Cool down now... its just a defeat! - Page 2

Sovik · #26 May 10, 2007, 04:49 PM

its just a game but it was our game but we handed that to India with the help of bashar. those were the days when we used to be beaten by big margins, saeed anwar, wasti used to bowl and still got wickets. now we have improving and we will be seeing close games more than often. so we all should calm down and get ready for the next match.

Timtim · #27 May 10, 2007, 05:28 PM

It's a defeat that could've been turned into a win

It's one thing when we play good and the other team just totally outplays us and it's another thing when we play good on one inning and just totally take a 180 turn on the next to let the opponent win.

The game was in our hands so many times. I think we fielded well (didn't miss a single catch until dravid was out) for the most part, but we were just not in the right places in the field thanks to Mr. Bashar. Our three spinners can't take a wicket if the batsmen are not taking any risks. Dravid, Mongia was out trying to take a risk shot. Dhoni and kartik just took singles the whole time and we did nothing to stop that, which would've pushed the runrate high enough for them to start taking risk shots.

damalChele · #28 May 10, 2007, 05:41 PM

It was a game we should have won and thats why it hurts so bad.

Our players will have to cool down lot before us. They have to get it out of their system. For them it was just another defeat but for fans its hard to accept it. They can't look back and ponder over "what if". The sooner they forget about it the better it is for the fans. They are professionals not us.

Hopefully they will bounce back and reply with appropiate answers. The best reply would be to win the series. I hope this loss motivates the players even more.

It aint over till the FAT lady sings.

Kabir · #29 May 10, 2007, 06:50 PM

All I want to say is, it was an evenly contested match. Every match has a winner...and today it was India. This is not a respectable loss. This is just another loss...and that doesn't make us any worse than India. In fact, I would still consider Bangladesh better than India on any given day. Even great teams lose matches.

cricket_king · #30 May 10, 2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pak_rox
i think bangladeshi fans shud b used to to these conditions

haha mate you wait till pakistan's sri lanka tour. You're going to have to get used to these conditions as well soon enough......oh wait....you already are!

Sauron · #31 May 10, 2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ahmed_B
Cool down now... its just a defeat!

You go ahead and cool down man.

No one other than BD fans will remember this match for being one that we could have won. After a while this will become just another loss, like the numerous ones in the past. No one other than avid BD followers know that the same Ashoka cost us our 1st test match victory against PAK. So don't ask anyone to cool down ... we should be steaming ...

catstrophy · #32 May 10, 2007, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
I am on a cool down mode. But 250 in 47 overs in this pitch was a good total to defend. Those who can't see the faults would continue to support the mistakes.

1) selectors
2) habibul fans

There is no reason for him to continue as a BD national team player.

agreed

Protic · #33 May 10, 2007, 10:25 PM

Im cool..Im cool !!

We played head to head with India.. Onli if it wasnt for a BAD MISTAKE by asoka..Razzak's SURE run out miss chance...we WOULD have won. Simple.
We gave it away. Inshallah we'll pull it back tomorrow.

PoorFan · #34 May 11, 2007, 12:12 AM

It is a mystery to me, why anyone in the team or even bowlers do not talk or ask Bashar for field placing? Rafique, Razzak or even vice captain, coach? It took long for Bashar to learn bowling change, it will take another decade to learn fielding place! Since he is going to quit ODI after this series,, we better give up on him, and wait for new captain.

One World · #35 May 11, 2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorFan
It is a mystery to me, why anyone in the team or even bowlers do not talk or ask Bashar for field placing? Rafique, Razzak or even vice captain, coach? It took long for Bashar to learned bowling change, it will take another decade to learn fielding place! Since he is going to quit ODI after this series,, we better give up on him, and wait for new captain.

You raised a good point there, I second the thought but what I hear Bashar tried to alter field placing in the game but not sure cos could not watch India innings.

