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View Poll Results: Should Pakistan do any or all of the following?
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Acknowledge its crimes against humanity and the Bangladeshi people committed during 1971?
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Unconditionally apologize for the aforesaid crimes?
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Offer mutually agreed upon reparations for the aforesaid crimes?
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Proactively assist the ICT and bring alleged war criminals on its soil to justice?
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Maintain its current narrative of denial and misguidance and do none of the above?
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November 9, 2012, 10:58 PM
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Dhaka seeks Pak apology for 1971 genocide; Hina for moving ahead turning back to the past!
Dr. Dipu Moni demanded that Pakistan acknowledge and unconditionally apologize for its crimes against humanity and the Bangladeshi people during 1971, and her (considerably hotter) Pakistani counterpart Hina Khar pretty much told her, and most of us not including RazPols and Bangalistanis, to simply let bygones be bygones and move forward!
Here's a great comment from the DS blog:
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1. Pakistan must apologize for the atrocities done in Bangladesh in 1971.
2. Pakistan must put the 1971 perpetrators on trial.
3. Pakistan must compensate Bangladeshi victims of the atrocities in 1971.
4. Pakistan must repatriate all Biharis from Bangladesh.
5. Pakistan must give share of the wealth before 1971 plus interests to Bangladesh.
Only then, we can move forward.
: Truth Teller
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Here's another one:
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Pakistan's FM remark that we should move forward,is not only arrogant but demeaning.I fully endorse Truth Tellers list of what needs to be done before we can move forward,& PM's visit .We have nothing to lose.
: niloufar sarker
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Here's the article:
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PM to visit Pakistan to attend D-8 summit
Dhaka seeks Pak apology for 1971 genocide; Hina for moving ahead turning back to the past
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina has decided to pay a three-day official visit to Pakistan to attend the D-8 summit in Islamabad scheduled for November 22.
Hasina goes to Pakistan against the background of her government asking Islamabad to settle all pending post-independence issues. Dhaka has demanded an unconditional apology from Islamabad for the genocide Pakistan carried out during the Liberation War in 1971.
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I don't think she should visit that country before Pakistan acknowledges and unconditionally apologizes for its crimes. We'll talk reparations after that.
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November 9, 2012, 11:13 PM
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Of course her party the PPP and its millions of supporters played their part in actively supporting their crimes against humanity and the Bangladeshi people in the name of "national and Islamic" unity. In fact, their hero Bhutto (may he rot in hell) was one of its primary architects.
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November 10, 2012, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Sohel
, and her (considerably hotter) Pakistani counterpart Hina Khar
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You couldnt resist throwing that in, could you ?
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November 10, 2012, 12:12 AM
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^Impossible to overlook that.
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November 10, 2012, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sohel
^Impossible to overlook that.
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Well she said to bury the past so you ave to move on. So we bury our bodies as well as our past.
From the Nation (PAK)
Pakistan tells Bangladesh to ‘bury the past’
By: Agencies | November 10, 2012
DHAKA – Pakistan told Bangladesh to carry forward bilateral ties by ‘burying the past’ when former East Pakistan demanded a formal apology from Islamabad for the alleged excesses committed by its troops during the 1971 war.
Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar, who was on 6-hour tour to Dhaka, also invited Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina to attend 8th D-8 Summit to be held in Islamabad on November 22.
The apology issue came up in a meeting of the foreign ministers of the two Muslim South Asian states, which had began their journey of freedom together in 1947 as a single state but were separated in 1971 as a result of Pakistan-India war, preceded by New Delhi-stoked insurgency in the Eastern wing of the united Pakistan.
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November 10, 2012, 02:26 AM
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Quote:
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^Impossible to overlook that.
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Exactly. To be frank, i was watching all her news only to see her
And what we have 'Shahara Khatun' !
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November 10, 2012, 12:33 AM
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Well hello deeeeare Hina!
Back to topic, what a bitch!
@ BD, you waited 40+ years to do that? Did this thought pop up just right now? What were you doing for past 35 years?
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November 10, 2012, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dilscoop
Well hello deeeeare Hina!
Back to topic, what a bitch!
@ BD, you waited 40+ years to do that? Did this thought pop up just right now? What were you doing for past 35 years?
