BD opening Bowling pair: Your verdict

[Mahir]

Originally Posted by Beamer
Whats there to poll here? The two best opening bowlers by far for BD in ODI's has been Mash-Rasel combo.

Ditto.

What is actually the thought-process behind this management-devised strategy of opening with a spinner ? I'd be rather keen to know...

[Zunaid]

Originally Posted by Mahir
Ditto.

What is actually the thought-process behind this management-devised strategy of opening with a spinner ? I'd be rather keen to know...

Lack of gray cells I believe.

[GuruTM]

Originally Posted by cricman
If Mashrafe can Take Wickets Early than the Razzak + Mashrafe combo will work vs ANY TEAM but if Mashrafe's line and Length are off than were doomed to face a very Large Total therefore it's high risk. I wonder why they haven't tried the Rasel + Rajib opening pair with Masri bowling 1 down? It worked well vs Kenya.

But Obviously Rasel + Masri is the way to go

This is the post this thread is waiting for. Mashrafee can be a failure any day against any team and we are in for a severe heart attack. I don't care if Razzak is opening the bowling with Mashrafee but we need a genuine pacer as a back up plan to that. As soon as there is a hiccup in the current combo we can switch back to the conventional two pacer opening combination. In that case we need Rasel or Shahadat. Question here is who are we going to drop to accomodate any of them? Who is the weakest link at the moment? My pick is Rokibul. Team management is going to use him lower down the order and he is a defensive batsman, so quite useless and we might not see him bat against Ireland at all. Anyway Rokibul is also a prime example of misuse by our team management. Against weaker teams like Ireland this is not getting exposed, but against stronger teams we need to bat him 3-5th batsman slot.

[Nafis_BD]

Originally Posted by Dhrubo
oh yeah of course,surely no bowler can keep it tight without accuracy if not pace,eh?

Well keeping it tight is part of accuracy. You would need to bowl on the right line and length, keep corect pace and etc if you want to be accurate!!

[One World]

Opening with spin worked well for Deepak Patel, is this a by-product of our humiliating NZ tour? :amused:

Also this poll is pointless. Considering all three top pacers are in good form, it will largely depend on what type of wicket/condition we are playing in.

[zainab]

As Rasel is not in the 14 man squad, can they still ask him to play?

[Dhruvo]

Originally Posted by zainab
As Rasel is not in the 14 man squad, can they still ask him to play?

i think they can,they called in tushar imram in the test series against srilanka for the last match,so why not here ?

[Tokai]

rasel + mash

[pocha]

Mash + Shahadat

[Beamer]

Originally Posted by Mahir
Ditto.

What is actually the thought-process behind this management-devised strategy of opening with a spinner ? I'd be rather keen to know...

I have no clue as trying to read their minds is almost impossible for a sane person. I speculate that their smallish brains only retain a few 'catch phrase' myths( some facts ) about certain teams and they put it to work whenever the opportunity presents itself.

Such as : South Africa spin e kharap - amra oder tin spinner diye haraisy at WC- so, lets do it again, overload the team with spinners, and totally disregard the fact that a whole year has passed, and during that time SA has toured Pakistan and won a series. Something like that. I am sure they all shook their head in agreement and patted one another in the back for being so smart.

Similar thinking may also apply to Ireland. Ora spin khele na..etc etc..

[habfreak]

Depending on the conditions, Mashrfe-Shahadat or Mashrafe-Rasel.
in the long run I want to see Rasel learn learn to use the older ball so he can come in first change, and the way Shahadat has been improving that will give us a world class 3 seamer attack.

[cricketboy]

Mash+Rasel

[bulbul_fan]

mash and rasel ofcourse!

[U-17, 1999]

Originally Posted by habfreak
Depending on the conditions, Mashrfe-Shahadat or Mashrafe-Rasel.
in the long run I want to see Rasel learn learn to use the older ball so he can come in first change, and the way Shahadat has been improving that will give us a world class 3 seamer attack.

thats good idea

[Thunder]

definitely Mash & Rasel .. Mash's agility will be perfectly complimented by Rasel's accurate swing magic.

And it will another step ahead if Shahadat comes as a third pacer. Many teams will try to go hard on the third pacer and shahadat will be in a perfect place to pick up cheap wickets.

[AsifTheManRahman]

I hope this is a one-off thing that they are trying against relatively weaker players of spin as a stop-gap solution (not that I'm a huge fan of stop-gap solutions). Razzak is simply not opening material because he is pretty easy to dispatch when the ball is hard and shiny, as he seems to generate a lot of pace off the surface that the batsmen can use to find the boundary. Not being a great turner of the ball doesn't really help either.

Contrast that to the kind of magic that Rasel could generate with the untainted cherry, and Razzak's own genius with the older ball, and the opportunity cost is too high.

[zainab]

Sometimes Mash fails and it is Rasel who makes the first breakthrough. He got rid of the dangerous Chris Gayle in the 20/20 world cup and that changed the whole outcome of the match. Mash did not fire here at all.

I t should always be Mash and Rasel for ODIs.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by AsifTheManRahman
Contrast that to the kind of magic that Rasel could generate with the untainted cherry, and Razzak's own genius with the older ball, and the opportunity cost is too high.

Love those words, I wonder why ...

Generally speaking, guys who can "swing it both ways" are pretty handy with the tainted stuff as well ...

[crikfreak]

definitely mash and rasel... love both of them.... and somehow the mash+rasel combination seems amazing to me

[niroshu]

I m 4 mash & rasel

but ken je rasel re squad ei rakhlo na etai to bujlam na

eta rasel er valo ekta sujog silo fitness + confidence khuje paowar

morar selectorssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssss

[mali007]

In twenty20 , we can use Razzak but in ODI , Mash & Rasel. Due to pitch condition great Imran Khan once used spinner to open the 2nd innings of a test match and was successful by winning the test.

[al-Sagar]

Shahadat and russel with mash one change. Raj the 4th bowler. Sakib 5th bowler

[Beamer]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
Love those words, I wonder why ...

Generally speaking, guys who can "swing it both ways" are pretty handy with the tainted stuff as well ...

'Switch hitter'- stealing a baseball term here...

[SMHasan]

Originally Posted by Beamer
Whats there to poll here? The two best opening bowlers by far for BD in ODI's has been Mash-Rasel combo.

I always consider what is happening now rather than what has been happening. In recent times Mash has been out of form (to be precise since WC game against India), his mind is somewhere else not on the field, he does not look fit enough, he does not smile(not necessarily you have to smile but people can understand if you are depressed)and most importantly he hasn't been getting wickets.

Considering everything I won't pick Mashrafee right now. I want a disciplined bowler who gives 100% for the team. Thus I will pick Shahadat Hossein and from the other end I want Syed Rasel who will keep things tidy and checked. In this way we will have aggression from SH and Syed Rasel will back him up with his good economical stuff.

BTW I have heard that Mashrafee is having problem with his captain? Is it true?

[tiger_army]

Mash + Rash = gr8 combination..

no shadat no razzak or no fiza plz...