Baundule · #36 May 11, 2007, 01:45 AM

It's not that we lost the match, what matters most is the way HaBa turned a win in to a loss. The 'just another match' theory does not apply, because HaBa will do the same in the coming days. I think, BD fans have too much patience. But enough is enough!

MysoreHuli · #37 May 11, 2007, 02:05 AM

More than Bashar's bad captaincy, Ashok D silva's mistake or anything else, it was Dhoni's super human effort along with Kartick that won the match for India.

One World · #38 May 11, 2007, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MysoreHuli
More than Bashar's bad captaincy, Ashok D silva's mistake or anything else, it was Dhoni's super human effort along with Kartick that won the match for India.

Get to the point man..nobody is arguing on DHooni's this or Karlick's that. Its the missed opportunities that we are concerned about. At least we saved you guys' pocket money to run to your fokes home, create effeggee and burn etc.

DJ Sahastra · #39 May 11, 2007, 02:15 AM

For those endlessly blaming the umpire, one can only wonder!

First thing first - i doubt if Asoka De Silva has any grudge against Bangladesh. In fact, in past, different teams, India included have been at the recieving end of his mercies on different occassions. He is guilty of being incompetent, that's it.

Secondly, people have already calculated that if Dhoni was given out, the match was over as there were tailenders to follow. Sorry guys but that's not how the game goes. If Dhoni was out, you still had Dravid, Mongia and Karthik before the tailenders. That unless you are implying that Dravid and Mongia would've played the same way and would've gotten out on the same score if Dhoni was given out LBW. Come on guys, when Dhoni supposedly got the reprieve, he wasn't the last recognised batsman - there were atleast 3 specialist bastman and one all-rounder still to be taken out. Lot of game was still to be played and was far from over at that point.

Lots of would've and ifs but the truth is there was more than 100 run to score and one partnership to break. And if BD lost from there, it can either be a good batting by the opposition or weak defence by the home team or both - definitely not umpire.

I am not saying Dhoni's dismissal wouldn't have created problems. But those who imply that the match would've been over and Bangladesh would've won if Dhoni was given out as wicket no 4. obviously haven't seen a lot of cricket yet.

MysoreHuli · #40 May 11, 2007, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by One World
Get to the point man..nobody is arguing on DHooni's this or Karlick's that. Its the missed opportunities that we are concerned about. At least we saved you guys' pocket money to run to your fokes home, create effeggee and burn etc.

So, what ru goin to burn now? Now that ur team is back to its original form. Well u dont have moeny even for that. Poor fellas!

One World · #41 May 11, 2007, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MysoreHuli
So, what ru goin to burn now? Now that ur team is back to its original form. Well u dont have moeny even for that. Poor fellas!

Well said..do we have to fight over economy now. Anyways for your first question the answer is we dont remember burning anything ever. For your comment about original form the answer is our team is in much better form now compared to 2 years back..and India team is in decline.

For your comment about money I would say ask the moderators how much money is dealt to keep this site up behind the scenes so people like u can make unnecessary pointless comments.

For your last remark as a Muslim I have learnt to believe classs, caste are not part of our social bonding.

But in some places very close to my beautiful country I know they burn something (not just dolls!) almost every year, they burn so much that they have to steal water from neighbors to get it down, they have so much money that they send there people anywhere in the world (even in my country!) to earn money....I can go on I am just tired..

psj · #42 May 11, 2007, 02:38 AM

This is getting absurd now...where are the knowledgable ppl on this forum...Moderators...plz stop this...
Ppl have started attacking religion,caste system,economy,...everything indian for this defeat.....

One World · #43 May 11, 2007, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by psj
This is getting absurd now...where are the knowledgable ppl on this forum...Moderators...plz stop this...
Ppl have started attacking religion,caste system,economy,...everything indian for this defeat.....

Dont worry..I am tired...YAWNSS BIGGG

Baundule · #44 May 11, 2007, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ Sahastra
For those endlessly blaming the umpire, one can only wonder!

First thing first - i doubt if Asoka De Silva has any grudge against Bangladesh. In fact, in past, different teams, India included have been at the recieving end of his mercies on different occassions. He is guilty of being incompetent, that's it.

