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Exactly. Playing 1 ODI and 1 T20 don't prove anything. In fact it shows the place is totally unsafe so they have to provide royal security service and that itself can't be provided more than 36 hours. If it was a regular tour, like 2 Tests and 3 ODI, that would speak the volume. With this tour PAK won't gain anything and BD players are taking a huge risk, and I highly doubt they can concentrate during the matches.
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This tour will be an absolute nonesense!
If the security is guaranteed then why not a full series?? 1 ODI and a T20...what is the bloody point here? At least, a one off Test would have been much better.
Hope our young lads are not being mere sacrificial goats for PCB and the real chagol Lota Kamal and his deal with them!!
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WC back BCF. Good to see you posting.
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True, Pak stands to gain nothing from this tour as well. Even if we tour I dont think any other Test playing country will tour there in the foreseeable future.
I have always admired Pak cricket and I wish them nothing but good. But, Pak is just not safe enough right now for ALL involved.
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Thanks, one world, bro. Good to see you, too.
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This is being discussed a lot in PakPassion but who is this "Executioner" guy? never see him on Bangla Forums and spends all his time over there.
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If the journey to Pakistan is safe and secure, we will tour Pakistan for full tours in future.
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December 22, 2012, 01:46 PM
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It's clear nobody is safe in Pakistan at the moment. Even their ministers also aren't safe. So it seems presidential security also can not assure safety for anyone.
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December 22, 2012, 01:47 PM
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If the journey to Pakistan is safe and secure, we will tour Pakistan for full tours in future.
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You mean journey by train or plane? May be Shakib's new Bugati.
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December 22, 2012, 04:33 PM
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BD players (and by that I mean all current national, A team, Academy, U-19, and domestic players) should man up and tell Lotus by way of Pappon to stuff it and that they won't tour regardless of what the ICC says.
ICC will have no qualms about throwing Bangladesh under the bus and I'm sure they will green light this tour no matter what.
I just hope we have another court order. Nothing has changed in the 8 months since we didn't tour last time. Committments against a scoundrel, cheat, and extorting board like the PCB can and should be broken like the seal of a tube of toothpaste.
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I doubt there will be another court order as local media is quite silent about this.
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Actually in terms of gluttony, lust, greed, treachery nobody can beat BCCI, PCB is just in a precarious position because of the political shambles of the country. Our politicians are no good comparatively. PCB bashing is not intended either. What we can ask unless the jungle is civilized I am not willing to go there and stay for days.
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Pak tour awaits its final assessment
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The Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) and the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) agreed that the Tigers will embark on a short two-match tour of Pakistan next month.
But the BCB president said that the
tour is hinging on two aspects -- a final security assessment and a response from the International Cricket Council (ICC) on the series.
BCB president Nazmul Hassan Papon told BBC Radio in an interview yesterday that they will send the team to Pakistan only when they feel that the security is enough for the trip. . . . http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig...php?nid=262178
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Actually in terms of gluttony, lust, greed, treachery nobody can beat BCCI, PCB is just in a precarious position because of the political shambles of the country. Our politicians are no good comparatively. PCB bashing is not intended either. What we can ask unless the jungle is civilized I am not willing to go there and stay for days.
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Our beef here is just with the PCB. And to be fair, BCCI has actually treated BCB semi-decently. They haven't ever hosted us, but I'm sure BCB never really pushed for it either instead opting to play India at home and reap the rewards instead of mere "meal allowances".
PCB has done well by giving us our only full tour ever (3 tests, 5 ODIs) in 2003, but to now bully and extort us, with their razakar accomplice Lotus Kamal, they've crossed a line. Although they now have plans of hosting India next year (yeah right?) so maybe they are acting somewhat in "good faith".
Anywho, there wasn't a media storm last time was there? There's always plenty of time [bombs] to change that at the last minute.
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Our beef here is just with the PCB. And to be fair, BCCI has actually treated BCB semi-decently. They haven't ever hosted us, but I'm sure BCB never really pushed for it either
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How can you be sure that BCB didn't try hard?
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কড়া নিরাপত্তায়ও প্রাণ গেল পাক মন্ত্রীর!
