Why Ashraful Called for One Day International (Asia Cup)

[Shamim Mia]

Originally Posted by AK420
Without Ash, BD is incomplete

this is a fact!!!

when ashraful falls (loses his wicket) "Every loses the momentum and wickets starts to fall one after the other".

Ashraful Brings fear to the lower order and the middle order!!! ( he is the run out disaster man for bangladesh).

so take Ashraful away from the team, the team will have no fear and strike like they did when everyone was in ICL.

Take Ashraful away and Give Raqibul Hasan the chance? even if Raqibul doesnt score any runs he can stay in the crease for 50 balls atleast which will give the other players to do so damage.

[Shamim Mia]

Originally Posted by bangladesh_sy
if he can pull that off that victory he will be set for life. The next day there will threads all over BC thanking the great legend Ashraful and everyone will forget about everything else like his average and the innovative he way he gets out

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I disagree with you, am not with you in this point?

unless Ashraful scores 3 century in a row then its unlikely people with open such thread anymore, becuase it took people 10 years to see how much of a flop ashraful is.

I am from england and when they won the Test Series, my next door neighbour went "this crazy bangladeshis" which made me feel ashamed. they were obviously english neigbours, so i had to reply with this, "Bangladesh is corupt itself, so how would u expect the bangladesh team not to be the same".

[Shamim Mia]

Originally Posted by offstump
so this is what ashraful is 1 good innings every 10 matches, 1 match winning innings every 50 matches

Yes True 100% fact lol

[Hatekrew]

well first of all i didn't know a lot of bangalis think stuff like this is offensive (because most people i know wouldn't think of it as 'offensive' or 'vile')... and commot? lol u mean toilet bowl?

well at least i know this is one reason why i don't like living in bangladesh cuz most of the people in our country are hypocrites. they go around saying stuff, and seeing stuff... but if they see someone saying/doing something they get all conservative and righteous on them.

anyways... i think ashraful should be given one more chance. but this should be his last chance. he should be a senior player by now who can guide newer, younger players like junaid, imrul, mahmudullah, etc. instead he is there wasting a batting slot. rajin saleh is a good replacement i think.

[simon]

Originally Posted by Shamim Mia
this is a fact!!!



Take Ashraful away and Give Raqibul Hasan the chance? even if Raqibul doesnt score any runs he can stay in the crease for 50 balls atleast which will give the other players to do so damage.

Thik bolchen Shamim miya,The Rock deserves a chance,he might be an emotional or sentimental guy but he is a hard worker,has a decent avrge,grt in the field.

[Nadim]

Originally Posted by Shamim Mia
I disagree with you, am not with you in this point?

becuase it took people 10 years to see how much of a flop ashraful is.

shamim miah, ash hasnt played 10 yrs of int cricket yet(still 10 or more months left). So be4 making any point pls get ur stats right

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[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by simon
Thik bolchen Shamim miya,The Rock deserves a chance,he might be an emotional or sentimental guy but he is a hard worker,has a decent avrge,grt in the field.

People have to forget about what rock did and move on..if he can help our cricket then who cares what he did in the past? I know hes a boring batsman with a not so great SR but as simon says (no pun intended) he is a hard worker and has a decent average in ODIs..dont forget also he built some crucial partnerships with some of our star batsmen..if imrul is doing fine then why cant roqibul? I feel their very similar players..also he seems to be the better option then the current ash..nazim could also get the chance as well as he's the in-form batsman but I prefer a batsman that focuses on building partnerships..we already have enough dashing batsmen in our lineup in my opinion..I agree rock has some ways 2 go in terms of his batting but I believe that siddons will make him improve over time..

[alibangali]

I dont see any benefit in roqibuls inclusion, he does not score big nor quicklly. If you score slowly you must make sure you get runs at the end of it even a 50 of 200 balls (in tests) or 50 off 75 balls (in ODi). Also He seems to lack he technique to play in international game plus his ego is way too big. It would be better for us to give a chance to some one like Naeem/Riyadh up the batting order instead of ash and play Shuvo lower down since he has not had the required number of games to prove himself.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by alibangali
I dont see any benefit in roqibuls inclusion, he does not score big nor quicklly. If you score slowly you must make sure you get runs at the end of it even a 50 of 200 balls (in tests) or 50 off 75 balls (in ODi). Also He seems to lack he technique to play in international game plus his ego is way too big. It would be better for us to give a chance to some one like Naeem/Riyadh up the batting order instead of ash and play Shuvo lower down since he has not had the required number of games to prove himself.

