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April 8, 2015, 02:21 AM
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Dear Naimur Rahman
Dear Naimur Rahman,
Have you ever wondered why our cricket has not progressed much the last fifteen years? Have you pondered how we could shed the underdog, whipping boys tagline the world associates us with? Well one reason is we often do not value the thoughts and work done by the individuals who have helped us most in our journey. Gordon Greenidge who helped us qualify for our first World Cup, and make our first real strides in international cricket could not even come back, as the cricketing authority rebuked his stance on why Bangladesh was not ready for test cricket. How right was he? Despite all his contributions to our cricket Dav Whatmore ended his stint in a bitter way. It’s no secret the world cup winning coach endured a great deal of difficulty with administrators during his term. Jamie Siddons faced similar issues, and his contract was not extended when he could offer a lot more. Richard McIness considered the architect of Bangladesh’s present team, resigned from his role as High Performance Manager last year as he did not receive the support he required to fulfill his vision. Sometimes I wonder how far we could have gone if we paid heed to the wisdom of such world class coaches. Strangely we tend to make more noise in the cricketing world for the wrong reasons, and by publicizing your stance against Bangladesh’s current coach Chandika Hathurusingha you sir have successfully added yet another negative headline!
In 2014, Bangladeshi cricket was in a state of freefall. A culture of indiscipline, complacency, lack of processes/system set in leading to disastrous outcomes including defeats to Hong Kong, Afghanistan along with numerous spineless collapses. However you managed to put an end to the decline by appointing Chandika Hathurusingha along with a very capable support staff. Your judgment in coach selection was excellent! In a very short span of time, Hathurusingha and co have managed to turn the team around and change their fortunes on the field. Our boys now play with a lot more self belief and character. This new found belief, and organization eventually helped us succeed in World Cup 2015-winnig us admiration and respect of the world. When Bangladesh cricket is finally on such a high, it is strange that you decided to take a swing to bring everything down.
Hathurusingha’s comments on selection may have breached your code of conduct. But why couldn’t such a matter be solved in the confinements of BCB office? Why did such an internal issue have to be publicized in a way that may be embarrassing or humiliating to a person who only deserves praise for the good work he has done so far. You say it is a breach of code of conduct to talk openly against someone. Isn’t it hypocritical that you term him immature and accuse him of highlighting his own achievement over that of the team? Is that not a breach of your code of conduct? Being a former captain and long time administrator you should know our media has the habit of asking direct and sensitive questions. Ever wondered about the nuances of intercultural communication? A candid and forthright personality like Hathurusingha may tackle such questions in a direct way which may not necessarily be an attacks on a player or administrator. You would also know how certain media outlets have the habit of twisting such stories to sell their papers. It is also strange you found the coach to be glorifying his own achievements when he was crediting his charges and harnessing on the concept of teamwork.
In the given context, the given time, right after a successful World Cup and just before the Pakistan tour your stance towards the coach, the words you have chosen seem more indicative of a grudge or personal agenda. To an outsider it is seems to be a reflection of envy of the coach’s achievement and your desire to flex your muscles and show off your power. It is as if you did not care about the timing of such an outburst right before an important series. An ugly spat with the coach will not help you help you gain any recognition. It will only hurt the teams morale, demotivate the coach and threaten his continuity. Before joining West Indies recently, Phil Simmons worked with Cricket Ireland for nearly 8 years. They listened to him, implemented his ideas and worked with a long term vision. What is the longest a coach has worked with Bangladesh, ever wondered how Irish cricket has progressed so well with so little infrastructure and support? Sadly we did not learn from our mistakes from the Greenidge’s, Whatmore’s, Siddons. Please do not add to the list of mistakes. This way we will be in the same place ten years down the line-as the perennial underachievers. Solve such matters amicably, respectfully, listen to the coach-otherwise why did you hire him in the first place. Do not let the 160 million cricket crazy fanatics down. We all long for the improvement and success only qualified and capable coaches like Chandika Hathurusingha can bring us. Help them, support their vision, but do not be an obstacle.
