Where's my boarding pass? ...

[Zunaid]

JS commenting on the loss:

I think their minds were already on the plane home, I'm not sure they were here to play.

source: IHT

[Sohel]

Mayer ranna, bouer dabrhani, ma ar bouer kyat-kyatani, ar amader dhatani.

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
Mayer ranna, bouer dabrhani, ma ar bouer kyat-kyatani, ar amader dhatani.

Eto kisuteo jokhon kaam hoy na, tokhon beton kata chara r ki ba korar ase?

[prantika]

it was such a heart crackin match...!!!!..
i keep wonderiing...what made them play so badly!!!!..
what is it..?????........

[Roni_uk]

this match was waste of time for everybody - bd players, paki players, fans - good i missed it (or was there anything to miss!)

[Shobha]

to me this comment seems like he's rather defending them than justify their actions. i dont understand why he cant just tell it like it is, our batsman cant deal with extra bounce, our bowlers have forgotten how to take wickets.

[Sohel]

Originally Posted by Shobha
... i dont understand why he cant just tell it like it is, our batsman cant deal with extra bounce, our bowlers have forgotten how to take wickets.

Spot on observation, add quality spin and doosras to that.

[Zunaid]

Originally Posted by Shobha
to me this comment seems like he's rather defending them than justify their actions. i dont understand why he cant just tell it like it is, our batsman cant deal with extra bounce, our bowlers have forgotten how to take wickets.

He is neither defending nor justifying.

He is showing his exasperation. Had JS hair, he would, after this, look like how he looks like now.

[bdchamp20]

Originally Posted by Zunaid
He is neither defending nor justifying.

He is showing his exasperation. Had JS hair, he would, after this, look like how he looks like now.

Lol! Anyway atleast he is getting stricter with his wordss.

[Zunaid]

I am changing the title of this thread...

[al Furqaan]

we defintely can't play extra bounce - but all subcontinental teams struggle with. if they hadn't india wouldn't have been the first subcontinent team to win a test at Perth in the 50+ years that subcontinent teams have been playing there. our batsmen are short, and no matter how technically gifted they are, the bounce factor will always hurt us. we have to play around that weakness.

i would venture to say that JS' comments were fairly accurate. there is no way that 100 all out represents our cricket ability accurately. not against a 5th string pakistani bowling attack. its summed up by nazimuddin and raqib throwing their wickets away (thats as long as i watched). with nazim we were effectively a wicket down already. same as the JO era. raqib is not the type of batsman to throw his wicket away which meant he wasn't really there today, he was already on the plane halfway to jamalpur.

[Zunaid]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
.... he was already on the plane halfway to jamalpur.

nitpick alert.

No airport @ Jamalpur. I assume you meant "Bhua"-pur.

[Mahmood]

Isn't it the Coach's job to keep the players focused and motivated? I remember reading in papers how angry Davmore got after a loss to Sri Lanka, the cold team meeting and very next match, we won.

Yes, it is a baby sitting job.

[Gowza]

siddons comment is bascially saying the players didn't really want to be their and that's why they did so badly. actually he's having ago at the players really for not trying their best. is it the coaches job to keep players focused and motivated? i guess the coach has some factor in that, but like everything else, the coach can only do so much then the rest is up to the players.

the coach can try and keep them focused and motivated all he wants but if the players don't listen and take it in it's hardly the coaches fault. the most frustrating thing about this match isn't the loss, it's the way they lost. they had a poor outing the match before, that in itself should motivate the players to do better the next match. it's unacceptable to have 2 poor matches in a row.

[Eshen]

Now it seems we made a big blunder not hiring McInnes. McInnes knew our boys well and would have done much better to deal with this kind of attitudes.

Siddons, unfortunately, is still stuck with his identity as a specialist batting coach and is struggling to fit into the role of a head coach. What we need now is someone besides Siddons in team management who knows those boys well and can instill some positive thinking in them (my preference - Sujon or Bulbul).