That actually might not be a bad idea to move naeem up at 3 or 4 and have mahmudullah at #5..the thing is I dont know how naeem is with pace..since hes always played down the order, he plays when the ball is old and usually has to face 10-15 overs at the end of the innings..I just dont know how he'll be..I've been pretty satisfied with him down the order, so giving him a chance in ODIs up the order isn't bad but in tests thats 2 risky..ya we have a lot of options now.. 1 is bring back roqibul and slot him at #4 and have naeem and mahmud be the finishers..2nd is bring naeem and riyad up the order and have shuvo and mash play as the finishers..both of those options seem to be a much better option then playing ash up the order for sure..

[alibangali]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
That actually might not be a bad idea to move naeem up at 3 or 4 and have mahmudullah at #5..the thing is I dont know how naeem is with pace..since hes always played down the order, he plays when the ball is old and usually has to face 10-15 overs at the end of the innings..I just dont know how he'll be..I've been pretty satisfied with him down the order, so giving him a chance in ODIs up the order isn't bad but in tests thats 2 risky..ya we have a lot of options now.. 1 is bring back roqibul and slot him at #4 and have naeem and mahmud be the finishers..2nd is bring naeem and riyad up the order and have shuvo and mash play as the finishers..both of those options seem to be a much better option then playing ash up the order for sure..

This question needs to be answered and the only way we will know is to give him some innings (5 minimum) up the order. Its safer to have him play up the order then bringing in a newcomer since he's had international exposure and we have seen that he does posses some batting skills.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by alibangali
This question needs to be answered and the only way we will know is to give him some innings (5 minimum) up the order. Its safer to have him play up the order then bringing in a newcomer since he's had international exposure and we have seen that he does posses some batting skills.

The thing is why hasn't team management not him up the order by now? Only team management knows this question..naeem imo has been a decent finisher for us but he really is a top order batsman and he ideally should be at #3 or 4..the big problem with roqibul has been that he doesn't sight the ball early enough and thats the reason he ends up defending..his boundary hitting ability and single taking ability needs work but to his credit he hardly throws his wicket away which is due 2 his good temperament..naeem on the other hand has good boundary hitting skills and is an explosive batsman but he 2 really struggles 2 rotate the strike as well..and even though he has good temperament he throws his wicket away at times..naeem has looked very explosive at times but also very sluggish for example, 3rd ODI vs england..he has had other games like that which is a cause of concern..honestly speaking I feel like roqibul and naeem are on the same level..sure naeem has better qualities but he hasn't been anything extraordinary, not even on the level of mushfiq and mahmudullah..I rate tamim and shakib (world class) the best batsmen we have and then its mushy, mahmudullah, zunaed (above average/average) and then its naeem, roqibul, imrul (average)..ash/aftab/SN are below average batsmen in my opinion..

[cricket_king]

Originally Posted by Hatekrew
well first of all i didn't know a lot of bangalis think stuff like this is offensive (because most people i know wouldn't think of it as 'offensive' or 'vile')... and commot? lol u mean toilet bowl?

well at least i know this is one reason why i don't like living in bangladesh cuz most of the people in our country are hypocrites. they go around saying stuff, and seeing stuff... but if they see someone saying/doing something they get all conservative and righteous on them.

anyways... i think ashraful should be given one more chance. but this should be his last chance. he should be a senior player by now who can guide newer, younger players like junaid, imrul, mahmudullah, etc. instead he is there wasting a batting slot. rajin saleh is a good replacement i think.

Man forget about that douche. No one listens to him, and nor should you.
Anyway, Ashraful always gets that "one more chance". Personally, I don't mind it. It appears to me that we can't really win any games at the moment. Not unless you give us West Indies, and we're in with a shot. Otherwise, our hapless bowling line-up will ensure we give the game away long before it has really started. So presuming we don't really have anyone who can win the game for us single-handedly, I'd put my money on the one guy who has pulled it off more than once.
Oh and Rajin Saleh? LOL. Even Rakibul Hasan is more useful than that guy - and Rakibul Hasan ain't useful.

