Match Thread: 2nd Test - Bangladesh vs. Zimbabwe at Sheikh Abu Naser Stadium, Khulna; November 3-7

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by Gowza
BD pacers only took 2 wickets last match, both shahadat so wouldn't hold my breath unless shahadat does something. It's baffling to see rubel keep getting selected.

Not really. All our pacers suck in this format. It's like picking out whose less trash than who unfortunately

[mij]

Our selectors are mental.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
Not really. All our pacers suck in this format. It's like picking out whose less trash than who unfortunately

Yes but rubel is the worst of the lot, it's quite clear now, of course he could turn it around but he's been given 20 test matches, that's enough to prove himself and to show he's improving. Robiul, shafiul, abul would all be better picks atm, taskin as well but he can't even stay on the park unfortunately. Al Amin hasn't been threatening either, just shows that even if your are ok in shorter formats doesn't mean you'll transfer it to the longer format. Actually would be better to pick any pace prospect instead of continuing with rubel.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
I agree that barring Taylor, the rest of their batsmen are inconsistent but they all do have talent but like us, their batsmen have underachieved. It still doesn't take away the fact that they are still dangerous once they get going which is why our spinners have to continue the good work.

The current Zim team are not that talented to be honest. They do give it their all on the field. If our boys showed that level of commitment, we'd be ranked with WI/NZ/SL with the players we have right now. OK maybe not quite that good given our bowling woes, but about there. Their bowlers are pretty good, but their batting is woeful barring Taylor, Williams, Taibu who doesn't play anymore.

Now if they had Balance, Ervine Sr, and others they'd probably be as good as WI.

That being said as the last 4 tests between us shows said, ZIM are still good enough to take advantage of us beating ourselves. But if we actually play to potential for once, we'd win comfortably in ZIM and obliterate them at home.

[Gowza]

Yeah agree the zim team bar a couple of players aren't that talented, but they know how to compete despite this which is why they are competitive.

[Rifat]

Three Batsmen we must keep quiet:

Hamilton Masakadza
Brendan Taylor
Sikandar Raza

[cricbook]

If I see musy win the toss today.... I will know... We r going to have series dinner. BD NEED TO BAT FIRST FOR SEAL THE TEST.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Gowza
Yeah agree the zim team bar a couple of players aren't that talented, but they know how to compete despite this which is why they are competitive.

I'm excited about a couple of youngsters coming up...Welch and Burl. They'd have more but they leave the country as soon as they turn 18.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
The current Zim team are not that talented to be honest. They do give it their all on the field. If our boys showed that level of commitment, we'd be ranked with WI/NZ/SL with the players we have right now. OK maybe not quite that good given our bowling woes, but about there. Their bowlers are pretty good, but their batting is woeful barring Taylor, Williams, Taibu who doesn't play anymore.

Now if they had Balance, Ervine Sr, and others they'd probably be as good as WI.

That being said as the last 4 tests between us shows said, ZIM are still good enough to take advantage of us beating ourselves. But if we actually play to potential for once, we'd win comfortably in ZIM and obliterate them at home.

That's true. If their players hadn't left, they'd be a much better team by now. Definitely a team that would be on the level of WI and NZ. Instead they're relying a lot on inconsistent players barring a few. I do give them a lot of credit for the way they still fight in every match that they play.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by Gowza
Yes but rubel is the worst of the lot, it's quite clear now, of course he could turn it around but he's been given 20 test matches, that's enough to prove himself and to show he's improving. Robiul, shafiul, abul would all be better picks atm, taskin as well but he can't even stay on the park unfortunately. Al Amin hasn't been threatening either, just shows that even if your are ok in shorter formats doesn't mean you'll transfer it to the longer format. Actually would be better to pick any pace prospect instead of continuing with rubel.

They're all the same IMO. The only pacers that were really Test level were Mash and Shahadat. We know what happened to Mash and Shahadat had the goods but lacked the discipline.

Robiul looked promising but recently showed he wasn't fit enough.