Secondly, people have already calculated that if Dhoni was given out, the match was over as there were tailenders to follow. Sorry guys but that's not how the game goes. If Dhoni was out, you still had Dravid, Mongia and Karthik before the tailenders. That unless you are implying that Dravid and Mongia would've played the same way and would've gotten out on the same score if Dhoni was given out LBW. Come on guys, when Dhoni supposedly got the reprieve, he wasn't the last recognised batsman - there were atleast 3 specialist bastman and one all-rounder still to be taken out. Lot of game was still to be played and was far from over at that point.

Lots of would've and ifs but the truth is there was more than 100 run to score and one partnership to break. And if BD lost from there, it can either be a good batting by the opposition or weak defence by the home team or both - definitely not umpire.

I am not saying Dhoni's dismissal wouldn't have created problems. But those who imply that the match would've been over and Bangladesh would've won if Dhoni was given out as wicket no 4. obviously haven't seen a lot of cricket yet.

Good analysis. Ashoka is incompetent and it's natural such umpires prefer a safe route, giving benefit to the so called bigger teams (the preference usually goes: Eng-Aus-India-SA-NZ-WI-SL-Pak-BD-Zim...). So, nothing new in it.

And I also agree that Dhoni's getting life is not the main reason to lose the match. We should have won after the fall of 5 wickets so early. It was pretty simple. Dry out singles and compel the batsmen to play big shots, not all of them are going over the rope.

All we have to do is to blame ourselves, more sepcifically out incompetent captain.

fai_hasan · #45 May 11, 2007, 03:27 AM

cool down guys, cool down.

matha thanda rakho sobai.

ekta match jitte parlei amra happy.

catstrophy · #46 May 11, 2007, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by One World
Well said..do we have to fight over economy now. Anyways for your first question the answer is we dont remember burning anything ever. For your comment about original form the answer is our team is in much better form now compared to 2 years back..and India team is in decline.

For your comment about money I would say ask the moderators how much money is dealt to keep this site up behind the scenes so people like u can make unnecessary pointless comments.

For your last remark as a Muslim I have learnt to believe classs, caste are not part of our social bonding.

But in some places very close to my beautiful country I know they burn something (not just dolls!) almost every year, they burn so much that they have to steal water from neighbors to get it down, they have so much money that they send there people anywhere in the world (even in my country!) to earn money....I can go on I am just tired..

lol well said...out of words... may I just add? Since money was brought up.... []

bd_fan_from_india · #47 May 11, 2007, 03:58 AM

i cant understand this bad umpiring thing which is being mentioned here. even bangladesh got lucky as early as the 2nd over when tamim iqbal was plumb to sreesanth but was given not out and made 45. india, also got lucky with the dhoni decision and dhoni made 91*. also, indians have had similar problems with bucknor in the past.

as for the loss, it does not harm bd's new cricketing status in any way and even with a close loss like this, bd proved its wc performance wasnt a fluke. u guys should be happy and not sad. i could have understood this if bd had been thrashed, but making 250 in 47 overs and dominating most of the indian innings wasnt a bad performance by bd

PoorFan · #48 May 11, 2007, 04:13 AM

Some people getting 'HOT' & 'HOT' instead.

Luvlee_nik · #49 May 11, 2007, 05:56 AM

U CALL IT JUST A DEFEAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! well for ur information, this 'minor' defeat made me cry, an those hu make ppl cry r the most horrible beings in this WHOLE world!!! well just the captain, cos naturally the captain shoulders the blame........................maybe únfortunately''

cricket_king · #50 May 11, 2007, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Luvlee_nik
U CALL IT JUST A DEFEAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! well for ur information, this 'minor' defeat made me cry, an those hu make ppl cry r the most horrible beings in this WHOLE world!!! well just the captain, cos naturally the captain shoulders the blame........................maybe únfortunately''

I feel your pain dude/dudette.