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by Hatekrew
well first of all i didn't know a lot of bangalis think stuff like this is offensive (because most people i know wouldn't think of it as 'offensive' or 'vile')... and commot? lol u mean toilet bowl?

well at least i know this is one reason why i don't like living in bangladesh cuz most of the people in our country are hypocrites. they go around saying stuff, and seeing stuff... but if they see someone saying/doing something they get all conservative and righteous on them.

anyways... i think ashraful should be given one more chance. but this should be his last chance. he should be a senior player by now who can guide newer, younger players like junaid, imrul, mahmudullah, etc. instead he is there wasting a batting slot. rajin saleh is a good replacement i think.

I don't know why you listened 2 him and actually changed your avatar haha..in the future let the mods tell you..AK420 is new 2 the site so he really has no power..

rajin saleh isn't the most popular name on this site but I honestly think he wouldve been a handy test player for us..definitely a better player then ash in tests..his average is higher and he has a much better temperament..24 tests with an average of about a 26 with seven 50's is pretty good..selectors should not have totally ignored the guy in my opinion..his experience would be good 4 us in tests..

[al-Sagar]

Originally Posted by Tiger444
I don't know why you listened 2 him and actually changed your avatar haha..in the future let the mods tell you..AK420 is new 2 the site so he really has no power..

rajin saleh isn't the most popular name on this site but I honestly think he wouldve been a handy test player for us..definitely a better player then ash in tests..his average is higher and he has a much better temperament..24 tests with an average of about a 26 with seven 50's is pretty good..selectors should not have totally ignored the guy in my opinion..his experience would be good 4 us in tests..

rajin saleh anyday over raqibul hasan ..... ......

we really wasted rajin's potential.

he by now actually should been our captain or about to be captain

[alibangali]

Originally Posted by offstump
rajin saleh anyday over raqibul hasan ..... ......

we really wasted rajin's potential.

he by now actually should been our captain or about to be captain

Shame really that our selectors are biased. Given a bit more time he could have been a good holding player allowing the the likes of TI and Co to play. He was more reliable than Imrul and as his avg suggests he did contribute to the team score. I feel he was just a centrury away from keeping his place, since he did not get that century selectors thought we need more ash typle players and got rid of him.

[lamisa]

Originally Posted by alibangali
Shame really that our selectors are biased. Given a bit more time he could have been a good holding player allowing the the likes of TI and Co to play. He was more reliable than Imrul and as his avg suggests he did contribute to the team score. I feel he was just a centrury away from keeping his place, since he did not get that century selectors thought we need more ash typle players and got rid of him.

i think he is a player of riyad's calibre

[Tiger444]

Originally Posted by offstump
rajin saleh anyday over raqibul hasan ..... ......

we really wasted rajin's potential.

he by now actually should been our captain or about to be captain

In ODIs I would take roqibul but in tests ya I would take rajin over roqibul, imrul, ash anyday..I feel roqibul has more talent then rajin but he's not as ready as him..the thing with rajin is that you knew he could last 200-300 balls..for ODIs obviously he wouldve been poor but we need a player that can play those 200 ball 50's..he has that rock solid temperament that is required 4 test cricket..

http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/con...ry/299976.html

I just want everyone 2 look at this story..he is by far our best batsman in terms of temperament..you compare him 2 ash and he is a much better test batsman then him..its just a shame that our selectors have not persisted with the players..instead we're giving players who are just not ready 4 test cricket..he didn't do well last domestic season but hopefully he starts performing and our selectors give another look 2 him..

[beshideshi]

If I am not mistaken, Raijn Saleh captained Bangladesh in 2004 Champions trophy, also during a ZIM tour he took the captaincy. The problem with Rajin Saleh was, at one stage he wasn't able to get any runs and I am not talking about inability to get 50s. He got four 0s and one 6 in his last 6 innings. So it sort of justifies his exclusion. But I always liked Rajin Saleh, his mental strength, willingness to perform was better than others. Though he is not a naturally gifted batsmen, I would prefer him over many "naturally gifted" Batsmen.
I think we could use him in our middle order to inject some experience into the team.

[Zeeshan]

shamim bhaijan match thread kobe khulben....amar ken jani money hoitese apni jotdin porjonto na khulben totodin porjonto amra jitun parum na.....

[Tiger Manc]

What the heck? This is a joke! Why isn't Nazimuddin selected ahead of Ash? Even Aftab scored a 46 in his last match so he would've been handy. I thought we might have a chance of winning some matches in the Asia Cup, but it seems not.

[Shamim Mia]

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