Thanking You
A Loyal Tigers Fan
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April 8, 2015, 02:38 AM
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April 8, 2015, 02:45 AM
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ইয়েস মাস্টার পিস aricle. front page material
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April 8, 2015, 03:04 AM
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Amazing open letter! FP definitely!
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April 8, 2015, 03:19 AM
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Jeesh - may I FP it?
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April 8, 2015, 03:22 AM
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Good letter.
Another Lotus Kamal in the making. Durjoy has always been very crooked. From his Dhaka university cricket playing days till the end of his days at the national cricket team. I have always heard his politicking mentality in the team. Now he is suffering from power trip or lack there of.
He rightly pointed out that Mr. Hammer breached his code of conduct but it should've stopped there. Another stupid BCB official opened his mouth before engaging his fish brain.
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April 8, 2015, 03:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zunaid
Jeesh - may I FP it?
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That would be great Zunaid Bhai! Will send the link to the coach himself.
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April 8, 2015, 03:56 AM
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Nice Letter Jeesh
But what Naimur will pick from here is that, s"ee even my critiques agree that it was a violation of COC"
These people don't use their brains, their brains have been taken over by their greed for power & more power means more money....
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April 8, 2015, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by jeesh
That would be great Zunaid Bhai! Will send the link to the coach himself.
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Send it to Durjoy instead.... Not the coach.
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April 8, 2015, 04:05 AM
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I will be very surprised if Naimur Rahman 'MP' would be able to comprehend half of what is written in that letter.
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April 8, 2015, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jeesh
Help them, support their vision, but do not be an obstacle.
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Aisey ar ek jon. Jei jati keu uporey uthley nich thekey pa tainey dhorey... ieta amader roktey asey. HHS, "support their vision"!!! Jeesh miya, ghum thekey utho, shokal hoisey. Shopno dekha sesh koro.
(JOKE) dojog'e shob jati alada alada firepit'a thakey. Wall'er uporay guards (angels) pahara dei. keu palaitey chailey guta diye fele dei. bangali'r firepit'a kono guard nai. cause there is no need for that. If someone wants to escape the fire, others pull him down.
HHS, "do not be an obstacle" - amar tatey ki labh? That is how we think and become the chief obstacle person on any progress. becomes aim in life.
1st Grandmaster in the subcontinent (highest achievement in BD sports). Look what we did.
Nobel prize recipient - look what we did.
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"Kutta'r gaye ghi shoi na."
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April 8, 2015, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Aisey ar ek jon. Jei jati keu uporey uthley nich thekey pa tainey dhorey... ieta amader roktey asey. HHS, "support their vision"!!! Jeesh miya, ghum thekey utho, shokal hoisey. Shopno dekha sesh koro.
(JOKE) dojog'e shob jati alada alada firepit'a thakey. Wall'er uporay guards (angels) pahara dei. keu palaitey chailey guta diye fele dei. bangali'r firepit'a kono guard nai. cause there is no need for that. If someone wants to escape the fire, others pull him down.
HHS, "do not be an obstacle" - amar tatey ki labh? That is how we think and become the chief obstacle person on any progress. becomes aim in life.
1st Grandmaster in the subcontinent (highest achievement in BD sports). Look what we did.
Nobel prize recipient - look what we did.
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"Kutta'r gaye ghi shoi na."
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April 8, 2015, 09:03 AM
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Good article. Mods, please make this front page article. Hopefully it will catch Durjoy's eyes, which I doubt because he is a political person, and like other politicians here, lacks time and brain.
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April 8, 2015, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Aisey ar ek jon. Jei jati keu uporey uthley nich thekey pa tainey dhorey... ieta amader roktey asey. HHS, "support their vision"!!! Jeesh miya, ghum thekey utho, shokal hoisey. Shopno dekha sesh koro.
(JOKE) dojog'e shob jati alada alada firepit'a thakey. Wall'er uporay guards (angels) pahara dei. keu palaitey chailey guta diye fele dei. bangali'r firepit'a kono guard nai. cause there is no need for that. If someone wants to escape the fire, others pull him down.