[AsifTheManRahman]

Originally Posted by Eshen
Now it seems we made a big blunder not hiring McInnes. McInnes knew our boys well and would have done much better to deal with this kind of attitudes.

Never too late. Unless we improve dramatically, it is likely that Siddons will not stay after his contract expires (unless he really likes money, but even then, he might fail to get an extension). How long is McInnes teaching the ladies?

[Baundule]

This comment proves JS's inability as a BD coach.
I do not know when this guy will claim a fair share of his contribution to all these failures. He is always busy to condemn the players and thus save his back.

[Beamer]

In a hurry to go home? Well, put them on a container ship from Karachi to Chittagong. That should do it.

[nsd3]

What about the players - are they morons?

[Sohel]

When the "motivator" passes the buck and expects players to "self-motivate", something smells funnier than it should.

The great parenting experiment where infants must learn to "self-soothe", has created serial killers and NHL primadonnas named Cindy and Lindy.

[Zunaid]

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
When the "motivator" passes the buck and expects players to "self-motivate", something smells funnier than it should.

The great parenting experiment where infants must learn to "self-soothe", has created serial killers and NHL primadonnas named Cindy and Lindy.

Exactement.

It is not an issue of lack of motivation from one party or the inability to motivate by the other.

It is something more serious. I am referring to the sins of commission and not the sins of omission.

Are the antics of JS seriously demotivating the players? We've had really days under Dav; We have seen him angry but he never questioned the ability of the team to play at this level. He may have felt so but he never let it on.

One of the first thing JS said to the boys when he came on board was essentially this: "You are not good enough at this level. Why don't I just set this low bar so that at least neither you nor I will be too humiliated".

Yeah, I know. I have kind of joined the "critical of JS" posse. As I was watching the game, I was taken aback by the players body language. I could hear loud and clear. They were not there in spirit. Under the avancular guidance of Dav, they at least showed heart.

[Gowza]

definition of motivation: "Inner strivings of individuals that direct behavior. Unsatisfied desires create the motivation to act with purposeful behavior to achieve gratification."

another definition: "Motivation is intrinsic (internal); it comes from within based on personal interests, desires, and need for fulfillment. However, extrinsic (external) factors such as rewards, praise, and promotions also influence motivation."

siddons can influence motivation, but it has to come from within first. maybe he's not doing anything to influence their motivation externally, but they should still have their own goals which should drive them. motivation is mainly an internal thing, siddons job is to help continue that motivation by giving things such as incentives, rewards, praise etc.

[kalpurush]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
we defintely can't play extra bounce - but all subcontinental teams struggle with. if they hadn't india wouldn't have been the first subcontinent team to win a test at Perth in the 50+ years that subcontinent teams have been playing there. our batsmen are short, and no matter how technically gifted they are, the bounce factor will always hurt us. we have to play around that weakness.

i would venture to say that JS' comments were fairly accurate. there is no way that 100 all out represents our cricket ability accurately. not against a 5th string pakistani bowling attack. its summed up by nazimuddin and raqib throwing their wickets away (thats as long as i watched). with nazim we were effectively a wicket down already. same as the JO era. raqib is not the type of batsman to throw his wicket away which meant he wasn't really there today, he was already on the plane halfway to jamalpur.

I think players are not happy with Sidons, thus, he lost his place in the team. This might be one of the reasons why our players are NOT motivated like they were in DW's era.

[thebest]

This is what I was telling loud for the last few monthes JS is not good enough to be a head coach. He is a good batting coach nonetheless. I do not know what is the job description but publically humilating players about their ability is not one of them. We were worsely even during DW era (specially last match), but never saw performance so uninspired. Did not the same team defended 144 againest England in WC? Yesterday we did not find any zeal from our players. I saw the same thing in the first test match agaienst SA. Players just went through the motion. There is some serious flaw on JS motivational skill.

[Miraz]

Can we give a permanent boarding pass to JS please??!!