facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Miscellaneous > Forget Cricket

Forget Cricket Talk about anything [within Board Rules, of course :) ]

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old September 21, 2008, 11:12 AM
One World One World is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: May 18, 2005
Location: New England
Favorite Player: Mominul Haque
Posts: 24,706

Well the current wiki list is a hilarious one, it has Azam Khan not Abdul Alim.
__________________
À vaincre sans péril, on triomphe sans gloire.

Last edited by One World; September 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM..
Reply With Quote

  #52  
Old September 21, 2008, 11:20 AM
thebest thebest is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: February 21, 2005
Location: in the blue planet
Posts: 3,822

OK I remember the name who measured the height of Mt. Everest; It is Radharaman Sikder
__________________
Twenty20 is not a gentleman's game. It's like a one-night stand and not a marriage. It is a street format and the goonda doesn't know what is a late cut or a cover drive
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old September 21, 2008, 11:44 AM
Zeeshan's Avatar
Zeeshan Zeeshan is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: March 9, 2008
Location: Ω
Posts: 35,906

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebest
OK I remember the name who measured the height of Mt. Everest; It is Radharaman Sikder
Thanx thebest, do you happen to know the name of the child who saved the train collison by making a red flag?
__________________
Atman

Official Website |Amazon | Twitter/X | YouTube|Cricket Articles
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old September 21, 2008, 11:46 AM
Rabz's Avatar
Rabz Rabz is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
BC - Bangladesh Representative
 
Join Date: February 28, 2005
Location: Here
Favorite Player: Father of BD Cricket
Posts: 20,540

Did anyone mention Kazi Anwar Hossain.
I dont care if he used to translate and copy from English novels, his "Sheba" Prokashoni is part of our Bangla culture.

Anyone who grow up in 60-early 90's, can vouch for it.
__________________
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest [Al-Qur'an,13:28]
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old September 21, 2008, 04:59 PM
Rubu's Avatar
Rubu Rubu is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: February 15, 2004
Location: Michigan
Favorite Player: Mashrafee Mortaza
Posts: 8,361

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabz
Did anyone mention Kazi Anwar Hossain.
I dont care if he used to translate and copy from English novels, his "Sheba" Prokashoni is part of our Bangla culture.

Anyone who grow up in 60-early 90's, can vouch for it.
Looks like we have similar taste in reading. I still read Masud Rana. In fact, I have over 300 Masud Rana in my collection (I consider it to be one of the biggest in USA )
__________________
সন্মানজনক পরাজয়ের চিন্তাটাই অসন্মানজনক
- The days of playing for honorable defeat is over.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old September 21, 2008, 06:27 PM
golam golam is offline
Club Cricketer
 
Join Date: January 9, 2004
Posts: 121

Mawlana Vashani should be at the top five. How come nobody even mentioned him?
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old September 21, 2008, 06:29 PM
Zeeshan's Avatar
Zeeshan Zeeshan is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: March 9, 2008
Location: Ω
Posts: 35,906

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabz
Did anyone mention Kazi Anwar Hossain.
I dont care if he used to translate and copy from English novels, his "Sheba" Prokashoni is part of our Bangla culture.

Anyone who grow up in 60-early 90's, can vouch for it.
I don't know about him, but it would be over my dead body before I give it to Rakib Hasan who used to rip off The Three Investigators and copy and translate line by line yet front it as "chaya obolomboney" by violating copyright rights. There is nothing 'genius' about that.

No, when you translate sth. and don't give the author his credit, that's called plagiarism.
__________________
Atman

Official Website |Amazon | Twitter/X | YouTube|Cricket Articles
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old September 22, 2008, 01:40 PM
Rabz's Avatar
Rabz Rabz is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
BC - Bangladesh Representative
 
Join Date: February 28, 2005
Location: Here
Favorite Player: Father of BD Cricket
Posts: 20,540

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gopal Bhar
I don't know about him, but it would be over my dead body before I give it to Rakib Hasan who used to rip off The Three Investigators and copy and translate line by line yet front it as "chaya obolomboney" by violating copyright rights. There is nothing 'genius' about that.

No, when you translate sth. and don't give the author his credit, that's called plagiarism.
Why dont you try to translate something line by line and try to sell it to millions for over many decades.

