Match Thread: 2nd Test - Bangladesh vs. Zimbabwe at Sheikh Abu Naser Stadium, Khulna; November 3-7 - Page 57

ReZ_1 · #**1401** November 7, 2014, 04:45 AM

Alhamdulillah. We won..

Gowza · #**1402** November 7, 2014, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashfaq
In terms of pure ability and the illusive x-factor, there has never been another like Ian Botham. There's a reason England pine after him after so many years.

But all things considered Shakib has done exceptionally well. The fact that we are having a conversation in which Shakib is put in the same company as Sobers, Imran and Botham says all that needs to be said.

Shakib has quite an x-factor to though...

ahnaf · #**1403** November 7, 2014, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by epitaph
Imran was also an extraordinary leader, and Shakib...lol.

yeah. Worst leader ever. Leading the team with bat and ball in every single freaking match doesn't mean anything. Right?

Ashfaq · #**1404** November 7, 2014, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by iDumb
The only reason people will have hard time swallowing shakib a great is his country of origin.. Bangladesh tag... otherwise there is no question, just looking at achievements, stats, play.. he is and will indeed be one of the greatest cricket of all time.

Believe that.. becuase he already is.. take out the BD tag, put India, he would be worshipped now with millions of rupees in pocket.

Totally agreed. If he were born in Austrailia, they would have put statues of him around the country. Not joking, they would sell their collective souls to get a spinner like Shakib who's also a legitimate middle order batsman. Just see how they clamour for anybody who can put some revv on the ball. Their constant infatuation with Watson proves that a true allrounder is worth his wait in Platinum in any team.

Gowza · #**1405** November 7, 2014, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by epitaph
Imran was also an extraordinary leader, and Shakib...lol.

Imran was a great leader and he certainly gets point for that, but those points go towards being a good captain rather than a great all rounder which he was as well. Personally I seperate captaincy when comparing all rounders, when you compare batsmen or bowlers or wicket keepers you don't include their captaincy ability, the only time you do it is when it's close and you can't decide or when you're picking a team and need a leader.

Shehwar · #**1406** November 7, 2014, 04:53 AM

Does this mean we will overtake Zimbabwe in test rankings regardless of what happens in the next test? When will the ranking the updated? And what is the cut off point which decides who would play Ireland? Does anyone know?

BanCricFan · #**1407** November 7, 2014, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashfaq
As I said, it is absurd, all the variables are different. .

On this happy occasion I will not get into a "passionate" debate on this lest it leaves a bad taste in the mouth. But, suffice to say, I find your above statement to be the mother of all absurdity. Lets lock horns on this in the future...the next occasion when Shakib scores a double and takes a 10 for, In Sha Allah.

Ashfaq · #**1408** November 7, 2014, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BanCricFan
On this happy occasion I will not get into a "passionate" debate on this lest it leaves a bad taste in mouth. But, suffice to say, I find your above statement to be the mother of all absurdity. Lets lock horns on this in the future...the next occasion when Shakib scores a double and takes a 10 for, In Sha Allah.

Yep, totally agreed. Hopefully that won't be too long. Just for the record: Shakib is in a class of his own but I don't like comparing any current players with players from different era (like Sachin vs Bradman, Lara vs Richards, Dravidvs Gower, Flintoff vs Botham, etc).

ahnaf · #**1409** November 7, 2014, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Shehwar
Does this mean we will overtake Zimbabwe in test rankings regardless of what happens in the next test? When will the ranking the updated? And what is the cut off point which decides who would play Ireland? Does anyone know?

yeah.Even if we lose the next match we will remain in the 9th spot

Navo · #**1410** November 7, 2014, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by iDumb
yeah i picked that up....good thing not as a mod because that would be irrational.

Here is a treat for you... SHakib >> Mujib.. Shakib did more for Bangladesh than Mujib can ever do...

Done!

Lol. My point is that the reference or comparison is unnecessary and pointless. It's like saying Imran Khan did more for Pakistan than Jinnah and Tendulkar did more for India than Nehru. *shrug* just saying, you're entitled to your opinion obviously.

