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March 23, 2011, 12:56 AM
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Fault lies in the BCB not the coach-BD doesn't even have full time batting coach
Siddons has done a good job coaching. I don't think the batting issues lie with him but lies on the BCB. He's not only responsible for batting development but he's responsible for development in almost every aspect for each player as well. BCB hasn't even hired a full time batting coach. They haven't given him a good list to work with. It's a shame that people are stupid enough to blame Siddons.
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March 23, 2011, 12:59 AM
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You are right. 58 me once, shame on you; 78 me twice, shame on ME.
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March 23, 2011, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by One World
You are right. 58 me once, shame on you; 78 me twice, shame on ME.
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So it's siddons fault the team got all out for 58? This lies on the players not the coach.
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March 23, 2011, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 1212
So it's siddons fault the team got all out for 58? This lies on the players not the coach.
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So its Siddons' credit when we win and progress but posting all time lows within a span of 4 games is the players' fault?
Even in the India match, the 370 was the bowlers' fault but the 283 that was all Siddons.
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March 25, 2011, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 1212
So it's siddons fault the team got all out for 58? This lies on the players not the coach.
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So could you please what lies on coach. You are either Siddons or a pupil of Siddons who learned the trick of blaming others for his fault
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March 23, 2011, 07:52 AM
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You are right. 58 me once, shame on you; 78 me twice, shame on ME.
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"58 me once, shame on you" - so it was West Indies fault that Bangladesh was out for 58
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March 23, 2011, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Tintin
"58 me once, shame on you" - so it was West Indies fault that Bangladesh was out for 58
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March 23, 2011, 02:37 PM
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Ok... ta na hoi manlam its all BCB's fault.
Kintu Musolmaaner ek kotha..."Taklu Da must go!!"
If Siddon has indeed done a great job, he shouldn't have any problem getting even better and bigger job elsewhere. Tamim can give a recoomendation letter.
So in that case I see its a WIN WIN situation. Sometimes even a great coach need a break and need to move somewhere else and have a new start. It'same with team. Siddon repeatedly said his players doen't follow his game plan and his players are making same mistakes repeatedly. He also said this set of players should b eplaying 4 more years and will grow.
That means, even if the message is good (which is highly debatable), the messenger need to be changed for the players to follow the message, as messenger is becomming ineffective.
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March 23, 2011, 01:09 AM
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What has BCB done to improve Bangladesh cricket for the last 4-5 years? Siddons has done a lot to improve the players. BCB spent last 4-5 years prepping for hosting world cup.
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March 23, 2011, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 1212
What has BCB done to improve Bangladesh cricket for the last 4-5 years? Siddons has done a lot to improve the players. BCB spent last 4-5 years prepping for hosting world cup.
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BCB Has paid Siddons thousands of $$$$$$$$ to do that work. You make it sound like Siddons was doing it for free. Look where he has got us.
He is the specialist batting coach. He got bowling fielding coaches... so back off man.
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March 23, 2011, 10:17 AM
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What has BCB done to improve Bangladesh cricket for the last 4-5 years? Siddons has done a lot to improve the players. BCB spent last 4-5 years prepping for hosting world cup.
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& BCB has brought Siddons and kept him for 4 years, who is greater?
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March 23, 2011, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 1212
Siddons has done a good job coaching. I don't think the batting issues lie with him but lies on the BCB. He's not only responsible for batting development but he's responsible for development in almost every aspect for each player as well. BCB hasn't even hired a full time batting coach. They haven't given him a good list to work with. It's a shame that people are stupid enough to blame Siddons.
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SIDDONS himself said a lot of time he is manly a batting coach. the team management deals with the tactical and strategy issues and he is a small part of that.
anyway SIDDONS was also responsible for the security of players and food of security personnel
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March 23, 2011, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by offstump
SIDDONS himself said a lot of time he is manly a batting coach. the team management deals with the tactical and strategy issues and he is a small part of that.
anyway SIDDONS was also responsible for the security of players and food of security personnel
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Siddons coaches more than batting. A head coach has a much much bigger role than batting. They're responsible for scouting opposition teams, coming up with plans for certain games, tracking batting order and etc. You can't expect a head coach to replace the role of a batting coach.
