Replacement for Mohammed Rafique

Rinathq · #1 July 14, 2010, 10:56 AM

Its been long since Rafique left. We still haven't found any spinner even close to Raffique. Sakib is an allrounder. he bowls really well. However we are in desperate need of a strike spinner. Razzaq is becoming very inconsistant and expensive. We need a substitute of Rafique. He was the bowler who was both economical and wicket taker. I dunt know a lot of players in the NCL but BCB should hunt for good spinner. Our spin attack used to be the best when Razzaq was in form and Rafique was playing. But slowly it is going away. Sakib is only one bowler. He is not a superman. He can't bowl well for 2 people. BCB tried Shuvo who failed big times. We need to find somone. allrounders, occasional bowlers won't do.

Remember, the only way we can win games is with our spin attack. Its been like that for Bangladesh all along. So why not focus on that?

I hope you guiss will provide positive feedback and info on the young talents in NCL who shows a lot of prospect for the national team.

rahat90 · #2 July 14, 2010, 11:03 AM

agreed.
time to see what saqlain sajib can do?

Nadim · #3 July 14, 2010, 11:08 AM

Noor hossain (LS) & Shaker Ahmed(SLA) might get there...or even Mahmudul Hassan (OS)/Sanjamul Islam(SLA)/Tanvir Rahman(LS)...

Mosharaf Hossain Rubel had a good chance but he ruined his own career by joining ICL...

Don't think Shuvo & Saqlain can be half as good as Rafique...So far shuvo looked ORDINARY.

Tiger Manc · #4 July 14, 2010, 11:30 AM

Man if only we had a young Mohammad Rafique and the Razzak of old. What a bowling attack we would've had. 4 economical bowlers plus an expensive wickettaker.

If given time and a good run of games, I honestly think that Shuvo will be a better bowler than Mohammad Rafique and be a lot better with the bat as well MMW!!

nycpro96 · #5 July 14, 2010, 11:42 AM

Shuvo should be tried out in the NZ tests at home. Saqlain should be tried out in some A team tours.

Miraz · #6 July 14, 2010, 11:51 AM

Shakib Al Hasan.

He promised to be lot better than Rafique in both batting and bowling. Bowling is still there but batting is going down.

Rafique was a in a different league in terms of hard work and determination, Shakib is lazy and doesn't have a very strong work ethic. If he worked as hard as Rafique, he could become top spinner of the world by a distance.

al-Sagar · #7 July 14, 2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by nycpro96
Shuvo should be tried out in the NZ tests at home. Saqlain should be tried out in some A team tours.

provided we make some spinning tracks..... not flat decks we played against england

bujhee kom · #8 July 14, 2010, 12:20 PM

What happenned to Marshall Ayub? He was a leg Spinner and a top order batsman!

Ajfar · #9 July 14, 2010, 12:26 PM

Im sure Rafique wasnt half as good as he was at the end when he was 23 or 24. Shakib has alot of time and a long lng way to go. We are not going to get a ready made Rafique. It all depends on how we develop our spinners and how much opportunity they get and also how bad do they want it.

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bujhee kom · #10 July 14, 2010, 12:31 PM

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Im sure Rafique wasnt half as good as he was at the end when he was 23 or 24. Shakib has alot of time and a long lng way to go. We are not going to get a ready made Rafique. It all depends on how we develop our spinners and how much opportunity they get and also how bad do they want it.

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Rifat · #11 July 14, 2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
Shakib Al Hasan.

He promised to be lot better than Rafique in both batting and bowling. Bowling is still there but batting is going down.

Rafique was a in a different league in terms of hard work and determination, Shakib is lazy and doesn't have a very strong work ethic. If he worked as hard as Rafique, he could become top spinner of the world by a distance.

Miraz bhai,

If Shakib wasn't lazy he would also easily become the world's greatest batsmen!

he is not that far from the world's top spinner btw...

Rifat · #12 July 14, 2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bujhee kom
What happenned to Marshall Ayub? He was a leg Spinner and a top order batsman!

still stuck at academies bro...

now you know why the Academy teams recently are so bad

we cheer for players after they score one century or several five wicket hauls we go like YAY! we found our Bangla Vettori

but then when our Bangla Vettori comes to international arena they lose it

sorry for the off-topic, but our Bangla vettori (Shuvo) is a better suited bowler for the longer version than the shorter version....BCB yet again misused yet another player

Shuvo should be the ideal replacement for Razzak in Tests!

rahat90 · #13 July 14, 2010, 01:08 PM

agree 110% with ^^
shuvo should be a test specialist ahead of razaq. maybe use razaq as odi bowler
anyway, any chance that mohamed rafique can stil come into the bd team? i think he can stil cut it at this level for another 1-2 years

godzilla · #14 July 14, 2010, 01:15 PM

Our pacers are not good, our spinners are not good, our batsmen are not good, the head of BCB are not good ... nothing is good :S

bujhee kom · #15 July 14, 2010, 01:34 PM

Tahole amar ki keu nai bhalo? Amar kichui ki nei tahole? Ami ke? Ami ki manush? Ki amar jonmo porichoi? Amar ki hobe? Spinner, pacer, batsmen ekhon ami kothai pabo?

