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November 9, 2017, 12:23 PM
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BD Players spread lies to Media?
"He didn't mention the media in the past but he used to say why do the players say such things in the media? I sat with him and the players a number of times, asking them why they lie in the media."
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/...-bcb-president
I feel so sad for Hathura.
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November 9, 2017, 12:27 PM
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Feels like Mushy and co spread lies to media and ate his job.
Really unprofessional from those players that spread lies about Hathura.
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November 15, 2017, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SportingBD
Feels like Mushy and co spread lies to media and ate his job.
Really unprofessional from those players that spread lies about Hathura.
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Why portraying some one as a liar without any proof?
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November 15, 2017, 04:02 PM
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When a team dysfunction like they did in SA, you just cannot change the coach and hope everything will work out fine. Things doesn't work that way in real life.
See the example of NewYork Giants (American Football) as a case study. They had a General manager (responsible for drafting, free-agency, cap management, head coach selection, etc) who is in hot seat for last few years. 2 season ago, they just fired the head coach and brought a 1st time young head coach (promoting internally NY Giant's Khaled Mahmud). then last season they some how managed 11-5. This season the hopes were high. But they start loosing... and high profile key players gave up on the coach and team. Some of them get punished, but so far they are 1-8.
its pretty clear that the head coach will be fired again. But is that enough? All the pandits are saying that's not enough. Along with the coach, the general manager need to be fired. In top of that they are saying that all the trouble makers players who betrayed the team need to be cleaned even it may hit their CAP short term. They need to go 1-2 years rebuild mode with all all new players and the promising players (in the current team) who didn't quit on the team.
When a player quit, he in not only quiting on his coach, but betraying his team mates, owners and fans; and he can no longer be trusted.
Now coming back to our bangladesh Cricket team. I think we need to do the same, we need whole sale change from "process change", to "team selector" change to "head coach" change followed by specialized coach change followed by change in captain and remove some of the trouble maker players even it may coast us some bad result in short term. I think that the only way we can go to then next stage.
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November 15, 2017, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fazal
When a team dysfunction like they did in SA, you just cannot change the coach and hope everything will work out fine. Things doesn't work that way in real life.
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Fact and agree.
Though, when a coach lost support of his senior players, it's time to quit with dignity for a coach IMHO.
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November 15, 2017, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kalpurush
Fact and agree.
Though, when a coach lost support of his senior players, it's time to quit with dignity for a coach IMHO.
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yes..but it doesn't mean you let his senior players go jail free. That will handicap your next coach, specially if he is a disciplinarian and our players are mentally handicapped.
What Rahim did in the press, he should be fired (removed from captaincy) on the spot.
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November 15, 2017, 04:58 PM
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Why portraying some one as a liar without any proof?
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Go back to the toss decision 1st Test match. Mushi implied, it was a team decision. No? I don't think it was. Mushi tried his best to direct the blame to someone other than HIM.
No proof the other way as well at this point. Hope it comes out soon.
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November 15, 2017, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Go back to the toss decision 1st Test match. Mushi implied, it was a team decision. No? I don't think it was. Mushi tried his best to direct the blame to someone other than HIM.
No proof the other way as well at this point. Hope it comes out soon.
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If Mushy lied, it worked brilliantly...got rid of the coach.
I am liking this Machiavellian mushy even more now. Messing with him could mean danger.
Didn't his fake crying get the Rajshahi BPL owner in some hot water as well. Masterful stuff so far.
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November 15, 2017, 09:37 PM
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Didn't his fake crying get the Rajshahi BPL owner in some hot water as well. Masterful stuff so far.
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Don't claim victory too early. If you are talking about last season's Barisal Bull's part owner and BCB director Abdul Awal Chowdhury (also known as Bhulu Bhai), i think Mushfiq made a big mistake. I know "Bhulu Bhai" ... he is no foreigner Huturu daa who you can be beaten once and you are done with it. Mashrafee have to deal with "Bhulu Bhai" as long mushfiq is playing cricket.
Whoever knows "Bhulu Bhai" knows that he is very close to Papon uncle. He is going no where as long as Papon is here. Don't under estimate his power. He is not a bad guy, very generous person, but you don't want to make him your enemy ....that's another stupid move by Mushfiq.