Our pacers can hold up okay in ODIs but in Tests they become useless. It's a systematic problem. Our pacers just don't bowl enough long spells and hence they all have horrific averages. They just aren't conditioned to bowl in Tests. Hate to say this but I've just accepted the fact that our pacers will just make up the numbers but not do much.

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
They're all the same IMO. The only pacers that were really Test level were Mash and Shahadat. We know what happened to Mash and Shahadat had the goods but lacked the discipline.

Robiul looked promising but recently showed he wasn't fit enough.

Our pacers can hold up okay in ODIs but in Tests they become useless. It's a systematic problem. Our pacers just don't bowl enough long spells and hence they all have horrific averages. They just aren't conditioned to bowl in Tests

Part of the reason is that in domestic cricket our SLA's clean up the opposition most of the times before our pacers can have any time to hit the deck hard and bowl close to 20 overs.

In addition, we only play a handful of first class games in domestic cricket.

[Rifat]

My Lineup + Strategy for this Test:


1. Tamim
2. Shamsur
3. Mominul Haque
4. Mahmudullah Riyad
5. Mushfiqur Rahim(c)(wk)
6. Shakib
7. Enamul Haque Bijoy
8. Shuvagato Hom/(Robiul Islam if fit)
9. Taijul Islam
10. Shahadat Hossain
11. Jubair Hossain

Enamul Bijoy should keep in the 2nd and third session and Mushfiqur Should keep in the first session if we field first. Mushfiqur may be better choice as a keeper when Zimbabwean spinners are bowling..

Mushfiq should bat at #4 or #5, Most of our players struggle early on that's why they prefer to bat late in the order. Besides Tamim we do not really have genuine openers(he is 50/50 most of the time anyways).

If we survive the new ball challenge without losing our key batsmen early then we should look to post a solid total.(is 350 too much to ask?)

Doesn't need to be said but bat first.

[Donal C]

Originally Posted by Rifat
Part of the reason is that in domestic cricket our SLA's clean up the opposition most of the times before our pacers can have any time to hit the deck hard and bowl close to 20 overs.

In addition, we only play a handful of first class games in domestic cricket.

How many FC games does each side play??

[Faisal]

let the game begin

[Rifat]

Originally Posted by Donal C
How many FC games does each side play??

my best guess is around close to 10 per year( and that too only certain players) like A team or national team bound players

[Jadukor]

Mushfiq seems happy that the wicket wont be like Dhaka. He is happy that the wicket wont have pace and bounce. If our batsman cannot handle zimbabwe pacers at home I wonder what the plan is for the worldcup.

[cricketboy]

Originally Posted by Jadukor
Mushfiq seems happy that the wicket wont be like Dhaka. He is happy that the wicket wont have pace and bounce. If our batsman cannot handle zimbabwe pacers at home I wonder what the plan is for the worldcup.

Forget world cup, lets concentrate on this series.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by Rifat
Part of the reason is that in domestic cricket our SLA's clean up the opposition most of the times before our pacers can have any time to hit the deck hard and bowl close to 20 overs.

In addition, we only play a handful of first class games in domestic cricket.

I agree. As long as changes aren't made in our FC setup, our pace situation will be the same

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Donal C
How many FC games does each side play??

Current setup 10-11. 8 team round Robin NCL plus round robin BCL with a one off final. They should make the BCL two rounds which makes it 13-14 games.

[BanCricFan]

Here we go.

We bat. We are 0/1. Tamim might as well not bat. Why bother. Zim bowlers are ordinary.

[Moh899]

wtf rubel playing? no ****ing way!

[Rinathq]

dissapointed with the XI. I think Rubel will perform well but that still doesnt change the fact that he the worst seamer we have for test cricket

[Gowza]

Should have picked shafiul over rubel

[BanCricFan]

Rubel! Rubel!

Wunderbar! Ich bin sehr glücklich

[BanCricFan]

Homie is getting a match. Selectors are sticking with him. Not a bad idea.