facebook Twitter RSS Feed YouTube StumbleUpon

Home | Forum | Chat | Tours | Articles | Pictures | News | Tools | History | Tourism | Search

 
 


Go Back   BanglaCricket Forum > Cricket > Cricket

Cricket Join fellow Tigers fans to discuss all things Cricket

View Poll Results: Is Mushfiq a coward?
Yes 12 34.29%
No 23 65.71%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old March 26, 2014, 10:52 PM
Maysun's Avatar
Maysun Maysun is offline
MLC World Series I
 
Join Date: April 11, 2011
Posts: 5,909
Default Is Mushfiq a coward?

I was convinced that Mushfiq was the right guy to lead these bunch of imbeciles until the WC 2015. And to a degree, still do, as there is no one in the squad other than Shakib who has the leadership skills.

But since the last month, he has been absolutely rubbish. He has demonstrated qualities, that a leader SHOULD NOT possess. Has no courage to take a stand against the so called senior players and their attitudes, no courage to drop the non-performing players, not utilizing the better players despite the clear evidence, no preparation, nothing!

If a captain of a ship is a pussy, his crews will without a doubt, do whatever they wish and it is only a matter of time that the ship sails off course. And this is exactly, what has happened.

Mushfiq's press statements are doing more harm than good. His comrades think lowly of him and think there will be no consequence, irrespective of their performance since the leader is always backing them up.

Even if Mushy becomes all tough and tries to instill discipline, do you think the players will put up with that, since Mushy showed his true colors? I am afraid, not!
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old March 26, 2014, 11:19 PM
Night_wolf's Avatar
Night_wolf Night_wolf is offline
2018 BPL Fantasy Winner
 
Join Date: October 30, 2010
Favorite Player: Mash
Posts: 22,930

definitely not
__________________
kumbaya
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old March 26, 2014, 11:25 PM
Bonglababu's Avatar
Bonglababu Bonglababu is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: March 7, 2011
Posts: 1,091

This type of knee jerk threads need to stop. This is just a sport and we should realize our potential.
__________________
Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. - Winston Churchill
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old March 26, 2014, 11:32 PM
MHRAM's Avatar
MHRAM MHRAM is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: April 30, 2013
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Favorite Player: Sangakkara, Mike Hussey
Posts: 7,970

What? Coward? Mushfiq was the one who blasted the selectors and the lazy cricketers infront of the media.

He ofcourse, is a poor man to lead the side.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old March 27, 2014, 12:04 AM
Naimul_Hd's Avatar
Naimul_Hd Naimul_Hd is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: October 18, 2008
Location: Global City of Australia
Favorite Player: Shakib, Mashrafe
Posts: 13,524

"Coward" is a wrong choice of word.

He is a 'defensive', 'soft' and 're-active' kind of person. As a captain, it is equally important to be friendly with team mates and to be strict on any sort of indiscipline at the same time. His statement like this 'what players will think if I don't include them in main XI' certainly shows his inability to handle team's goal over personal bonding.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old March 27, 2014, 12:05 AM
Maysun's Avatar
Maysun Maysun is offline
MLC World Series I
 
Join Date: April 11, 2011
Posts: 5,909

Quote:
Originally Posted by MHRAM
What? Coward? Mushfiq was the one who blasted the selectors and the lazy cricketers infront of the media.

He ofcourse, is a poor man to lead the side.
Very true.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old March 27, 2014, 12:17 AM
Maysun's Avatar
Maysun Maysun is offline
MLC World Series I
 
Join Date: April 11, 2011
Posts: 5,909

Quote:
Originally Posted by Naimul_Hd
"Coward" is a wrong choice of word.

He is a 'defensive', 'soft' and 're-active' kind of person. As a captain, it is equally important to be friendly with team mates and to be strict on any sort of indiscipline at the same time. His statement like this 'what players will think if I don't include them in main XI' certainly shows his inability to handle team's goal over personal bonding.
I very much agree. A captain always strives for a balance but what you mentioned just now, his inability to differentiate, doesn't portray the traits of a coward?

I am not labelling him one! He has certainly stood up like MHRAM said but otherwise he has buckled up when it matters the most..