And copyright and plagiarism ?
Try telling that to avergage Bangladeshi kids/youth who are not so fortunate enough like you to live in OC. At least Sheba Prokashoni gave millions of Bangladeshis to read amazing stories in a language that they would understand better.

Not everybody in this world speaks english you know.

Plus i dont know how old you are or how long you've been living overseas, but if you havent read Masud Rana/Tin Goenda/Western/Onubad yourself back in the days when there were no cable/internet, i think i can never make you understand what Rana and Sohana, Kishor,Musa and Robin meant to us.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gopal Bhar
I don't know about him, but it would be over my dead body before I give it to Rakib Hasan ...............
So, it sounds more like Gopal Bhar's "100 Genius", rather than a compilation based on general concensus.

If you are only picking what you think is right, why bother asking in the first place?
__________________
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest [Al-Qur'an,13:28]
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old September 22, 2008, 02:04 PM
Zeeshan's Avatar
Zeeshan Zeeshan is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: March 9, 2008
Location: Ω
Posts: 35,906

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabz
Why dont you try to translate something line by line and try to sell it to millions for over many decades.
So, just because I can't do sth. and someone else can do it, the he is a a genius? By your logic, Jewel Aich is a genius or why not extend it even more, since you can't do what a hardworking rickshaw puller can do all, day his entire life, then he is a genius? Your point becomes moot right there.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabz
And copyright and plagiarism ?
Try telling that to avergage Bangladeshi kids/youth who are not so fortunate enough like you to live in OC. At least Sheba Prokashoni gave millions of Bangladeshis to read amazing stories in a language that they would understand better.
So it's okay to cheat? Then perhaps we can also include the entrepreneurs who became rich from crooked paths?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabz
Plus i dont know how old you are or how long you've been living overseas, but if you havent read Masud Rana/Tin Goenda/Western/Onubad yourself back in the days when there were no cable/internet, i think i can never make you understand what Rana and Sohana, Kishor,Musa and Robin meant to us.
I have read Tin Goenda hence my observation that it was a straight out rip off of Three Invenstigators. I know we cannot compare the geniuses in the list, but if we take the ltierary giants in our country amd see that in the same list where we have included Kazi Nazrul Islam, you want to see Rakib Hasan to be on that same level as he is? It'd be insult to him, if a plagiarer is to be included. (If it really wasn't a big issue why wouldn't he have written in the books that it's basically a translated work from overseas stories?)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabz
So, it sounds more like Gopal Bhar's "100 Genius", rather than a compilation based on general concensus. If you are only picking what you think is right, why bother asking in the first place?
Hence the purpose of a healthy argument. As I mentioned, if someone thinks a person should be on the list he should at least give some reasonable arguments and when that happens, why can't I fight back with my own arguments? We don't have to be kissing cousins and yes-men to argue back and forth. It sad to see that in our culture argument and dissent is considered to be a denigrating issue whereas it is the hallmark of advancement and evolution in relatively free countries.
__________________
Atman

Official Website |Amazon | Twitter/X | YouTube|Cricket Articles

Last edited by Zeeshan; September 22, 2008 at 02:13 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old September 23, 2008, 12:13 PM
Rabz's Avatar
Rabz Rabz is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
BC - Bangladesh Representative
 
Join Date: February 28, 2005
Location: Here
Favorite Player: Father of BD Cricket
Posts: 20,540

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabz
if you havent read Masud Rana/Tin Goenda/Western/Onubad yourself back in the days when there were no cable/internet, i think i can never make you understand what Rana and Sohana, Kishor,Musa and Robin meant
We are talking from two different perspective.
No point dragging along.
__________________
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest [Al-Qur'an,13:28]
Reply With Quote
  #61  
Old September 23, 2008, 12:16 PM
Rabz's Avatar
Rabz Rabz is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
BC - Bangladesh Representative
 
Join Date: February 28, 2005
Location: Here
Favorite Player: Father of BD Cricket
Posts: 20,540

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubu
Looks like we have similar taste in reading. I still read Masud Rana. In fact, I have over 300 Masud Rana in my collection (I consider it to be one of the biggest in USA )
Good to know another Masud Rana fan.
I do have a good collection, probably about 200, but certainly not to your extend.
Nostalgic times.
__________________
Verily, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find rest [Al-Qur'an,13:28]
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old September 24, 2008, 04:10 AM
CholCholBD's Avatar
CholCholBD CholCholBD is offline
ODI Cricketer
 
