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December 15, 2004, 03:59 AM
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rajin will be in the playing 11
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December 15, 2004, 04:00 AM
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Oberlin undergrad doing masters in Cornell?
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December 15, 2004, 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by Arnab
Oberlin undergrad doing masters in Cornell?
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thats a very clever observation, i'm doing undergrad at cornell...
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December 15, 2004, 05:00 AM
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The selectors decided to retain their faith in Rajin Saleh despite his poor run in recent times: he bagged a pair in the first Test, and has only scored 78 runs in his last seven innings, including four ducks. This led to speculation that he could be dropped for the Chittagong match, and while the selectors have given him one more chance, another failure against India could well put him on the sidelines for the series against Zimbabwe.
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If a player is not dropped after such a horrible performance, I doubt that he will be dropped for the series against Zimbabwe.
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December 15, 2004, 07:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by cricketfan
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The selectors decided to retain their faith in Rajin Saleh despite his poor run in recent times: he bagged a pair in the first Test, and has only scored 78 runs in his last seven innings, including four ducks. This led to speculation that he could be dropped for the Chittagong match, and while the selectors have given him one more chance, another failure against India could well put him on the sidelines for the series against Zimbabwe.
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If a player is not dropped after such a horrible performance, I doubt that he will be dropped for the series against Zimbabwe.
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I don’t believe he will be in first 11 at Ctg test and in ODI series against Ind.
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December 15, 2004, 10:49 AM
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I would like to see Rajin is playing in the playing XI.
Edited on, December 15, 2004, 3:50 PM GMT, by arafath79.
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December 15, 2004, 10:57 AM
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Oh No! two more Gollas for Rajin and two for Asharful (based on his scoring trend)?
I hope this time they has some numbers in the left of their gollas like: 10, 20, 30.... whatever...
Just anything, except those lonely gollas.
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December 15, 2004, 11:30 AM
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here is my score prediction as well as the lineup and squad. not that i want this lineup or squad, but his is what will happen, and this is the score they gonna get:
Javed: 4
Nafis : 21
Bashar: 4 (one four and caught on the next hook)
Rajin: 0 (but this time played about 30 balls)
Ashraful: 0 or 55 (depends on if he can get that first run)
Aftab: 20
Pilot 14
Rana: 32
Rafiq: 24
Taposh: 13
Nazmul:2
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total=134-189 depending on ashraful's score.
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December 15, 2004, 01:13 PM
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well, this is good in one sense. rajin know he's been given another chance. this will reduce his lack of sense of security. another thing is whatmore's being consistent with the team. let's give rajin a last chance and see what happens.
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December 15, 2004, 01:33 PM
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The team is not finalized yet!!! Read the following from the daily star [12/16/04]:
"Smarting under an innings and 140-run defeat in Dhaka, the Bangladesh think-tank is also planning to field three pacers including 'Narail Express' Mashrafee.
If Bangladesh field three specialist pace bowlers then all-rounder Mushfiqur Rahman will get the chop. Right-arm seamer Nazmul Hossain is set to make his Test debut in Chittagong and if Tapas Baishya, who had reportedly complained of slight back problems after the first Test, does not pass the fitness test another right-arm quick Talha Jubair will make a long-awaited Test return.
The Chittagong crowd might also see their local boy Aftab Ahmed in action in place of an out of sorts Rajin Saleh who scored a pair in the first Test. The 19-year-old Aftab made his Test debut at the same venue against New Zealand last month."
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December 15, 2004, 02:26 PM
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r we having test debuts in every match recently??
:duh:
sounds scary!
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December 15, 2004, 02:58 PM
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There is no option to Experience. We need to get the Experience lot back in the team.... If I were a selector my team would look like
1. Manjural Islam Rana (all rounder)
2. Nafees Iqbal
3. Habibul Bashar
4. Aminul Islam Bulbul (can bowl)
5. Md. Ashraful (can bowl)
6. Aftab Ahmed (all rounder)
7. Naimur Rahman Durjoy (all rounder)
8. Khaled Mashud
9. Md. rafiq (all rounder)
10. Mashrafee
11. Tapash/Nazmul
How COULD the selecters dropped Bulbul ... look at his test performace
Batting & Fielding
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
BULBUL 3 26 1 530 145 21.20 34.86 1 2 5 0
Durjoy 8 15 1 210 48 15.00 45.85 0 0 4 0
Just 3 matches for a player of his (bulbul) caliber.... how many times he saved bangladesh. How many times??????? WE need to stablize the team and get some confidence back. This can only be done by the Senior and experienced players not by fresh blood by any means.
SELECTORS ... wake up, think about the 140 million people rather than thinking about your own personal choice or opinion.
