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April 3, 2018, 07:38 PM
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Somethings just never change..
Ashraful equal #2 for most ducks on DPL (3 Ducks)..
Just 1 duck away from #1..
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April 4, 2018, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by simon
Ei deķhun Sirji'r usilay apnader ekta get togeza hoye jacchey, tarporeo apnara tar strike rate er pechon lagsen.
Arey miyas, we have hard hitters like Roeyhim,Ryad,Sub-bir to make up for Sirjis s.r.
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Originally Posted by roman
Amader Sirji ekhono BC te dui ta hit thread khilar khomota rakhe. Sirjir Eid innigs er jonno BC teo get together hocche. Koi Banglar Brad Pit Sub Bir to ekhono ek ta hit thread amader ke upohar dite parlo na. Kono g2g upohar dite parlo na. Admit it, moner gohine ajo apnader Sirjir jonno bhalo basha lukiye achey. Dui ta eid innings khelate abar shei bhalo basha solat solat kore beriye ashchey.
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Ahha bhaiyos, Khawanor Malik Allah, Upash Koranor Malik Allah.
Ashraful is only Usila and the Cook!
BTW guys, do you think that Ash will refuse to take money from us BC Chanda party when we go eat at his restaurant? Do you think he will treat us with the meals for free? Taholey bolo, amra kheyeo asbo, abar asaar pothe Tiffin-Carrier kore kichu Bari-te niye asbo...to eat later as midnight snack.
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April 6, 2018, 05:46 PM
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Ashraful is the only Usila and the crook?
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April 6, 2018, 10:52 PM
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Cricket Guru T20 WC 2010 Fantasy Winner
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He played for Kalabagan ... His team won 2 out 13 matches they played .. Total 4 points and relegated to Tier 2 ... The other team got relegated won 5 matches (10 points) .. Not even close what his team did .. Big deal he scored those 5 centuries!! Let him play Second tier next year and score 5 double and promotion back to DPL ... We can may be consider him for national team then!
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April 8, 2018, 02:50 AM
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Why are you people going bananas over Ash playing for kolabagan? Yes it is true He played for the weakest team but if you think logically it means he must have therefore faced the strongest possible opposition bowling in DPL. He wasnt so lucky like that guy Gordon Greenidge who never had to face the ferocious WI pace attack. Imagine the difficult examination Taskin Abul Rubel etc gave him. He probably had to grind and sweat it out for long periods and play out perhaps 6, 7 balls before finding a loose ball to hit. People say we have better options.. somebody young and twice as good then why arent those folks scoring 10 centuries and ending this debate? When Ash bats oil, he is a beast.. he can hit like Shabbir on steroids and also be as sublime as Soumya on lipton cha. #givehimachance
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April 8, 2018, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jadukor
Why are you people going bananas over Ash playing for kolabagan? Yes it is true He played for the weakest team but if you think logically it means he must have therefore faced the strongest possible opposition bowling in DPL. He wasnt so lucky like that guy Gordon Greenidge who never had to face the ferocious WI pace attack. Imagine the difficult examination Taskin Abul Rubel etc gave him. He probably had to grind and sweat it out for long periods and play out perhaps 6, 7 balls before finding a loose ball to hit. People say we have better options.. somebody young and twice as good then why arent those folks scoring 10 centuries and ending this debate? When Ash bats oil, he is a beast.. he can hit like Shabbir on steroids and also be as sublime as Soumya on lipton cha. #givehimachance
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....and match fix better than Mohammad Amir and pakistan combined.
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April 8, 2018, 07:38 PM
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Guess who has the highest average in DPL? Haters aren't gonna like that.
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...ype=tournament
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April 8, 2018, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DinRaat.
....and match fix better than Mohammad Amir and pakistan combined.
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Amir is a national team level fixer. Ash is only BPL good. Still has a long way to go to catch up the pakistanis.
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April 8, 2018, 08:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yankees
Amir is a national team level fixer. Ash is only BPL good. Still has a long way to go to catch up the pakistanis.
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ash has been fixing for national team since 2004, ash would say to amir "ristey me to hum tomara bap lagte hain"
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April 8, 2018, 09:18 PM
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Guess who has fixed the most matches for Bangladesh? Haters aren't gonna like that.
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April 8, 2018, 11:21 PM
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Shouldn’t more than just that average be considered? Like strike rate? Career average (to show consistency)? Talent ceiling?
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April 9, 2018, 01:24 AM
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Ashraful can be our batting coach. His "Do as I say, not as I do"style shall prevail.
Boom! Kill two threads with one stone.
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April 9, 2018, 04:51 AM
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You cant kill threads with a stone. Try one of your horrible rahim jokes... that might drive people away from my hit thread
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April 9, 2018, 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gowza
Shouldn’t more than just that average be considered? Like strike rate? Career average (to show consistency)? Talent ceiling?