M.H.Rubel · #**1411** November 7, 2014, 05:05 AM

Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi ar kono kotha Nai . . . .
Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi Jitsi jitsi

M.H.Rubel · #**1412** November 7, 2014, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ahnaf
yeah.Even if we lose the next match we will remain in the 9th spot

Are we already at 9? Not showing at official website. http://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings-predictor/test

BanCricFan · #**1413** November 7, 2014, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashfaq
Yep, totally agreed. Hopefully that won't be too long. Just for the record: Shakib is in a class of his own but I don't like comparing any current players with players from different era (like Sachin vs Bradman, Lara vs Richards, Dravidvs Gower, Flintoff vs Botham, etc).

Agreed. But, we are talking about genuine allrounders. Not captain materials or he balls spin and the other was a fast bowler etc. Shakib can get you a fifer when he bowls and blast a ton when he bats. Just like Sobers, Imran, Botham, Kapil, Hadlee or Kallis did in the past. Thats all should matter. He has amply demonstrated that he has all the potential to get buckets load of Test wickets and banks breaking Test runs. Whether he goes on to do that remains to be seen. But, he is one mighty allrounder going right now. I dont think anyone even comes close to him. Shame that he has to play for a side who barely plays 4 Test matches per year!

iDumb · #**1414** November 7, 2014, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BanCricFan
Shame that he has to play for a side who barely plays 4 Test matches per year!

this is the main problem. For shakib it's the opposite, his numbers/stats would improve if he played with all the other stronger teams and in more frequent. His true potential is being limited by being a Bangladeshi.

Despite this huge hurdle he has still done a lot with the little opportunities that he got. And then you have our own people trying to contain him which makes me so upset....

BanCricFan · #**1415** November 7, 2014, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Navo
It's like saying Imran Khan did more for Pakistan than Jinnah.

Well, he did! What that chain smoker, English speaking "gentleman" ever did for his country!

koushik · #**1416** November 7, 2014, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BanCricFan
Agreed. But, we are talking about genuine allrounders. Not captain materials or he balls spin and the other was a fast bowler etc. Shakib can get you a fifer when he bowls and blast a ton when he bats. Just like Sobers, Imran, Botham, Kapil, Hadlee or Kallis did in the past. Thats all should matter. He has amply demonstrated that he has all the potential to get buckets load of Test wickets and banks breaking Test runs. Whether he goes on to do that remains to be seen. But, he is one mighty allrounder going right now. I dont think anyone even comes close to him. Shame that he has to play for a side who barely plays 4 Test matches per year!

mathews is another example

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BanCricFan · #**1417** November 7, 2014, 05:36 AM

Shakibrulz, where art thou sister!

BanCricFan · #**1418** November 7, 2014, 05:38 AM

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mathews is another example

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Havnt seen much of him to comment. But he seems to be decent.

MHRAM · #**1419** November 7, 2014, 05:59 AM

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mathews is another example

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Matthews is an excellent batsman but his bowling is pretty ordinary.

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simon · #**1420** November 7, 2014, 07:25 AM

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Which means a draw!

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I am watching DUMB and DUMBER part 2 right here LIVE.
Dont have to watch the real movie anymore.

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Wasted good 30 min for nothing. No use of those 13 runs or wasting those 7-8 overs. I hope Zim draws it with a wicket left.That'll be a good burn!

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It seemed they struggled to score why so slow.. When Zimb batsmen will come u will see score freely

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This is going for draw

hahaha, humble pies on the way

simon · #**1421** November 7, 2014, 07:27 AM

anyway, congratulations to BD, it was a team effort.
Bravo to Sakib,Momin,Tamim,Taijul,Ryad

SS · #**1422** November 7, 2014, 07:29 AM

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hahaha, humble pies on the way

dhur mia dilen to amare dhoraia...akon kou mukh lukai..ki ar korum amar chintadara ak style and Iceman is from different planet..

Salute to the man from different planet

simon · #**1423** November 7, 2014, 07:35 AM

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Matthews is an excellent batsman but his bowling is pretty ordinary.

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besides I think it's only this year he has been so incredibly good, let's see if Mathews can keep performing like this over a long period of time like Sakib.

ahnaf · #**1424** November 7, 2014, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by M.H.Rubel
Are we already at 9? Not showing at official website. http://www.icc-cricket.com/rankings-predictor/test

it will be updated after the end of this series.

simon · #**1425** November 7, 2014, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SS
dhur mia dilen to amare dhoraia...akon kou mukh lukai..ki ar korum amar chintadara ak style and Iceman is from different planet..

Salute to the man from different planet

you just forgot we were playing against Zim, although Zim fought well in their 1st innings but they don't have a Sanga or a Chondorpol or a Younus Khan.
so have faith