NEXT TIME the selectors should resign or should be fired rather than players being dropeed from the team. MR. Faruk if you see this post or it reaches you somehow please let me know how you became a selecotr (ah! chief selector) by superceeding players like Nannu, Akram etc. You are a very general calibar player and never seen you done something great!!! I as a citizen of BD and a die hard fan has every right to ask you and can challenge your ability to perform.
Enough is enough!! can't tolerate this humiliation and misery any more. We are not cats, we are tigers and we can fight hard.
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December 15, 2004, 03:00 PM
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well i am glad that they gave another chance to Rajin. So he either perform or get some good rest. I hope Golla make some run in this test. I dont think Sumon will score much because he doesnt have any brain left. Ash/Nafis/Rana/Rafique are in good form(?) sort of. Hopefully we will not be disappointed again.
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December 15, 2004, 03:06 PM
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What are you reffering to here?
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December 15, 2004, 03:32 PM
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Batting & Fielding
M I NO Runs HS Ave SR 100 50 Ct St
BULBUL 3 26 1 530 145 21.20 34.86 1 2 5 0
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Bangalee, Bulbul's avg. is 21.20 and not 34.86 !
Ok, we have Bulbul, who is 35 +
..and we have a youngster with the same avg. who is 20+
Who would you choose ?
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December 15, 2004, 03:54 PM
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Please, check the latest news from "The Star"(16-12-2004):
"The Chittagong crowd might also see their local boy Aftab Ahmed in action in place of an out of sorts Rajin Saleh who scored a pair in the first Test. The 19-year-old Aftab made his Test debut at the same venue against New Zealand last month."
http://thedailystar.net/2004/12/16/d41216040128.htm
However, the final 11 yet to be decided. According to DW: "If you want to know the final eleven better wait till Friday morning because there are other delicate things I need to work on at the moment."
That means, it's too early to comment on Rajin.
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December 15, 2004, 04:24 PM
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no one can predict whether rajin will score 0 or 60 (the max of his capabilities at this time). I think they should take a 6th batsman in aftab even if they play rajin. he should replace mushfiq. if they take three pacers that means the wicket may be similar to dhaka. again, mushfiq should be dropped even in that case. They'll probably see the wicket before naming the team.
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December 15, 2004, 05:05 PM
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Bangalee, Bulbul's avg. is 21.20 and not 34.86 !
Ok, we have Bulbul, who is 35 +
..and we have a youngster with the same avg. who is 20+
Who would you choose ?
Pundit
If average is the only criteria to select then Bulbul wouldn't have been dropped. Also In 3 test matches Bulbul has 1 ---100 & 2 --50's ... How many the youngstar has? How many games he has played for BD till now and give me one example Rajin matches the temperament that of Bulbul. If you have been following BD cricket for a while then I am sure you must have heard great Sunil Gavaskar compared Bulbul's style, game plan, shots and temperament with Javed Miandad.
I am not against youngstars but we need a combination of both in the team to succeed and should always prefer Seasonal campaigners over new bees.
Nafis, Asraful, Alok, Mashrafee, Rajin, Aftab are fresh blood with hug potential we need to nurture them properly rather than pushing them to the stage without proper preparation. That's why these great talents are lacking confidence and not performing according to expectations.
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December 15, 2004, 05:41 PM
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Now there is another twist in team selection. This rumor is from Daily Janakantha.
1. Mushfique is out ( We all know that). Talha or Nazmul will be in.
2. Masrafee will play.
3. If Tapash is unfit, both Nazmul and Talha will play (as Mushfique is out)
4. Aftab will be in.
5. Either Rajin or Javed (Surprise!!!!) will be out. Not both.
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December 15, 2004, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by bangalee
...Just 3 matches for a player of his (bulbul) caliber.... how many times he saved bangladesh. How many times???????
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13, not 3 matches... just to have it correct
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December 15, 2004, 08:46 PM
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Stop talking about the old players they are no better or worse than the current players. ahhh...
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December 15, 2004, 10:31 PM
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I think Rajib should be given one more Test to play and show something. If not then he should be put out and play domestic until he gets his consistency back.
I'm not even worry about the bowlers becoz they have performed excellently but more worried about fielding- both ground and catching.
Obviously batting is the toughest job right now!
btw- this is no "negative criticism"- some ppl gave me s**t for saying things like this!
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December 15, 2004, 10:50 PM
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If average is the only criteria to select then Bulbul wouldn't have been dropped. Also In 3 test matches Bulbul has 1 ---100 & 2 --50's
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is this just a typo or u are giving wrong stat again (like the average)?
bulbul did not play 3 matches, but 13. out of 26 innings 2 fifties and 1 centuries is not something to remember everyday u wake up.
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