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Originally Posted by al Furqaan
If Mushy lied, it worked brilliantly...got rid of the coach.
I am liking this Machiavellian mushy even more now. Messing with him could mean danger.
Didn't his fake crying get the Rajshahi BPL owner in some hot water as well. Masterful stuff so far.
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Machiavellian???
If I met Mushy in real life, I would punch him the face, we don't need his hum dum politics ruining the game for other domestic performers.
There is nothing boldly machiavellian about Mushfiq, a mouthpiece to the media and a scoundrel amongst the team. If he has a ounce of shame, he will give up captaincy and relinquish his spot in T20s.
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November 16, 2017, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by al Furqaan
If Mushy lied, it worked brilliantly...got rid of the coach.
I am liking this Machiavellian mushy even more now. Messing with him could mean danger.
Didn't his fake crying get the Rajshahi BPL owner in some hot water as well. Masterful stuff so far.
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Rajshahi is old news. Did you forget the recent Barisal Bulls drama?
The owner was very critical of Mushy’s leadership. What happen?
Barisal Bulls owner was forced by BCB to publicly apologise to Mushfiqur Rahim.
Hold on it’s not over. What happens next?
Barisal Bulls banned from BPL citing financial irregularities!
Mushfiqur Rahim wins.
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November 15, 2017, 05:14 PM
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Why portraying some one as a liar without any proof?
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Based on what papon said " I sat with him and the players a number of times, asking them why they lie in the media."
If you see my comment, I did not say he is a liar, rather I said it feels like. We know that Hathura's biggest issue was Mushy, the media already covered that. Hence, when Papon said, he sat with the players, the first name that came to my mind is Mushfiqur Rahim. Now he said players, so it is definitely more than one.
We just have to wait until if Papon or Hathura decides to tell us which players.
At this moment, I can only assume, as we don't know who are the players Papon is referring to.
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November 9, 2017, 12:29 PM
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Shame on fake news
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It had to do with the toss and batting first. Purely speculating me (Which I shouldn't). lol.
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November 9, 2017, 01:38 PM
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I don't remember players talking about hathurusingha in the media
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November 9, 2017, 02:27 PM
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I don't remember players talking about hathurusingha in the media
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Yeh I'm interested to know which comments he's referring to
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November 9, 2017, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SportingBD
"He didn't mention the media in the past but he used to say why do the players say such things in the media? I sat with him and the players a number of times, asking them why they lie in the media."
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/...-bcb-president
I feel so sad for Hathura.
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Or maybe what the players say is true and Hathu didnt like that.
Might explain why Shakib sat out of the tour, Mushy made weird comments and decisions, and unfit Mosaddek was picked for the Aussie series, half fit Tamim was picked, dropped, and picked again in SA.
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November 9, 2017, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Or maybe what the players say is true and Hathu didnt like that.
Might explain why Shakib sat out of the tour, Mushy made weird comments and decisions, and unfit Mosaddek was picked for the Aussie series, half fit Tamim was picked, dropped, and picked again in SA.
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This might actually hold some truth to it. Speaking of those weird comments mushy made, surely the coach also had a say in it.
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November 9, 2017, 02:45 PM
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If Papon wants to stop unnecessary blabbering to media, he needs to start with himself first. The dumbo needs to realize Hathuru is gone. What's the point now to blame the players in public?!
If he wants the players to follow a better media policy going forward, he needs to talk to BCB media manager and the players, not to keep spilling inside info to the media!!!
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papon khalu stirkes again.
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Didnt Papon say during SA series that he will bring Haturu back to BD for some questions? Now we are hearing that Haturu handed over his resignation letter in the middle of SA series.
I just dont know what to believe anymore..
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November 10, 2017, 03:25 PM
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Eagerly waiting for Hathuras detailed report to Papon.
It would be good to know who are the demons in the Bangladesh team.
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November 10, 2017, 07:10 PM
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Liton said bd can score 600 runs in 2nd innings .. flat lie
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November 10, 2017, 07:13 PM
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Liton said bd can score 600 runs in 2nd innings .. flat lie
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LOL I remember Sabbir saying we can chase/score 400
Hathuri was right
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November 10, 2017, 07:43 PM
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It's a guess game, and if I have to guess one of them must be Mushfiq.
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