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March 23, 2011, 01:36 AM
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No matter how many coaches you bring, I don't see it in the players, they are not good enough to compete against the big boys. Only Shakib is world class, less said about others the better. Why blame BCB or Coach? BCB has done a lot so far, bringing in Ian Pont and Julein Fountain, they are doing whatever they can, it's not their fault if our players are incompetent.
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March 23, 2011, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by munnabhai
No matter how many coaches you bring, I don't see it in the players, they are not good enough to compete against the big boys. Only Shakib is world class, less said about others the better. Why blame BCB or Coach? BCB has done a lot so far, bringing in Ian Pont and Julein Fountain, they are doing whatever they can, it's not their fault if our players are incompetent.
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all I wanted to say!
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March 25, 2011, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by munnabhai
No matter how many coaches you bring, I don't see it in the players, they are not good enough to compete against the big boys. they are doing whatever they can, it's not their fault if our players are incompetent.
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Well then! Then we need a lot more coaches. Start coaching kids from age 5. After 10 years of coaching they are bound to become good players. I actually think we need Ian/Fountain type coaches at the academy level, so we can first sharpen players with skills.
Cant we have major in cricket coaching and earn degree followed by some jobs in traning academy? We are a cricket mad nations, we should not have problem with sponsorship.
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March 23, 2011, 03:36 AM
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To me all responsibility goes to:
1.Corrupt BCB with its president.
2.Failure or Head coach/Batting Coach
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March 23, 2011, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by M.H.Rubel
To me all responsibility goes to:
1.Corrupt BCB with its president.
2.Failure or Head coach/Batting Coach
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We have the tendency to throw this word without even thinking twice....
Well BCB might be generalized for not being competent but where did u see corruption? I did not read abt any such accusation on media.
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March 23, 2011, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 1212
Siddons has done a good job coaching. I don't think the batting issues lie with him but lies on the BCB. He's not only responsible for batting development but he's responsible for development in almost every aspect for each player as well. BCB hasn't even hired a full time batting coach. They haven't given him a good list to work with. It's a shame that people are stupid enough to blame Siddons.
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well said bro
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March 23, 2011, 06:04 AM
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so if sid not using the right players for the right place why blaming bcb? Sid coached 2 t20 also. What the results were we know well. Our domestic is now more stronger...players from the domestic are doing well like imrul, shuvo, shafiul, mahmudullah, nazmul...but we r not giving them enough chances. We are relying more on the young boys. First of all think the facts first then make ur view dear friend..in 2007 we qualified both t20 and 50 over wc with vangachora team...coz coach & selectors planed well. So blame goes only to sid and rafiq...no one else.
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March 23, 2011, 06:07 AM
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so if sid not using the right players for the right place why blaming bcb? Sid coached 2 t20 alsao. What the results were we know well. Our domestic is now more stronger...players from the domestic are doing well like imrul, shuvo, shafiul, mahmudullah, nazmul...but we r not giving them enough chances. We are relying more on the young boys. First of all think the facts first then make ur view dear friend..in 2007 we qualified both t20 and 50 over wc with vangachora team...coz coach & selectors planed well. So blame goes only to sid and rafiq...no one else.
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March 23, 2011, 06:25 AM
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Siddons chewing gum...chibaite vari moja...chibao bangali
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March 23, 2011, 07:31 AM
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eki topic niye ar koto discussion cholbe?it's decided that siddons will leave.bcb is already looking for a new coach i am sure and siddons must alo be looking or has probably found a new job.
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March 23, 2011, 07:41 AM
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Look at West indies they scored only 112 in our pitch i guess the pitch is cursed
its not the players fault as well this wicket is cursed
hahahahhahahahhahahaha
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March 23, 2011, 08:15 AM
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কোচের রকমফের আছে, কিন্তু আমাদের খেলোয়ারদের আরো অনেক বেশী পরিশ্রম করতে হবে।
Ian, in his posts, hinted about the 'sport culture' of Bangladesh being different and by different he meant to say players needed to work much more harder to compete at this level.
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