HHS, "do not be an obstacle" - amar tatey ki labh? That is how we think and become the chief obstacle person on any progress. becomes aim in life.
1st Grandmaster in the subcontinent (highest achievement in BD sports). Look what we did.
Nobel prize recipient - look what we did.
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"Kutta'r gaye ghi shoi na."
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I dont disagree with anything ur saying bro, just wanted the article to be a bit polite and publication material
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April 8, 2015, 09:35 AM
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We'll publish it tomorrow morning BST.
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April 8, 2015, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeesh
Dear Naimur Rahman,
Have you ever wondered why our cricket has not progressed much the last fifteen years? Have you pondered how we could shed the underdog, whipping boys tagline the world associates us with? Well one reason is we often do not value the thoughts and work done by the individuals who have helped us most in our journey. Gordon Greenidge who helped us qualify for our first World Cup, and make our first real strides in international cricket could not even come back, as the cricketing authority rebuked his stance on why Bangladesh was not ready for test cricket. How right was he? Despite all his contributions to our cricket Dav Whatmore ended his stint in a bitter way. It’s no secret the world cup winning coach endured a great deal of difficulty with administrators during his term. Jamie Siddons faced similar issues, and his contract was not extended when he could offer a lot more. Richard McIness considered the architect of Bangladesh’s present team, resigned from his role as High Performance Manager last year as he did not receive the support he required to fulfill his vision. Sometimes I wonder how far we could have gone if we paid heed to the wisdom of such world class coaches. Strangely we tend to make more noise in the cricketing world for the wrong reasons, and by publicizing your stance against Bangladesh’s current coach Chandika Hathurusingha you sir have successfully added yet another negative headline!
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Thanking You
A Loyal Tigers Fan
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Do you think that Naimur Rahman have brain power to understand what you said?
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April 8, 2015, 10:20 AM
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Someone please find a way to send this to Durjoy. Making it FP won't do any good unless we deliver it to the right person I think
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeesh
Dear Naimur Rahman,
Have you ever wondered why our cricket has not progressed much the last fifteen years? Have you pondered how we could shed the underdog, whipping boys tagline the world associates us with? Well one reason is we often do not value the thoughts and work done by the individuals who have helped us most in our journey. Gordon Greenidge who helped us qualify for our first World Cup, and make our first real strides in international cricket could not even come back, as the cricketing authority rebuked his stance on why Bangladesh was not ready for test cricket. How right was he? Despite all his contributions to our cricket Dav Whatmore ended his stint in a bitter way. It’s no secret the world cup winning coach endured a great deal of difficulty with administrators during his term. Jamie Siddons faced similar issues, and his contract was not extended when he could offer a lot more. Richard McIness considered the architect of Bangladesh’s present team, resigned from his role as High Performance Manager last year as he did not receive the support he required to fulfill his vision. Sometimes I wonder how far we could have gone if we paid heed to the wisdom of such world class coaches. Strangely we tend to make more noise in the cricketing world for the wrong reasons, and by publicizing your stance against Bangladesh’s current coach Chandika Hathurusingha you sir have successfully added yet another negative headline!
In 2014, Bangladeshi cricket was in a state of freefall. A culture of indiscipline, complacency, lack of processes/system set in leading to disastrous outcomes including defeats to Hong Kong, Afghanistan along with numerous spineless collapses. However you managed to put an end to the decline by appointing Chandika Hathurusingha along with a very capable support staff. Your judgment in coach selection was excellent! In a very short span of time, Hathurusingha and co have managed to turn the team around and change their fortunes on the field. Our boys now play with a lot more self belief and character. This new found belief, and organization eventually helped us succeed in World Cup 2015-winnig us admiration and respect of the world. When Bangladesh cricket is finally on such a high, it is strange that you decided to take a swing to bring everything down.