I am just asking if he is one because I am a fan of Mushy and its just that I cant decipher what he is upto!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old March 27, 2014, 12:23 AM
Maysun's Avatar
Maysun Maysun is offline
MLC World Series I
 
Join Date: April 11, 2011
Posts: 5,909

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonglababu
This type of knee jerk threads need to stop. This is just a sport and we should realize our potential.
Please do explain, how this is a knee jerk thread? I have posted this after a considerable amount of time, that is, SL tour and WT20 qualifiers.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old March 27, 2014, 12:31 AM
Sohel's Avatar
Sohel Sohel is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: April 18, 2007
Location: Dhaka
Favorite Player: Nazimuddin
Posts: 35,464

Mit'hu is many things but not a coward. He's stupid,egotistical, provincial, mean spirited and nepotistic, but never afraid with the bat.
__________________
"And do not curse those who call on other than GOD, lest they blaspheme and curse GOD, out of ignorance. We have adorned the works of every group in their eyes. Ultimately, they return to their Lord, then He informs them of everything they had done." (Qur'an 6:108)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old March 27, 2014, 02:20 AM
imtiaz82 imtiaz82 is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: March 14, 2004
Posts: 2,120

I don't think Mushy is a coward; he just lacks captaincy skills when it comes to field setting, bowling change and inspiring the team.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old March 27, 2014, 02:25 AM
Rana Melb Rana Melb is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: March 12, 2014
Posts: 3,604

He is defensive not a coward. Wrong choice of words.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old March 27, 2014, 03:11 AM
Jadukor's Avatar
Jadukor Jadukor is offline
2019 WC Fantasy Winner
 
Join Date: October 17, 2010
Favorite Player: Shakib, Brian Lara
Posts: 14,076

Mushy is not a coward. He lacks tactical knowledge as captain but as a player he is 100% committed and a fighter with the bat.
__________________
Caught Somewhere in Time
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old March 27, 2014, 03:47 AM
Zunaid Zunaid is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: January 22, 2004
Posts: 22,100

When he first debuted at a tender age of 15 against at Lords against the pace battery of Flintoff, Harmison, and Hoggard his steely composure in staying at the crease while things were collapsing around him received fulsome praise from the English press. While he did not score a lot, he faced more balls than anyone else in the innings.

Yup, he is no coward. Wrong adjective to use here.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old March 27, 2014, 04:03 AM
Tigers_eye's Avatar
Tigers_eye Tigers_eye is offline
Cricket Savant
 
Join Date: June 30, 2005
Location: Little Rock
Favorite Player: Viv Richards, Steve Waugh
Posts: 32,798

Young man just didnt watched or enjoyed enough cricket as a FAN to know the game.
__________________
The Weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the Strong." - Gandhi.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old March 27, 2014, 04:29 AM
Shaan's Avatar
Shaan Shaan is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: March 11, 2004
Location: somewhere in the GaLaXy
Favorite Player: TIGERS !!
Posts: 5,039

He is not coward but he lacks creative tactics on the right moment, also seems like he is afraid of taking risk as a captain when a game needs so much tactical moves and bit creative thougts.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old March 27, 2014, 08:11 AM
meazz1's Avatar
meazz1 meazz1 is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: June 15, 2007
Location: GA, USA
Posts: 1,358

The other side of the coin is, he is told to do certain things by upper management, therefor his hand are tied.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old March 27, 2014, 08:16 AM
imtiaz82 imtiaz82 is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: March 14, 2004
Posts: 2,120

Quote:
Originally Posted by meazz1
The other side of the coin is, he is told to do certain things by upper management, therefor his hand are tied.
I don't think upper management tells Mushy to not bowl out Shakib, bring in Farhad Reza to bowl a critical over or give Zia the penultimate over in a match. Let's just admit the fact, Mushy does not have captaincy material and needs to be removed ASAP.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old March 27, 2014, 08:37 AM
meazz1's Avatar
meazz1 meazz1 is offline
Test Cricketer
 
Join Date: June 15, 2007
Location: GA, USA
Posts: 1,358

Quote:
Originally Posted by imtiaz82
I don't think upper management tells Mushy to not bowl out Shakib, bring in Farhad Reza to bowl a critical over or give Zia the penultimate over in a match. Let's just admit the fact, Mushy does not have captaincy material and needs to be removed ASAP.
I am not defending Mushy in any way. I want him gone as the captain.
BD politics is another factor, that's all I am saying.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old March 27, 2014, 08:44 AM
Fazal's Avatar
Fazal Fazal is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: September 16, 2004
Posts: 18,718

Quote:
Originally Posted by meazz1
I am not defending Mushy in any way. I want him gone as the captain.
BD politics is another factor, that's all I am saying.
Rahim was the captain under different management: from coaches to chief selector to BCB Chairman... he was always a meen-meena captain and a bad tractician as a captain. The hope was he will slowly develop. But, it never happened, in top of it he is developing some ugly triats and some of his uglyness is slowly getting exposed.

