Are we walking backwards??

[sar2005]

Australia v Bangladesh: Totals less than 150 for Bangladesh

105 Cairns2003
124 Fatullah 2006
129 Colombo (SSC)2002/03
139 Manchester2005
142 Darwin2003
147 Cairns2003

124 - 2nd worst performance by bd which means we are back to 2002 or even earlier (we scored 129 in 2002). Then too against a fully inexperienced bowling attack??? Apart from Hogg, none of those 7 bowlers are experienced in ODI bowling. It could not be acceptable even if we were playing against the 1st line AUS bowling attack.

I am really upset. All my optimistic mood of the whole serries has been f***ed by this performance and pull me down to the earth. This is soooooooo frustrating for the team, coach and the fans. How can I dream now? Eat cricket, think cricket, talk cricket will be sound funny infront of all my aussee and english friends. I am sure many of our foreign frineds will ask now, "Which way are you moving?"

Please please help me to find out an answer. I really don't know what to say after losing a match even before it gets half way mark. What else think-tank, fans, a cricket crazy nation can do to get little more respect??

It would be much more better to bring our U19 team as the national and give a fresh start in ODIs. The current team can only continue to play test matches. That should be finalized right away

[Tigers_eye]

Cool down. We will rise again. actually I don't have any thing to consolate you with. Just want to say, Australia did get all out 93 this year. They are not going backwards. So aren't we.

[cricket_pagla]

Originally Posted by Cats_eye
Cool down. We will rise again. actually I don't have any thing to consolate you with. Just want to say, Australia did get all out 93 this year. They are not going backwards. So aren't we.

completly agree with you.. go Bangladesh go...

[islam]

93 all out can happen to any one on any given day.

However bd consistently provide with sub 200 scores, which Australia do not do. In fact consistantly Australia, (along with india and SA) are the three most consistent ODI batting team going around.

It's allways good to reflect back on Australias 93 vs a realy good bowling line up, insteed on focusing on what the real problems with bd cricket are.

[PoorFan]

Originally Posted by Cats_eye
Cool down. We will rise again. actually I don't have any thing to consolate you with. Just want to say, Australia did get all out 93 this year. They are not going backwards. So aren't we.

Hmmm ... not enough ... need something more ...

[sar2005]

Thanks Cats_eye ( I can also realize your feeling right now).
The bruital truth is, when Australia get out for 93, the cricket world take it as an accident. And when it happens for BD, the question arrises by the whole world if we are really improving.

[Hasib]

Originally Posted by sar2005
Thanks Cats_eye ( I can also realize your feeling right now).
The bruital truth is, when Australia get out for 93, the cricket world take it as an accident. And when it happens for BD, the question arrises by the whole world if we are really improving.

So what if the rest of the world ask that? They have proven time and time again they understand hardly anything about our cricket. The reality is more importent than their illusion

[Miraz]

I don't agree we are going backwards. It's just a very bad day. Started with poor umpiring and continued. Its a performance everybody would like to forget.

I beleive Bangladesh will come back strongly in the next series.

[Spitfire_x86]

Originally Posted by Miraz
I don't agree we are going backwards. It's just a very bad day. Started with poor umpiring and continued. Its a performance everybody would like to forget.

I beleive Bangladesh will come back strongly in the next series.

Ditto. We are definately not this bad.

This was a weird day. Everyone played like JO today. How often you see Rafique not getting off the mark after facing 10 deliveries? Just because Rajin did just as bad as JO in one match, it shouldn't mean we have to bring back JO. This is already a very demoralizing defeat. The last harm it can do is bringing back JO. Just because Rajin performed poorly doesn't mean JO would do better, especially when you see that nobody could do much better than him today.

[DotBall]

Originally Posted by Spitfire_x86
Ditto. We are definately not this bad.

This was a weird day. Everyone played like JO today. How often you see Rafique not getting off the mark after facing 10 deliveries? Just because Rajin did just as bad as JO in one match, it shouldn't mean we have to bring back JO. This is already a very demoralizing defeat. The last harm it can do is bringing back JO. Just because Rajin performed poorly doesn't mean JO would do better, especially when you see that nobody could do much better than him today.