Hathurusingha’s comments on selection may have breached your code of conduct. But why couldn’t such a matter be solved in the confinements of BCB office? Why did such an internal issue have to be publicized in a way that may be embarrassing or humiliating to a person who only deserves praise for the good work he has done so far. You say it is a breach of code of conduct to talk openly against someone. Isn’t it hypocritical that you term him immature and accuse him of highlighting his own achievement over that of the team? Is that not a breach of your code of conduct? Being a former captain and long time administrator you should know our media has the habit of asking direct and sensitive questions. Ever wondered about the nuances of intercultural communication? A candid and forthright personality like Hathurusingha may tackle such questions in a direct way which may not necessarily be an attacks on a player or administrator. You would also know how certain media outlets have the habit of twisting such stories to sell their papers. It is also strange you found the coach to be glorifying his own achievements when he was crediting his charges and harnessing on the concept of teamwork.
In the given context, the given time, right after a successful World Cup and just before the Pakistan tour your stance towards the coach, the words you have chosen seem more indicative of a grudge or personal agenda. To an outsider it is seems to be a reflection of envy of the coach’s achievement and your desire to flex your muscles and show off your power. It is as if you did not care about the timing of such an outburst right before an important series. An ugly spat with the coach will not help you help you gain any recognition. It will only hurt the teams morale, demotivate the coach and threaten his continuity. Before joining West Indies recently, Phil Simmons worked with Cricket Ireland for nearly 8 years. They listened to him, implemented his ideas and worked with a long term vision. What is the longest a coach has worked with Bangladesh, ever wondered how Irish cricket has progressed so well with so little infrastructure and support? Sadly we did not learn from our mistakes from the Greenidge’s, Whatmore’s, Siddons. Please do not add to the list of mistakes. This way we will be in the same place ten years down the line-as the perennial underachievers. Solve such matters amicably, respectfully, listen to the coach-otherwise why did you hire him in the first place. Do not let the 160 million cricket crazy fanatics down. We all long for the improvement and success only qualified and capable coaches like Chandika Hathurusingha can bring us. Help them, support their vision, but do not be an obstacle.
Thanking You
A Loyal Tigers Fan
https://guerrillacricket.wordpress.c...naimur-rahman/
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While you're at it, can you please write one of a different nature to the West Indies Cricket Board.
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April 8, 2015, 02:35 PM
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Hope this suffices. Haven't read it yet, but good initiative by Jeesh.
But Hammer is getting a bit more support than previous coaches with the BCL List A arranged ad hoc as his recommendation for PAK series.
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April 8, 2015, 04:17 PM
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Ha ha once Tutul was the trouble maker, then came Sujon and now Durjoy...we are never short of talents!!!
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April 8, 2015, 05:30 PM
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Ha ha once Tutul was the trouble maker, then came Sujon and now Durjoy...we are never short of talents!!!
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That's because we are inherently bossing type not a leader type! Naimur or Sujon(allegedly match fixer) or whoever in the those sports executive level positions, they were never a leader. All they can do is bossing around. Naimur did not let the chance go when Haturi presented even a semi-chance! Here's a quote again to show this imbeciles' bossiness,
"After I took over the position [of chairman of cricket operations committee], I told him that you have to speak to me about my committee. You won't get a result by speaking to the chairman of another committee. I will take his request to the BCB president. It is better to follow the chain of command so that we can all work properly," said Naimur.
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April 8, 2015, 05:55 PM
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very wonderfully well written.
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April 8, 2015, 09:32 PM
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But Hammer is getting a bit more support than previous coaches with the BCL List A arranged ad hoc as his recommendation for PAK series.
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Thought it was arranged to meet the demand from BCL team sponsors, did not hear it was Hathuri's recommendation.
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April 9, 2015, 02:08 AM
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Now FP-ed
An Open Letter to Naimur Rahman Durjoy
Jeeshan Mirza
A loyal Tigers fan responds to BCB’ s cricket operations committee chairman Naimur Rahman after his public rant against coach Hathurasingha’ s comments about team selection. In this open letter to the MP and a past captain of the national team, the author urges the BCB to not repeat the past mistakes that led to the departure of successful coaches like Whatmore, Siddons, and McInnes.
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April 9, 2015, 02:16 AM
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this guy naimur is illegal mp , now he thinks he is a big shot , so what if the coach says team didn't meet his choice ? why namer making ita big deal ? fired this stupid naimur with corrupt papon
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