_Rafi_ · #16 July 14, 2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rinathq
Remember, the only way we can win games is with our spin attack. Its been like that for Bangladesh all along. So why not focus

thats the main point. We desperadely need a good wicket taking spinner for winning matches.
But at this point we dont need another SLA as we already have a world class SLA. They are not effective against left handed batsmen. We need a good offspinner or a leggie for getting rid of Lefthanded batsmen. Much needed variation will also be provided by that.

Tiger444 · #17 July 14, 2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
Shakib Al Hasan.

He promised to be lot better than Rafique in both batting and bowling. Bowling is still there but batting is going down.

Rafique was a in a different league in terms of hard work and determination, Shakib is lazy and doesn't have a very strong work ethic. If he worked as hard as Rafique, he could become top spinner of the world by a distance.

Thats very interesting that you say that..I thought he was a very hard working player who has a very good attitude..if he is known as being lazy then why was he captain then? We definitely don't want a lazy player to be the captain..I actually wonder who the hard working players are then..I thought all these national team players are all very hard working..

BangladeshFan · #18 July 14, 2010, 05:35 PM

In Bd team there should be vacancies for off and leg spinners, but we really dont need a Rafiq like player as too many left arm spinners at the moment.

Dilscoop · #19 July 14, 2010, 05:39 PM

Shakib is not hard work? double-U tee ef! He became #1 ALL rounder just by sitting down and eating khichuri?

And Shakib's class is so far high above than all the current all rounders around the world. The one that comes even close to Shakib is Watson, and today he picked up his 1st test 5fw. And how many does Shakib have? And on the other hand, Vettori can't bat like Shakib. So there you go.

Shakib just lost his batting form, and that's not because he isn't hard working. It's a mental thing. Everyone goes through that.

Dilscoop · #20 July 14, 2010, 05:43 PM

I just want Razzak to go away. We need a replacement for him. Razzak needs to calm down, and return again slowly. I feel he rushed back into the side.

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Originally Posted by BangladeshFan
In Bd team there should be vacancies for off and leg spinners, but we really dont need a Rafiq like player as too many left arm spinners at the moment.

How come we haven't had a good leggie. Rafique really set a SLA culture for us. Just like in India, Sachin set a batting culture, and every kid dreams to be a batsman. In Pak, it's other way around.

Tigers_eye · #21 July 14, 2010, 06:53 PM

Not much game left and I don't think there will be any major change in the line up. Raj will remain in the team. The WC is in BD.

Tigers_eye · #22 July 14, 2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Miraz
Shakib Al Hasan.

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Rafique was a in a different league in terms of hard work and determination, Shakib is lazy and doesn't have a very strong work ethic. If he worked as hard as Rafique, he could become top spinner of the world by a distance.

If this is what a lazy boy can do I just hope I him work hard in my life time. (Head and shoulder above anyone in the world currently) He will make Sir Sobers look silly. Or the assumption of lazy is wrong.

Ajfar · #23 July 14, 2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Not much game left and I don't think there will be any major change in the line up. Raj will remain in the team. The WC is in BD.

Ya he will stay there. And I don't think he is too bad on pitches that are suited for him. And to be honest we really don't have someone in our line up who can replace him. I would like for us to go into the world cup with 2 full time spinner and one all rounder. We most likely won't be playing 3 pacers back home.

Naimul_Hd · #24 July 14, 2010, 09:14 PM

shakib is not a lazy boy...he has just become self-complacent after his achievements. There is a sign of arrogance (at least in my eyes) in his every actions whether its either batting or bowling which wasnt there 1-2 yrs ago. We are just afraid that this arrogance doesnt kill him !

Rifat · #25 July 14, 2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by asddsa
shakib is not a lazy boy...he has just become self-complacent after his achievements. There is a sign of arrogance (at least in my eyes) in his every actions whether its either batting or bowling which wasnt there 1-2 yrs ago. We are just afraid that this arrogance doesnt kill him !

this is the most likely case. I was partially inaccurate when i said he was lazy because his desire to furthur improve his game has dwindled a lot and his recent attitude only indicates that he is lazy while inherently he may be otherwise a very hard worker!