Join Date: September 9, 2008
Location: USA
Favorite Player: Mashrafe
Posts: 529

Jawed Karim shouldnt be included because business success does not require genius or innovation...just timing and execution.
__________________
Statistics is ONLY a guide. It is not ABSOLUTE, and is a terrible predictor
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old September 25, 2008, 07:11 PM
Yameen's Avatar
Yameen Yameen is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: June 27, 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Favorite Player: Jayasuria
Posts: 2,078

the four national leaders
__________________
Jamie Siddons is at slip, and decided enough is enough. He yells out. "For christ sake, it's not a 'f*ckin test match."
Waugh replies: " Of course it isn't … You're here. "
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old September 25, 2008, 09:38 PM
Rubu's Avatar
Rubu Rubu is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: February 15, 2004
Location: Michigan
Favorite Player: Mashrafee Mortaza
Posts: 8,361

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yameen
the four national leaders
Very few political leader of any country is actually genius.

what even more odd is that you did not mention mujib but mentioned the 4 leaders (since I know one of them is your nana of some sort)
__________________
সন্মানজনক পরাজয়ের চিন্তাটাই অসন্মানজনক
- The days of playing for honorable defeat is over.
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old September 26, 2008, 07:34 AM
Yameen's Avatar
Yameen Yameen is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: June 27, 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Favorite Player: Jayasuria
Posts: 2,078

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubu
what even more odd is that you did not mention mujib but mentioned the 4 leaders (since I know one of them is your nana of some sort)
I did not mention Mujib because it was already mentioned earlier in the thread.
Yes one of them was my nana
__________________
Jamie Siddons is at slip, and decided enough is enough. He yells out. "For christ sake, it's not a 'f*ckin test match."
Waugh replies: " Of course it isn't … You're here. "
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old September 26, 2008, 08:24 AM
thebest thebest is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: February 21, 2005
Location: in the blue planet
Posts: 3,822

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yameen
I did not mention Mujib because it was already mentioned earlier in the thread.
Yes one of them was my nana
Can you explain why your grandfather would be considered as genius. As Rubu mentioned very few politicians are genius .With the exception of Mahathir and Lee Kwan Yoo I do not consider any politician genius that include Mandela and Aung San Suki - grear statesmen yes; genius No.
__________________
Twenty20 is not a gentleman's game. It's like a one-night stand and not a marriage. It is a street format and the goonda doesn't know what is a late cut or a cover drive
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old September 26, 2008, 08:43 AM
BanCricFan's Avatar
BanCricFan BanCricFan is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: April 29, 2005
Favorite Player: Taskin, Rubel, Abul
Posts: 10,731

Baba Alauddin khan
Ustad Ali Akbar Khan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Akbar_Khan

Bimol Roy
Salil Choudhury
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old September 26, 2008, 05:57 PM
Yameen's Avatar
Yameen Yameen is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: June 27, 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Favorite Player: Jayasuria
Posts: 2,078

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebest
Can you explain why your grandfather would be considered as genius. As Rubu mentioned very few politicians are genius .With the exception of Mahathir and Lee Kwan Yoo I do not consider any politician genius that include Mandela and Aung San Suki - grear statesmen yes; genius No.
The definitive nature of being a 'genius' lies within the deeds performed from ones extraordinary capabilities which exceeds the human brain.

I agree very few politicians can be termed genius however this thread appearing to be based on personal opinion, I subjectively select the Four national leaders to be of this genre. This being based on what I have read, what highly respected people have told me plus other secondary accounts.

A matter of choice and perhaps exaggerated of me to call them genius some may say but certainly leaders of an exceptional calibre they were.

To briefly outline,

My Grandfather, an exceptional alumni of the prestigous Aligarh Muslim University in India achieved a 1st class M.A in law and economics but also in the top honours roll in which he was also awarded the gold medal for.

He played an active role in opposing the rule of declaration of Urdu being the only official language in 1952 and helped fight for the recognition for Bangla as a language on behalf of the Awami Muslim League as was then called.

He and the national leaders played an instrumental role in the 6 point movement led by Sheikh Mujib to in the end pursue the indpendance of Bangladesh. He was a key organiser of the party movement during the absence of Mujib when he was arrested in 1970. He masterminded the creation of a government in exile during the Liberation war and earned him right role of Minister of Finance as soon as independance was declared and later in home affairs, eventually prime ministerial role in 75.

