.

Dhruvo · #22 March 18, 2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Beamer
Nicely put.

thank you.

Nafis_BD · #23 March 18, 2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhrubo
I think the best bowling pair so far has been mashrafe and rasel,they were always ideal to work together,from one end mash keeps attcking with his in and out swingers and in the other end rasel plays defensive and keeps it tight with his medium pace and beautiful swing.

And don't forget his superb accuracy!!

Dhruvo · #24 March 18, 2008, 04:52 PM

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And don't forget his superb accuracy!!

oh yeah of course,surely no bowler can keep it tight without accuracy if not pace,eh?

Nafis_BD · #25 March 18, 2008, 07:32 PM

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oh yeah of course,surely no bowler can keep it tight without accuracy if not pace,eh?

Well keeping it tight is part of accuracy. You would need to bowl on the right line and length, keep corect pace and etc if you want to be accurate!!