Your passion for JO gives us hope to be optimistic.
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No one showed any urgency and plan to pace their inning except for Bashar.

[islam]

we are playing zim next? :P

[jabbar]

I wanna cry, but I have run out of tears.

[sadi]

toilakto bash abong banor.... banor ek foot upore ute tho dui foot niche name

[SS]

Originally Posted by sadi
toilakto bash abong banor.... banor ek foot upore ute tho dui foot niche name

worst than that. Atleast moneky goes up 1 inches each time and slides two inches backwards, the way we played it's like going 1 inch forward and slide down 100 inches backward. These batsmen and some bowlers are worst than monkeys. They can't even bat in this track where aussies can bat. Excuse will be dead pitch. What the heck if aussies can bat for 22 overs and get the total 124, being totoally foreigner how can you guys can't play in your own field. Instead of cricketer we should send them to village to do agriculture stuff and get familiar with the "ground". What an excuse of the field and ground.

[mhferdaus]

Originally Posted by SS
worst than that. Atleast moneky goes up 1 inches each time and slides two inches backwards, the way we played it's like going 1 inch forward and slide down 100 inches backward. These batsmen and some bowlers are worst than monkeys. They can't even bat in this track where aussies can bat. Excuse will be dead pitch. What the heck if aussies can bat for 22 overs and get the total 124, being totoally foreigner how can you guys can't play in your own field. Instead of cricketer we should send them to village to do agriculture stuff and get familiar with the "ground". What an excuse of the field and ground.

remember how many times Pakistan and India got out within that score range against Aus?

[sar2005]

Originally Posted by mhferdaus
remember how many times Pakistan and India got out within that score range against Aus?

Australia v Pakistan: Totals less than 150 for Pakistan
108 Nairobi (Gym) 2002
117 Nairobi (Gym) 2002
132 Lord's 1999
140 Adelaide 1983/84
149 Hobart 1996/97

None of above are in recent days.
Also PAK scored 13 times 250+ against with a highest of 315.


Australia v India: Totals less than 150 for India
58 Brisbane 1947/48
67 Melbourne 1947/48
98 Brisbane 1947/48
104 Mumbai 2004/05
110 Adelaide 1999/00
125 Melbourne 1947/48
135 Delhi 1959/60
136 Kolkata 1956/57
136 Kolkata 1956/57
137 Mumbai (BS) 1969/70
138 Chennai 1959/60
141 Perth 1991/92
149 Chennai 1959/60
150 Sydney 1999/00

Apart from 104 in Mumbai, none of above are in recent days.
Also IND scored 19 times 250+ against aus with a highest of 315 including 4 times 300+


Australia v Sri Lanka: Totals less than 150 for Sri Lanka
91 Adelaide 1984/85
129 Melbourne 1989/90
They never got booked below 150 in front of their home crowd.
SL scored 9 times 250+ against aus with a highest of 343 including 2 times 300+

From all above statistics of sub-continental teams, Is there any inspiration for us????????????

[mhferdaus]

Originally Posted by sar2005
Australia v Pakistan: Totals less than 150 for Pakistan
108 Nairobi (Gym) 2002
117 Nairobi (Gym) 2002
132 Lord's 1999
140 Adelaide 1983/84
149 Hobart 1996/97

None of above are in recent days.
Also PAK scored 13 times 250+ against with a highest of 315.


Australia v India: Totals less than 150 for India
58 Brisbane 1947/48
67 Melbourne 1947/48
98 Brisbane 1947/48
104 Mumbai 2004/05
110 Adelaide 1999/00
125 Melbourne 1947/48
135 Delhi 1959/60
136 Kolkata 1956/57
136 Kolkata 1956/57
137 Mumbai (BS) 1969/70
138 Chennai 1959/60
141 Perth 1991/92
149 Chennai 1959/60
150 Sydney 1999/00

Apart from 104 in Mumbai, none of above are in recent days.
Also IND scored 19 times 250+ against aus with a highest of 315 including 4 times 300+


Australia v Sri Lanka: Totals less than 150 for Sri Lanka
91 Adelaide 1984/85
129 Melbourne 1989/90
They never got booked below 150 in front of their home crowd.
SL scored 9 times 250+ against aus with a highest of 343 including 2 times 300+

From all above statistics of sub-continental teams, Is there any inspiration for us????????????

u just proved my points, and look how inconsistent Pakistan was even after winning the World Cup, come on give our boys some credit for a series hard and sincerely fought, though sometimes not that intelligently.

[Tigers_eye]

There are multiple threads to disect and criticize BD's performance. This thread is for trying to get some positives.

Bashar is really showing the boys how to bat. Starting from taking singles and getting runs. I was so critical of Bashar before this series (after the runout) but I guess he is the only true international player who have the tempartment for playing at this level. He has scored highest in the ODI series. We have learnt many things from this series.

How our pitch performs both Fatullah and Chittagong. batsmen will get use to this in future years. They will not play the rash shots.

SN is one of our corner stones, not Ashraful or Aftab (in ODI). Openning stand is so very important. We have a test batsman in Rajin (very promising). Does these help Poorfan?

[ASA]

Jabbar's post (and signature image) says it all!

[sadi]

Personally, I was pleased with bashar's batting... he was the only one who showed some kind of urgency for runs... but Rajin kept slowing him down... he takes a single in the first ball and then rajin wasted the next five balls.... or rajin played the first five balls and then took single off the last ball... it was really frustating.... there was nothing in aussie bowling... they bowled with a plan though... packed the offside with six fielders and kept bowling right outside the offstump line... if rajin could've rotate the strike, we would've scored a lot more runs.... really missed shahriar nafees's batting today.... rajin is not known for over the top shots.... and today he proved he is not even smart.... maybe a better way to say it is he is not creative... he was very much predictable and played into aussies hand... they used him like they planned.... everyone understood that except rajin himself... I am not bashing him but it was really a pathetic piece of batting

[fwullah]

Rajin played his last ODI vs. Kenya and then started playing against Australia in this series. So you can't really expect Rajin to start scoring fifties right away, especially if you consider that he was not picked for the national team for a long time in the final eleven even if he was in the 15 member team. Our next series is against Zimbabwe, but that'd be away series for us. So lets turn our focus on winning 2 away series for the first time ever. I guess Zimbabwe team will be itching to get their revenge on us in the ODI series coming up in their own backyard. We will also find it a little difficult knowing that pitches in Zimbabwe will not hlep our spinners much as it did back in January 2004 (or was it 2005?) in Bangladesh.

[ajithlalm]

I have one question. Why are the batsman defending all the bowls instead of taking singles. If they try to take 4 singles per over with a 2 or a 4 that itself will produce a huge total.

Instead of defending they should try to put the balls in gaps for singles. If start defending more and more fielders will come in the inner circle and it will be more difficult to score runs.

[Tigers_eye]

Originally Posted by ajithlalm
I have one question. Why are the batsman defending all the bowls instead of taking singles. If they try to take 4 singles per over with a 2 or a 4 that itself will produce a huge total.

Instead of defending they should try to put the balls in gaps for singles. If start defending more and more fielders will come in the inner circle and it will be more difficult to score runs.

They tried their best. But failed. Then (mainly Rajin and Ash) got frustrated and tried to hit the 5 or 6 ball. Ending up with one run or out.

[zakirc]

Originally Posted by ajithlalm
I have one question. Why are the batsman defending all the bowls instead of taking singles. If they try to take 4 singles per over with a 2 or a 4 that itself will produce a huge total.

Instead of defending they should try to put the balls in gaps for singles. If start defending more and more fielders will come in the inner circle and it will be more difficult to score runs.

The answer is, our batsmen still are in a defensive frame of mind. Apart from Shahrier Nafees nobody plays thier proper role. Aftab is trying to get going and he has the mentality but the rest simply lack the positive mental framework.

The try to get as close as possible to the total while saving thier wicket. One could say Rafique is attacking but we need to remember that Rafiq essentially is still a specialist bowler. His batting is a bonus, not something we can or should count on.

They should look at Symond's 2nd ODI batting card and style. He took 49 singles !! and took the team to 250 from a difficult situation.

[shimraj]

There are ups and downs, forwards and backwards in games. But the trick is when you go down you look down to see where you are going, same way, when you go backward, do not face forward, otherwise you will not see where you are going. Ektu atlami korlam arki. :-)