On reflection, one can regard him as a great leader, a fellow of extreme hardship for nation and people and whether he is a genius or not, that is entirely upto the world view. From what I gather and how he is portrayed by many I have come across, I certainly believe so.
__________________
Jamie Siddons is at slip, and decided enough is enough. He yells out. "For christ sake, it's not a 'f*ckin test match."
Waugh replies: " Of course it isn't … You're here. "
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old October 2, 2008, 08:33 AM
MohammedC MohammedC is offline
BanglaCricket Staff
 
Join Date: April 15, 2007
Location: Manchester,UK
Favorite Player: bhujee kom
Posts: 22,656
Default Fazlur Rahman Khan

Did not see his name mentioned

Fazlur Rahman Khan (Bengali: ফজলুর রহমান খান Fozlur Rôhman Khan) (April 3, 1929 - March 27, 1982), born in Dhaka, Bengal (now Bangladesh), was a Bangladeshi American structural engineer. He is regarded as the "Einstein of structural engineering" and considered "the greatest structural engineer of the second half of the 20th century" for his constructions of the Sears Tower and John Hancock Center, and for his designs of structural systems that remain fundamental to all high-rise skyscrapers, including the tube structure, X-bracing and sky lobby designs.[1]

Info taken from Wiki

__________________
I love Bangladesh cricket and that's why I found BanglaCricket.com
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old October 2, 2008, 11:17 AM
Zeeshan's Avatar
Zeeshan Zeeshan is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: March 9, 2008
Location: Ω
Posts: 35,906

thanks mohammadc bhai, but i someone mentioned fr khan already...

and i cant believe i left agriculturalist genius Shaikh Shiraz out (he was in my notebook list before), what do you all think of him being in the list?
__________________
Atman

Official Website |Amazon | Twitter/X | YouTube|Cricket Articles
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old October 2, 2008, 11:51 AM
Tigers_eye's Avatar
Tigers_eye Tigers_eye is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: June 30, 2005
Location: Little Rock
Favorite Player: Viv Richards, Steve Waugh
Posts: 32,798

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gopal Bhar
thanks mohammadc bhai, but i someone mentioned fr khan already...

and i cant believe i left agriculturalist genius Shaikh Shiraz out (he was in my notebook list before), what do you all think of him being in the list?
He is a shoein for the Hall of Fame.
+++
Hall of shame anyone?
__________________
The Weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the Strong." - Gandhi.
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old October 3, 2008, 08:52 AM
auntu's Avatar
auntu auntu is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: March 7, 2007
Location: elsewhere
Favorite Player: ZAR
Posts: 9,896

The architect who design tower in US..
__________________
﴾اَلَاۤ اِنَّ اَوۡلِيَآءَ اللّٰهِ لَا خَوۡفٌ عَلَيۡهِمۡ وَلَا هُمۡ يَحۡزَنُوۡنَ ۖ ۚ‏ ﴿۶۲
"Listen, the friends of Allah shall have no fear, nor shall they grieve" (Yunus: 62)
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old October 3, 2008, 09:21 AM
thebest thebest is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: February 21, 2005
Location: in the blue planet
Posts: 3,822

Fakruddin Baburchi - the artist of Biriyani
__________________
Twenty20 is not a gentleman's game. It's like a one-night stand and not a marriage. It is a street format and the goonda doesn't know what is a late cut or a cover drive
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old October 3, 2008, 02:46 PM
Zeeshan's Avatar
Zeeshan Zeeshan is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: March 9, 2008
Location: Ω
Posts: 35,906

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebest
Fakruddin Baburchi - the artist of Biriyani
positive,

it's funny you mentioned it, because at first when i saw the thread "Fakhruddin's view published on Time Magazine" at first i honestly thought they were interviewing him. No joke!
__________________
Atman

Official Website |Amazon | Twitter/X | YouTube|Cricket Articles
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old October 5, 2008, 01:13 PM
sbsash sbsash is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: February 16, 2008
Posts: 5,441

Do one about me.Because I recieved the presidents award last year and principals list 5 time in a row.2 from 4th grade and 3 from 5th grade.1 Honor Roll from 4th grade.I still have them.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:06 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket