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November 3, 2010, 02:04 AM
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Jahurul will now have to bowl as well? What will happen to his keeping? Isnt he our back-up keeper? What else he needs to do to secure a place in the team while losers like Rakibul and Ashraful (in the recent past) have been enjoying free rides.
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November 3, 2010, 03:25 AM
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At least someone's thinking outside the box. But being the losers that our batsmen are, I wouldn't be surprised if they fail miserably like dogs in the streets.
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What's a box? We should bat out 50 overs, 220 is good. Target is over 300, we should play test cricket. What box you talkin about?
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November 3, 2010, 03:32 AM
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What's a box? We should bat out 50 overs, 220 is good. Target is over 300, we should play test cricket. What box you talkin about?
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Now, now. Keep your adoration for JS out of this.
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November 3, 2010, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by firstlane
Jahurul will now have to bowl as well? What will happen to his keeping? Isnt he our back-up keeper? What else he needs to do to secure a place in the team while losers like Rakibul and Ashraful (in the recent past) have been enjoying free rides.
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My guess is he will have to umpire in the "Red" V "Green" games in order to find a spot. He can also try being the Physio, the cheerleader and in an extreme case the waterboy.
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November 3, 2010, 03:42 AM
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See the thing is, more often than not we will play with 2 pacers, and the bowling can become tediously one dimensional in the middle overs, so it's good to have a couple of options who can bowl some cutters to just change the pace and maybe disturb the rhythm of the batsmen. I think it will be good to have a back up plan, just in case.
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And you're better off with a one dimensional aka spin attack rather than part time pacers. Unless you are a top quality pacer, any g8 team will spank you around for good.
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November 3, 2010, 04:21 AM
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Not a bad move if we can make a part time bowlers out of them.
JS has the right height to use that for his advantage and with the growing competition within the team, would enhance his inclusion in the team as well.
Jahurul coul turn out to be the jack of all trade !
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November 3, 2010, 04:35 AM
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Anyone remembers Akram Khan's 'fast' bowling against Jayasuria? The extent of experiment really surprises me. Sure we desperately need a fast bowling allrounder but turning a strugling top order batsman(JS) into a pace bower is out of my understanding. It would make sense if he bowled in the domestic level previously. If you really want a fast bowling allrounder in the team why don't groom someone who has already proved himself in the domestic level. Don't say we have none.
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November 3, 2010, 06:14 AM
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And you're better off with a one dimensional aka spin attack rather than part time pacers. Unless you are a top quality pacer, any g8 team will spank you around for good.
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If things go according to plan, we may have 3 SLA bowlers operating in the 20-35 overs, regardless of how different they are in their flight and trajectory and blah blah blah, they are all SLA. And if a top class batsman gets in and plays them well we don't really have a plan B. I think if we had someone like [maybe] Ryder/Astle/Ganguly/Colly it would just add an extra dimension to the bowling attack. And they[jahurul/Junaid] will only be used for 2-3 over spells once every 5 games.
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November 3, 2010, 06:21 AM
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Ganguly/colly etc hardly got away bowling in subcontinent. Especially in these days batsmen will totally cash in when such part time pacers r bowling. I see what you're on about, but it will do more harm than good. If they want to, why dont they bowl parttime leg/offies?
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November 3, 2010, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
Excellent move by Pont.
Now, Jahurul and Junaid got an excellent chance to make up their batting with some economical bowling. Raqibul should be jealous now....
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Rock & SN will have to take the glooves & do some keeping.
I was wondering why not teaching Shafiul & Razzaq some batting so that we cld do a lot better in PP?
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November 3, 2010, 06:53 AM
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I see what you are saying too, but Bangladesh are not going to play all of their games in the sub continent. And we don't really need more part time offies, we already have Nayeem/Riyad who can chuck in a few slow overs. Also, there are several examples when the set batsmen gave their wickets to mediocre part time bowlers.
But having another option won't do us any harm, also this will only be plan B And they are primarily batsmen, it will be idiotic on if they concentrate more on their bowling than their batting, I am sure the coaches will be aware of that.
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November 3, 2010, 09:23 AM
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This could be a good Idea or a really bad idea at this time esp..
IMO the chance of getting something out of nothing is very low. If these two(Junaid and Jahirul) naturally don't have any bowling potentials then I doubt anything can be gained from this. You can't train a donkey to dance..Instead it might break its legs!
just hope this doesn't take them off from concentrating in BATTING Skills!
Keep it simple and train the fast bowlers we have.
Mash, Rubel, Shafiul, Robiul, Mahbubul, Rasel, Shahadat, Doller, Nazmul + the rookies ....are ENOUGH numbers I'd think.
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November 3, 2010, 09:34 AM
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I don't like this idea.
Selectors should introduce Milon with him. Milon is a good late order batsman and bowls medium pace.
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November 3, 2010, 09:44 AM
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How abt farhad reza? He is already pace allrounder and now got back form
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November 3, 2010, 09:49 AM
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How abt farhad reza? He is already pace allrounder and now got back form
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What with 1 innings against a team who will loose against a 3rd division team from anywhere else from the country
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November 3, 2010, 09:49 AM
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After Atahar/Shujon era, we never had a quality pace bowling allrounder. Both junaid and Zohurul are tall and if they can master Pace bowling a bit, it will give us a variety in our bowling that we really need. But I am more interested to see a genuine leg spinner in the team than this. I just feel sorry for Zohurul. This guy is trying every possible things out to be in the playing XI. I wish you all the success Johu.
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November 3, 2010, 09:56 AM
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How abt farhad reza? He is already pace allrounder and now got back form
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Yes. he could be one as well. he has talents. He was bowling alright before going for ICL. But don't count the last innings.
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November 3, 2010, 09:58 AM
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Wisehah, one magtch e bhalo korlai ki form e fiye ase???
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November 3, 2010, 09:58 AM
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Good move. As much as I am for specialization and concentration, one mustn't live in a bubble.
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November 3, 2010, 10:46 AM
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beparta shubidhar mone hoitase na.....2jon-e amar khub fav. batsmen....jai hok ashakori pont mia professional-er motoi kaj korbe.
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November 3, 2010, 12:31 PM
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first name that will come out of my head is...Shaurav Ganguly.
Was not Mohinder Amarnath also a medium pacer?
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Mahindar was a slow-medium pacer, who used to bowl 60mph or so. Because of accuracy, variations, and swing, he has picked up many crucial wickets for India. He was probably India's best batsman against true fast bowling.
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Paks are also part of subcontinent. So that statement only applies to India. I won't add Bangladesh, because I am biased and we got Pont for Shafi and Rubel and both are capable of bowling at or over 150mph
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150mph!!! That is faster than Shoaib Akhter...
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Jahurul will now have to bowl as well? What will happen to his keeping? Isnt he our back-up keeper? What else he needs to do to secure a place in the team while losers like Rakibul and Ashraful (in the recent past) have been enjoying free rides.
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Who will keep when Jaharul bowls. Oh, I see. He will be the keeper too. He bowls, then runs at 200mph, gets behind the wicket and keeps without pads!
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November 3, 2010, 12:48 PM
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And you're better off with a one dimensional aka spin attack rather than part time pacers. Unless you are a top quality pacer, any g8 team will spank you around for good.
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If you bowl occasionally, and is accurate, you might get results.
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November 3, 2010, 12:56 PM
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Good move by Pont. But I am worried about Jahurul. He is trying everything to get chance in the playing XI. He is a solid batsman and should concentrate more on improving his batting.
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