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Actually, they've been doing this on and off for 40 years - not with much effort nor success. Global politics get in the way you see.
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November 10, 2012, 02:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilscoop
Well hello deeeeare Hina!
Back to topic, what a bitch!
@ BD, you waited 40+ years to do that? Did this thought pop up just right now? What were you doing for past 35 years?
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You may have forgotten, out of those 35 years, our past ruling parties (i assume you know who they are) were more interested in making 'Bangladesh' a part of 'Pakistan' just as before 71.
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November 10, 2012, 01:06 AM
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Well send me over there to Ms Khar, and I will fix that.
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November 10, 2012, 01:07 AM
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I think Hasina should pay visit to Pak. Khaleda's visit to India is equally appreciated. I think there is a conscious effort in the region for resolving all internal issues and move ahead for greater economic interest.
Logically a Pak apology will make the way smooth, but all the others look very un realistic. Bihari's have been granted nationality here and financial claims are unnecessary, if we want to move forward.
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November 10, 2012, 01:27 AM
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Well, can't blame her. She is just the messenger.
Nothing will happen until the over egoistical ISI Generals are ready to accept and acknowledge.
The govt is merely a puppet.
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November 10, 2012, 02:57 AM
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November 10, 2012, 03:22 AM
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Great find indeed. Bangla rocks! I feel sorry for those NRBs unable to read the language.
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November 10, 2012, 03:37 AM
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Nice ...
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November 10, 2012, 01:08 PM
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Ami 'nice read' boltei parbo nah. Shobdo ta thik shunai nah ei prekhapotei.
Ami joto bar ei otachar, khun, dhorshon, itadir beparei pori, amar raag ar kanna uthei...
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November 10, 2012, 01:12 PM
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Thank You
Chokher Pani Atkanor Cheshtha koreo atkate parlam na..Shei shaddho amar nei. Pakistan khoma chaileo 71 ki bangali ra kokhono bhulte parbe? Kokhono ki bhulte parbe?
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November 10, 2012, 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roman
Thank You
Chokher Pani Atkanor Cheshtha koreo atkate parlam na..Shei shaddho amar nei. Pakistan khoma chaileo 71 ki bangali ra kokhono bhulte parbe? Kokhono ki bhulte parbe?
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It will still be difficult, specially for the families of the victims and those who have witnessed that situation. But, then almost all the stories of the history of wars that mankind has witnessed are like this. There is no pleasure in the history of war for a human beng. Yet a sincere apology can be a feel good factor for them even if that can't heal the wounds, to move forward, considering that these things won't be repeated against anyone. Preserving enemity, hostility & Hatred neither helps the victims nor good for preventing future atrocities. If anyone sincerely apologizes, he should be given a chance of being human.
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November 10, 2012, 03:21 AM
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At this rate, we will never get a formal apology off topic: She's incredibly beautiful :|
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November 10, 2012, 06:59 AM
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She's aight looking...there are tons of better looking pakistani girls...maybe not in their ministry but out and about.
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November 10, 2012, 07:21 AM
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Read this article yesterday and googled her and ..it was disturbing
anyway, nothing new ,this apology thing has started long ago.
Who wants to move forward with them? u can only move backward or u go forward but it won't be a straight path.
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November 10, 2012, 02:14 PM
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Round # ?
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November 10, 2012, 02:26 PM
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This article of PA has some, good comments from the readers:
PA Article
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November 10, 2012, 10:03 PM
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Anyone knows how they portray our liberation war in Pakistani text books? I'm sure they are not writing what really happened in their history books.
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November 10, 2012, 10:08 PM
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Anyone knows how they portray our liberation war in Pakistani text books? I'm sure they are not educating their youth in what really happened.
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Sorry for the blanket generalisation, but I will say they do not educate their youth on anything and are in denial over everything. Yesterday on BBC, they were in denial about Malala Yusufzai and believe her story to be a foreign conspiracy. As far as education policy goes, have a read from this on their education policy, written by my father's civil service batchmate from pre-1971.
A steaming pile of crap if ever a country was one. They have only themselves to blame. I dont "need" an apology from Pakistan. I am proud to be a Bangali and Bangladeshi and proud of our achievements inspite of Pakistan.
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