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Old March 26, 2014, 08:13 AM
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Default Nazmul Hasan, "There will be drastic change in team."

BCB Boss Nazmul Hasan Papon, "We cant make changes during a tourney. We dont have much options. But There will be drastic changes in BD team after WC T20. We lose anyway, indisciplined players will be dropped. If needed, we'll bring new foreign coach." Source: Channel 24 (bd).
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:17 AM
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Looks like Ashraful is going to be back.
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:18 AM
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Not if needed. We need a new coach!
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:19 AM
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the papon guy must go first..worthless idiot..

does he know that his over meddling with the team in the middle of the tournament is not working.....idiot doesn't realize we only played a game in the super 10
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:21 AM
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He shouldn't have made such comments at this point of time, this will hurt the team even more. I just hope the team stays in good mood for the remaining matches and we don't go from bad to worse.
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:23 AM
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Much needed therapy !
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:36 AM
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I always thought that Papon was the kind of board president BCB needed.

But to be honest, he always acts late. He has always talked about similar things like the BPL corruption scandal will be taken care of but it took eons before that happened. Then again can't blame him. Everything was looking rosy after the NZ series. Who would have thought that we would have such a slump that we would be reduced to losing to Afghanistan and HK on home turf?
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:37 AM
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This team seriously lacks discipline. The coach has no control over senior players. I came to know few incidents where it clearly shows the lack of discipline in the team. Anyone who is close to the team management, would agree with Papon.
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:40 AM
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Don't see any mention of changing the captain..the most important factor behind our recent performance.
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:42 AM
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:43 AM
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Guys...those who are pretty bullish about the remark made by Papon...don't you think we already have enough lovey-dovey talk with these 'kids' ?? Time to grow up...they are earning professionally, they have to act professionally and accept these bashing.

But new coach or not, our root problem lies in our incapability of playing against good pitches. Our wickets behave random, and the day it doesn't behave as our expectation we find our batsmen 'clueless' and plays idiotic. we are called a land of spinners...but even we struggle against quality spin attacks !!!

Another issue, I must admit, is the captaincy. It didn't seem that mushy spent enough time to analyze strengths and weakness of the opposition. Why don't we sometime going beyond our usual way and try something new?? such as, send sloggers for the opening when you are chasing big total; or constantly rotating bowlers so that the batsmen needs time to adjust...

So, the bottom line is....GOD DAMN WE NEED A SPORTING PITCH.
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:52 AM
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Don't see any mention of changing the captain..the most important factor behind our recent performance.
It will be done in time. I think teams can't change captain during a tournament unless he is injured.
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:54 AM
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It's never late to address the current issues. We still have plenty of game left in this year and then WC 2015. This very team was playing well for last 2 years, there was no talk about 'sporting pitches, poor floodlights etc' then. Why suddenly this downward performance from almost everyone ? Why is the communication gap between captain and selectors ? Who are those players who do not listen to the captain ? Why coaches look reluctant giving advices during the game ? I have watched couple of matches from the ground, and I was shocked to see some of the players attitude and body language on the field which was clearly not shown on tele.
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:54 AM
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So, the bottom line is....GOD DAMN WE NEED A SPORTING PITCH.
India doesn't have sporting witckets. All of them are as flat as a highway road.

Our problem is in the head. Ekta 50 marlei amra nijeder ke superstar mone kori. Mone kori ami next 5 ta game kharap khello o ar drop korte parbe na.
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Old March 26, 2014, 08:56 AM
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Guys...those who are pretty bullish about the remark made by Papon...don't you think we already have enough lovey-dovey talk with these 'kids' ?? Time to grow up...they are earning professionally, they have to act professionally and accept these bashing.

But new coach or not, our root problem lies in our incapability of playing against good pitches. Our wickets behave random, and the day it doesn't behave as our expectation we find our batsmen 'clueless' and plays idiotic. we are called a land of spinners...but even we struggle against quality spin attacks !!!

Another issue, I must admit, is the captaincy. It didn't seem that mushy spent enough time to analyze strengths and weakness of the opposition. Why don't we sometime going beyond our usual way and try something new?? such as, send sloggers for the opening when you are chasing big total; or constantly rotating bowlers so that the batsmen needs time to adjust...

So, the bottom line is....GOD DAMN WE NEED A SPORTING PITCH.
I think you are absolutely right about our team never studying the weaknesses of the opposition. They don't and its a huge problem because we bowl with no plan. Field setting usually does not coordinate with how bowler is bowling. Mushy cannot give any clear instructions to bowler because he has no idea how to force a batsman to hit only in certain parts of the field. All he does is tell the bowlers to bowl short once in a while and hope that it produces a lucky catch (which we end up dropping because either they are too nervous or simply do not practice catching).

Other teams always bowl to our players weaknesses and they fall for it every time. For example, Tamim goes hard at everything outside off stump and his cuts are often in the air so field setting is placed based in that, and its how he often falls. Lots of our players are guilty of getting out this way....Mominul as well.