So I think whateevr you are seeing is the true shortcomming of Rahim, nothing to do with BCB. I am not saying that BCB is not at fault for team's performance, but their faults are elsewhere.
__________________
"Make Bangladesh Cricket Great Again"
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old March 27, 2014, 08:51 AM
Fazal's Avatar
Fazal Fazal is offline
Cricket Sage
 
Join Date: September 16, 2004
Posts: 18,718

Rahim has a duel personality. As a batsman he is nowhere near "coward" and close to "brave". On the other hand as capatin he is no where near "brave"... the other side of bravery... you can call it coward, (or if its a strong word for you), soft, mean-meana, put-puta, cry baby, drama queen, whatever word you come up with.
__________________
"Make Bangladesh Cricket Great Again"
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old March 27, 2014, 09:25 AM
Maysun's Avatar
Maysun Maysun is offline
MLC World Series I
 
Join Date: April 11, 2011
Posts: 5,909

Reading some of the opinions, I need to point out the fact that I was questioning Mushy as a captain and not, Mushy the batsman!
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old March 27, 2014, 10:18 AM
roman's Avatar
roman roman is offline
Cricket Guru
BPL 2015 Fantasy Winner
 
Join Date: July 18, 2004
Location: New York
Favorite Player: Shakib, Tamim, Mash
Posts: 14,088

Mushy the captain may not be striking, but I wouldn't call him a coward. We have seen Mushy raising his voice several times over the years for his teammates..He openly criticized BPL policies when his team got eliminated from the tournament because of some adverse rules. He had the guts to condemn selection policies.

He is a brave guy but his captaincy require enhancements and obviously need to treat new comers with reverence
__________________
The mind is like a parachute, it only works when open.....Thomas Dewey
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old March 27, 2014, 11:13 AM
Beamer's Avatar
Beamer Beamer is offline
Cricket Guru
 
Join Date: December 15, 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Favorite Player: Viv Richards, Sid Crosby.
Posts: 9,732

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zunaid
When he first debuted at a tender age of 15 against at Lords against the pace battery of Flintoff, Harmison, and Hoggard his steely composure in staying at the crease while things were collapsing around him received fulsome praise from the English press. While he did not score a lot, he faced more balls than anyone else in the innings.

Yup, he is no coward. Wrong adjective to use here.
Remember the SA series? He was the only one who batted with courage. Coward is an insulting word. He is many things ( May even have a Napoleonic complex ) but not a coward. Incompetent perhaps, but not coward.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old March 27, 2014, 12:27 PM
Nafi's Avatar
Nafi Nafi is offline
Cricket Legend
 
Join Date: March 23, 2007
Location: United Kingdom
Favorite Player: Mahmudullah Riyad
Posts: 6,190

He lacks resolve, not bravery.
__________________
BD_Shardul: ''I myself will not go through the troubles of dating. I will offer a prayer that will let me know if my would be bride is compatible with me through a dream''
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old March 27, 2014, 01:00 PM
freeman freeman is offline
Club Cricketer
 
Join Date: December 11, 2006
Location: Dublin
Favorite Player: fizz, Shakib,SS,Tamim
Posts: 119

He is not a captain who can make difficult choices and clearly we need some difficult decisions to get this team up and running right now. I never liked him as a captain and certainly I am not going to start right now. He is a poor choice of captain for T20 games. We need some one like Shakib to lead our T20 team. Our T20 team should be a totally different team than Tests or ODI teams. I don't like the timing of Papon's comment but I think they are thinking rightly to make those changes after the world cup.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:44 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
BanglaCricket.com
 

About Us | Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Partner Sites | Useful Links | Banners |

© BanglaCricket