সব ধরনের নিরাপত্তাব্যবস্থ নেওয়া সত্ত্বেও পাকিস্তানের খাইবার পাখতুনখাওয়া প্রদেশের জ্যেষ্ঠ মন্ত্রী বশির আহমেদ বিলাওরের ওপর আত্মঘাতী হামলার ঘটনা ঘটেছে। সংশ্লিষ্ট পুলিশ কর্মকর্তাদের বরাত দিয়ে পাকিস্তানের ‘দ্য ডন’ পত্রিকার অনলাইন আজ রোববার এ তথ্য জানিয়েছে। ফলে পাকিস্তানে নিরাপত্তাব্যবস্থ র বিষয়টি আবারও প্রশ্নের মুখে পড়েছে।
পাকিস্তানের উত্তর-পশ্চিমাঞ্চলের খাইবার পাখতুনখাওয়া প্রদেশের রাজধানী পেশোয়ারের কিসাখাওয়ানি বাজারের কাছে আওয়ামী ন্যাশনাল পার্টির (এএনপি) এক সভায় গতকাল আত্মঘাতী হামলা চালানো হয়। এতে প্রদেশের জ্যেষ্ঠ মন্ত্রী বশির আহমেদ বিলাওরসহ আটজন নিহত ও ১৭ জন আহত হন।
হামলায় বশির আহমেদ বিলাওর গুরুতর আহত হলে হাসপাতালে নেওয়ার পর চিকিত্সকেরা তাঁকে মৃত ঘোষণা করেন। নিহত ব্যক্তিদের মধ্যে মন্ত্রীর ব্যক্তিগত সহকারীও আছেন। আহত ব্যক্তিদের মধ্যে পাঁচজনের অবস্থা গুরুতর।
পাকিস্তানভিত্তিক জঙ্গি সংগঠন তেহরিক-ই-তালেবান এ হামলার দায় স্বীকার করেছে।
এ ঘটনায় পাকিস্তানের প্রেসিডেন্ট, প্রধানমন্ত্রী ও বিভিন্ন রাজনৈতিক দলের নেতারা নিন্দা ও শোক জানিয়েছেন। দেশটির প্রধানমন্ত্রী রাজা পারভেজ আশরাফ আজ রোববার পাকিস্তানে এক দিনের রাষ্ট্রীয় শোক ঘোষণা করেছেন। এ দিন জাতীয় পতাকা অর্ধনমিত থাকবে।
পেশোয়ারের জ্যেষ্ঠ পুলিশ কর্মকর্তা ইমরান শহীদ দাবি করেছেন, খাইবার পাখতুনখাওয়া প্রদেশের রাজধানী পেশোয়ারের কিসাখাওয়ানি বাজারের কাছে আওয়ামী ন্যাশনাল পার্টির (এএনপি) রাজনৈতিক সভাকে কেন্দ্র করে কড়া নিরাপত্তাব্যবস্থ গ্রহণ করা হয়েছিল। কিন্তু নিরাপত্তাব্যবস্থ র ফাঁক গলে আত্মঘাতী হামলাকারী এ ঘটনা ঘটাতে সক্ষম হন।
নিরাপত্তা কর্মকর্তারা বলছেন, প্রায় ছয় কিলোগ্রাম বিস্ফোরক দিয়ে এ হামলা চালানো হয়েছে। ঘটনাস্থলে হামলাকারীর মাথা ও পা পাওয়া গেছে।
এদিকে দেশটির তথ্যমন্ত্রী কামার জামান কাইরা গতকাল শনিবার দেশবাসীর প্রতি নতুন উদ্যমে সন্ত্রাস মোকাবিলার আহ্বান জানিয়েছেন।
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BCB will make a final decision sometime this week, according to Papon. Any court intervention on the grounds of public safety will take place after that. This risky, meaningless and unpopular tour is far from confirmed at this point. This tour will not take place.
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PCB has done well by giving us our only full tour ever (3 tests, 5 ODIs) in 2003, but to now bully and extort us, with their razakar accomplice Lotus Kamal, they've crossed a line. Although they now have plans of hosting India next year (yeah right?) so maybe they are acting somewhat in "good faith".
Anywho, there wasn't a media storm last time was there? There's always plenty of time [bombs] to change that at the last minute.
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My point was PCB is not to be blamed for the anarchy inside the country. As a national organization their prime duty is to making sure their team plays enough cricket with quality opponents. If continuously playing in Sharzah was more profitable I believe they would not push hard for a home series. Now, what they are asking as Kabir mentioned is fair and square. If Lotus Kamal suddenly gets Razakar-minded, as per your post, or BCB responds positively why finger point PCB?
Yes, there was a media storm last time cause that time none of those "give and take" issues between PCB and BCB existed or were raised.
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Suppose Pakistan is safe. Just suppose. And lets suppose you are in the playing XI. When in the field, can you give it your 100% in terms of concentration. Wouldn't the risk of your life, no matter how safe Pakistan is, be at the back of your mind?
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Clearly Pakistan have the upper hand here in all respects. We are just being used and and that is pretty much it.
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Suppose Pakistan is safe. Just suppose. And lets suppose you are in the playing XI. When in the field, can you give it your 100% in terms of concentration. Wouldn't the risk of your life, no matter how safe Pakistan is, be at the back of your mind?
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Clearly Pakistan have the upper hand here in all respects. We are just being used and and that is pretty much it.
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It seems Pakistan is a hole of death. Though they give enough security there our players can not concentrate in the game. As a result our results also won't be good. Actually what do we wanna gain from this series?
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There is always a calm after the storm. Since the minister is killed, the storm is over and we can go for a safe and quick trip. Tehrik-i-Islam is a muslim organization and they will not attack on us. Every country has problems. I did not like that Pakistan blackmailed us. Their player will starve if we ban them. But we must forgive and forget and the show must go on.
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Tehrik-i-Islam is a muslim organization and they will not attack on us. .
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How can you be so sure?
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Tehrik-i-Islam is a muslim organization and they will not attack on us.
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Do you think their minister who had died because of the attack, wasn't Muslim? If they don't attack Muslim, then why did they attack in the mosque frequently? Why do they attack their own Muslim citizens?
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Your logic is valid, I am probably wrong. I hoped for the positive only.
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I've a question and that is why not Pakistan host Bangladesh in Sharjah as they did with other test playing nations recently?
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