Shakib is weak against slower delivery and sometimes plays cross bat to a ball that should be played straight.

If they were sincere professionals they would look to build on these problems and also study each opponent they play.
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:10 AM
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There is time and place for everything. Was it really necessary for Papon to comment like this in the middle of a world cup? What kind of a message is he giving to the players? This is the time to cheer them up, definitely not the time to deject and intimidate them.

These issues should have been addressed years ago. Disruptive behavioral issues are nothing new. Two players are like virus. It infected the whole team long time ago. They have simply overlooked it. Now in the middle of a world cup he is talking about this just to be popular. Typical..
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:15 AM
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His words can have 2 effects, it can either spore the useless morons in the team to perform and keep their place or it can demoralize them even more

at this point more demoralized players cant be more worse then the situation already is, so i guess papon mia was right to say this words in the middle of the tournament

now the real question is when will Mr. popcorn i mean papon go?
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:22 AM
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What big change? Who is he going to replace them with?

The A team with Kayes, Jahurul, SN, Siddiqui, Shahadat are a joke. The U-19 batch gets kicked out of WC by AFG and are happy winning plates.

The current bunch is the best we got. And it seems like the current batch is lacking the most sense and discipline. Sad but true!!

Bring back Ashraful. At least he can impart his corporate knowledge of running a successful restaurant business and bring strict business ethics into the team.
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:22 AM
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We have already reached our lowest point. Lost to Afganistan, Hong Kong, played shamelessly against WI. Papon can't do any worse
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:26 AM
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ya, I'm not too happy with this type of statement in the middle of an important event, knowing that we have three more matches left.
The only positive impact it may have is on the coaches, Jurgensen & the fielding coach will be scared of Papon khalu now, and the coaches will now become more strict & serious on our players which will be a good thing.
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:27 AM
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BCB Boss Nazmul Hasan Papon, "We cant make changes during a tourney. We dont have much options. But There will be drastic changes in BD team after WC T20. We lose anyway, indisciplined players will be dropped. If needed, we'll bring new foreign coach." Source: Channel 24 (bd).
What an idiot!!! He is still saying If needed.
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:28 AM
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i hope the drastic change he is taking about is hiring a new captain
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:32 AM
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It will be done in time. I think teams can't change captain during a tournament unless he is injured.
Extraordinary situation demands extraordinary action.. The bold move to change the captain should have been taken right after the Srilanka series and Asia cup. This T20 worldcup at home is the biggest chance we have to show progress to rest of the world... If we did well here, we would have earned our due place in the cricketing world.

2015 Worldcup in Australia will be tough regardless of who the captain is, fast bouncy pitch will be hard for all subcontinent teams.

Anyways, also don't understand why Mushy doesn't work on his captaincy and on field strategy, it's just 20 overs to shuffle the bowlers. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to learn the basics..
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:33 AM
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There is time and place for everything. Was it really necessary for Papon to comment like this in the middle of a world cup? What kind of a message is he giving to the players? This is the time to cheer them up, definitely not the time to deject and intimidate them.

These issues should have been addressed years ago. Disruptive behavioral issues are nothing new. Two players are like virus. It infected the whole team long time ago. They have simply overlooked it. Now in the middle of a world cup he is talking about this just to be popular. Typical..
Absolutely correct. Everybody in this team from management to the players doesn’t have commonsense. I can see that nobody in the Bangladesh team is enjoying their game taking the game as 9am to 5pm office hour. They r just trying to fulfill their very own duty and hence failing miserably. Just look at the batting of mominul yesterday. That poor kid was just trying to save his own ### rather than thinking about the team.

I don’t think too much drastic change will be helpful at all. Yes it will send strong message to the players that nobody is above the team and if u cant perform u will be kicked out. But this will also make the players insecure which may hamper their performance especially whn we r in the middle of the tournament.
 
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Old March 26, 2014, 09:33 AM
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I always thought that Papon was the kind of board president BCB needed.

But to be honest, he always acts late. He has always talked about similar things like the BPL corruption scandal will be taken care of but it took eons before that happened. Then again can't blame him. Everything was looking rosy after the NZ series. Who would have thought that we would have such a slump that we would be reduced to losing to Afghanistan and HK on home turf?
Then we should not blame Mushy as well according to your logic.

Actually Mushy and Papor are acting in the similar fashion. No accountability at all. They like to blame others for the problem while forgetting that they failed to lead as expected.

The leaders are there to lead, to predict the future and to act accordingly. What good Papon has done so far to justify his position? He doesn't seem to have the guts to keep the whole cricketing show under control. Since his appointment, he love to sit idle and make few comments when the situation is really bad.

Where are the actions? What did he do to control the BPL problems? Could he fix BPL? It's stopped now. Papon has to take the liability for it.

He is a complete IDIOT in my book without any gut and intelligence.
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