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That is a different story.... I just mentioned one aspect of statistics.
BTW, strike rate is not a problem for a guy who has all the shots in his sleeve. Anyone coming from a long vacation (or ban) would try to spend time on the field as much as possible. Ashraul just did that intelligently. It is only matter of time that he would accelerate the pace.
Talent ceiling? You must be kidding. This guy sweeped McGrath for a boundary in Cardiff! Talent was never a question for him. It was his brain fart that raised eyebrows.
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April 9, 2018, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kana-Baba
That is a different story.... I just mentioned one aspect of statistics.
BTW, strike rate is not a problem for a guy who has all the shots in his sleeve. Anyone coming from a long vacation (or ban) would try to spend time on the field as much as possible. Ashraul just did that intelligently. It is only matter of time that he would accelerate the pace.
Talent ceiling? You must be kidding. This guy sweeped McGrath for a boundary in Cardiff! Talent was never a question for him. It was his brain fart that raised eyebrows.
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Please stay calm and neutral, I never said ash didn't have a high talent ceiling. As far as strike rate, i've said it before his team lost most matches where he scored the tons and in most of those matches his strike rate was under 80 so either ash has lost his hitting mojo ability or he made some pretty poor decisions out in the middle being a senior player because he clearly should've upped his strike rates in those innings and given his team a better chance.
A strike rate of 75-80 in the current one day game is low, keep in mind his talent, experience and that it was domestic cricket(I.e. Not as high quality as international cricket which ash has played plenty of). Youngsters like Liton and shanto scored well with really good averages and struck in the mid 90s.
If ash was trying to get time in the middle he did a good job but those strike rates are certainly nothing to defend considering his team win/loss record in those matches.
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April 9, 2018, 05:59 PM
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Agree with Gowza on this one. SR under 80 isnt acceptable anymore... Unless he can score a 100 9 out of 10 days, that SR doesnt mean much. Although I will say this, With the team he played in, most of the time slowing down was required because of the lack of reliable batsmen around him. Lets see how he plays in this upcoming BPL.
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April 9, 2018, 06:48 PM
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Strike rate is not an issue with Ash but consistency is. The real issue as kana-baba pointed out is whether he can overcome his brain farts. He scored slowly because he wanted to preserve his wicket and score a ton and the biggest takeway is that he was able to do that without losing his wicket.
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April 9, 2018, 08:14 PM
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Ash and brainfarts are like Laila Majnu. Cant have 1 without the other.
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April 9, 2018, 08:29 PM
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So prior to this competition, he had only made 5 List A centuries?
I've checked his career stats on Cricinfo, and saw that he has 10 List A centuries now.
Quite a feat.
Also, as a batsman, his List A batting average is dreadful: 25.57. This is slightly better than his ODI average: 22.23.
History will look at those stats and ignore him. I don't know about the BCB selectors.
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April 9, 2018, 09:09 PM
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Stats does not always replicate capability of a player. I find the new Ash can be an asset for BD.
Nobody knew what Mash can do with his almost broken pair of knees and look where he is now.
And yes those players like Mash proves time to time that age is just a number.
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April 9, 2018, 09:16 PM
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^^ we can't run away from the stats .
The past will always haunt us.
Hence, that's why I said that it's quite the feat of him doubling his number of List A centuries in this tournament alone. Ashraful 2.0 is hungry.
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April 9, 2018, 09:50 PM
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So let me ask this, why pick ash over liton or shanto? They’ve been more consistent for longer, have more time on their side, better strike rates etc.
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April 10, 2018, 01:53 AM
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Best way to make a statement would be by making runs on an A team tour. It is time BCB sends all our reserve players on A team tours to get them match ready for WC 2019. Ash should play no 3 and must score runs before being brought into the national setup. He plays pace and spin equally well and if he has matured over the years as the five centuries seem to indicate then he should have no problems scoring runs abroad. Once he does that we will have a good option to replace Kayes, Soumya or Shabbir with Ash for England WC 2019.
Ash has a century in Eng against the Aussies and so there is no doubt he has the ability to do it again. He can be the wildcard we need because Soumya, Shabbir, Kayes has done nothing in Champions Trophy and right now these 3 are a liability to our batting. We can experiment with Liton Shanto amd Ash as replacements to see if it works.
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April 10, 2018, 12:00 PM
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Quote:
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Ashraful 2.0 is hungry.
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Already? Ramadan is still one months away.
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April 10, 2018, 12:04 PM
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So let me ask this, why pick ash over liton or shanto? .
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you ask too many hard questions. Because 1st love is hard to forget...
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