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November 15, 2012, 07:15 PM
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gazi is the right handed shakib. just kidding. but they have really similar bowling actions and sohag has played some decent knocks in the NCL.
this business of holding back bowlers is not good news, and i think the structure of the national team of the last few years has had an impact since most of the time they bat down to 7 or 8 when really you just need 6 batsmen, 1 keeper batsman, and 1 or 2 bowling allrounders then the specialist bowlers.
bowling allrounders i think are generally more useful because usually it's easier to develop someone's batting than it is their bowling. that's why a lot of age group players go from being bowlers to batsmen whereas you don't get it the other way around as much.
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November 15, 2012, 07:18 PM
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He is like Shakib only action-wise only but other than that Shakib doesn't flight as much as deviating his LnL and spin.
Edit: Just saw the j/k part. at moi
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November 16, 2012, 11:16 PM
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What a find for us!!!Allah malik!
Just run through WI tails congrats! hope many more to come
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November 16, 2012, 11:23 PM
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Good stuff. We ve finally found a quality OS. Will really spice up our attack in all formats.
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November 17, 2012, 06:16 AM
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Well done! Great find. Hope he develops carrom balls and wrong'uns in future. Is that a new record for best performance on debut?
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November 17, 2012, 08:55 AM
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Congrats boy! Proud of you.
Keep on doing good works. Don't take your place for granted in the team.
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November 18, 2012, 12:47 PM
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Is Sohag Gazi for Real?
I am aware of the possibility that Sohag Gazi is a 1-hit wonder. But, I liked his bowling. He can generate moderate turn and has a lot of variations. Plus, despite not scoring much in this test, he looked like a mature bat. If he is successful, perhaps we'll start getting new spinners outside the traditional SLA's. However, he needs the help of a good coach to develop. I hope that the management does not let him down.
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November 18, 2012, 01:02 PM
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November 18, 2012, 01:04 PM
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One hit wonder or not. The next video I am going to upload in BC's FB page will make you proud.
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November 18, 2012, 01:57 PM
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Go to this link if you have FB. Watch the video "impossible is nothing". Like it and share with friends.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bangl...8975754?ref=hl
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November 18, 2012, 02:10 PM
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Brilliant work Bro! ^^^
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November 18, 2012, 02:23 PM
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Thanks a lot for sharing Mo bhai.
Everyone should watch this video.
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November 18, 2012, 02:36 PM
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Thanks Gopal and Equinox. When I saw this news it kind of brought tears in my eyes. Sohag will inspire many young kids to play cricket.
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November 18, 2012, 02:56 PM
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I was not posting for a while. But could not help myself when I saw this. Great Human Story! Thank You Mo Bhai!
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November 18, 2012, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
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I was not posting for a while. But could not help myself when I saw this. Great Human Story! Thank You Mo Bhai!
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You are welcome Zulfiqer bhai. Occasional post is better than no post at all.
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November 18, 2012, 03:42 PM
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Great video! I was lmao at the should've gone to specsavers one. Couldn't stop laughing.
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November 18, 2012, 04:24 PM
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Thank for sharing Mo bhai, very inspiration story. All of our cricketer's come from different background, some fortunate others not so much. But every single one of their story is unique and heart warming.
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November 18, 2012, 06:35 PM
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Proud parents.....Gazi hunt one more time in khulna ....this time...deer is yours......ar tigers for the sammys n co.(dura sammy....tiger ashlo.
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November 18, 2012, 10:28 PM
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Yet another example of- Chase your dreams; Success is bound to follow. Thanks for the share MoC bhai
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November 18, 2012, 11:49 PM
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It's way too early to tell, but I sure hope he's a keeper.
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November 18, 2012, 11:55 PM
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Yeah seems like a bowler who will really more on accuracy and consistency. In other words a traditional Bangladeshi spinner who waits for batsmen to make mistakes-Rafique, Shakib, Razzak all fall in this category. They bowl accurately, pin the batsmen down, frustrate them and wait for them to make mistakes. Sohag seems to fall in the same category.
I am still dreaming of seeing a Bangladeshi spinner who will beat batsmen with skill, and force dismissals rather than waiting for the batsman to make a mistake. It requires spinners with attacking mindset. Sth Warne, Murali, Kumble, Harbhajan, McGill, Vettori, Saqlain did. In modern day cricket you can see Swann, Ajmal, Ashwin, Herath do the same. And in form Shakib can force dismissals. Enamul is another bowler who can do that. This is where Saqlain Mushtaq can really help. Sohag seems to have the basics, now he must be taught to attack. And for that he needs to improve his armory with variation
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November 18, 2012, 11:59 PM
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one point to note is that: Despite the rise of Shohag Gazi, we should not discard Elias Sunny since Elias Sunny has not performed poorly yet.
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November 19, 2012, 01:23 AM
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I would compare Shohag Gazi to this guy:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-...yer/26421.html
He could be our version of Ravichandran Ashwin!
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November 19, 2012, 01:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeesh
Yeah seems like a bowler who will really more on accuracy and consistency. In other words a traditional Bangladeshi spinner who waits for batsmen to make mistakes-Rafique, Shakib, Razzak all fall in this category. They bowl accurately, pin the batsmen down, frustrate them and wait for them to make mistakes. Sohag seems to fall in the same category.
I am still dreaming of seeing a Bangladeshi spinner who will beat batsmen with skill, and force dismissals rather than waiting for the batsman to make a mistake. It requires spinners with attacking mindset. Sth Warne, Murali, Kumble, Harbhajan, McGill, Vettori, Saqlain did. In modern day cricket you can see Swann, Ajmal, Ashwin, Herath do the same. And in form Shakib can force dismissals. Enamul is another bowler who can do that. This is where Saqlain Mushtaq can really help. Sohag seems to have the basics, now he must be taught to attack. And for that he needs to improve his armory with variation
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Part of that has ot do with captaincy...a bowler must be supported by the field setting. Against WI we often had one or even both batsman being new to crease and Gazi was bowling with a slip and silly point/short leg. Where where the other fielders? Same thing when we were bowling to Windies tail. No pressure...thank God Gazi still attacked the stumps and got his dismissals form clean bowlds and lbw. Thats pretty attacking because dancing down teh pitch or a good sweep shot could be a certain boundary on this flat track. He also flights the ball a lot according to CI commentary...wasn't really paying attention when I was watching. By contrast, Dhoni was setting 3 and 4 bat-pads for Ojha and Ashwin even when Cook and Prior had a triple digit partnership going. Bangladesh pulls all the fielders to save the boundary as soon as a batsman gets to 20. Is it any wonder that batsman have no problems scoring double tons against us? I mean why not just rest the 9 fielders and just have the bowler bowl to the wicket keeper?
When Sunny debuted last year...he produced several chances against WI in addition to the 7 wickets he ended up taking. Along with Enamul, we could have 4 possible strike spinners.
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November 19, 2012, 03:25 AM
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Yeah correct al Furqan. Thats the word i was looking for-strike spin bowler. Someone who can beat batsman with turn, flight, arm ball, variation. Not someone who will profit from a mistimed heave or batsmans poor footwork, or simply benefit from assistance from the wickets. You are right about Sunny, who too can produce magical deliveries. Shakib was very capable of playing this role. Too much of KKR and T20 cricket has ruined his bowling. I reckon he wont even pick up a lot of wickets in FC like Enamul, and Razzak are doing. His bowling is too predictable and lacks venom
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