Match Thread: Second Test - West Indies vs Bangladesh @ Gros Islet, St. Lucia, WI; September 13-17, 2014

[DMan]

Originally Posted by al Furqaan
The ball is not moving around. Very poor shot selection has resulted in 5 of the six wickets. Only Taylor bowling Rahim was a good one and even that didn't move much.

Yea just like most of WI wickets batting against BD, very poor shot selection.

[DMan]

Tailender throwing their hand at everything now, this shouldn't be long.

[DMan]

....and so said so done, tailender hits it in the air.

[NoName]

These morons should only be paid as much relative to their performances. Easy money, free vacations/trips etc etc and nothing to show for it.

[Holden]

Got to question the wisdom of deciding that Tajiul was a number 8

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by DMan
Yea just like most of WI wickets batting against BD, very poor shot selection.

Can't disagree.

[al Furqaan]

Originally Posted by Holden
Got to question the wisdom of deciding that Tajiul was a number 8

So was Elias Sunny who couldn't even afford batting lessons from Chris Martin.

[NoName]

might as well forfeit the match

[Zeeshan]

Looks like Ian is back...lol

[DMan]

Was hoping they got all out before end of day, oh well tomorrow then.

[Vua]

Absolutely pathetic.
Batting has been horrible this year.

We are right to be called minnows. Well, thank you Mr. Law for showing us a glimpse of light and for making us believe our morons were actually something

[Tiger444]

The sooner Afghanistan and Ireland get their Test status the better it will be for us. Even then these teams will not just languish at the bottom forever, especially Ireland. We're just proving again and again that we just aren't good enough for this level. We can really only beat Zimbabwe and the associates. Time for us to accept that

[Rana Melb]

Why Anamul did not shine in test cricket and did really well in odi? Is it the mind set or technical..

I thought he has overcome his issues.

This Shamsur guy is not a test material. Selectors are morons; they should groom someone like shadman who can be a genuine test opener.

[al Furqaan]

Anamul dismissal was dumb and freakish and lucky for WI all at the same time. He got out while leaving the ball. I think Mominul too got out in freakish fashion. Rest of the wickets were soft too except Rahims.

We will probably get ,120-130 before following on. Avoiding the follow on will be a near miracle. Tail is long. Its up to individual brilliance to put up some resistance and make them bat again.

[nynemesis]

Originally Posted by Rana Melb
Why Anamul did not shine in test cricket and did really well in odi? Is it the mind set or technical..

I thought he has overcome his issues.

This Shamsur guy is not a test material. Selectors are morons; they should groom someone like shadman who can be a genuine test opener.

He had a bad luck today , he us definitely one of the good test batsman just needs to give him little more time on test , he was doing well until the unlucky out

[Gowza]

given anamul's ODI success, his ton scoring ability and FC consistency i think he warrants some time in the team. BD needs batsmen who can score tons consistently, mominul and anamul seem to be the youngsters who have the ability to do it more consistently than others (including the senior national team batsmen).

think of it like this, mominul has 3 tons in 8.5 matches so far, he could have 6 or 7 tons (perhaps more) by the time he's played 30-40 matches, that would equal or best BD's most test tons for a player, anamul has similar ability and could be one who could do something similar but we must stick with them. i think mushy if he gives up the gloves will be able to score tons more often as well, tamim has the ability even if he's not done it for a few years, if he reaches some decent form again we could see a few tons. shakib is always a bit of a wild card, has the ability but tends to fall short of tons in the longer format.

potentially a line up of:

1 tamim
2 anamul
3 mushy (without the gloves)
4 mominul

with shakib at #5 or #6. anamul, mushy and mominul are good stayers at the wicket and also at least currently the most likely to score tons. it's not a bad looking line-up imo. and as much talent as shamsur may have, well 7 tons from 73 FC matches shows his ton scoring ability, imrul is a bit better at 8 tons from 62 matches but still they need to step it up to keep a spot in the test team because: anamul - 8 tons from 37 FC matches, mominul - 7 tons from 38 matches, tamim - 9 tons from 59 FC matches. it's why a player like asif ahmed - 7 tons from 31 FC matches should be getting at least A team games and why naeem - 13 tons from 77 FC matches is always going to be in the hunt if he keeps being consistent and shows something in A team games.

if the batting keeps being as it is then naeem should be a serious consideration. hom has 5 tons from 35 FC matches, not as prolific as anamul, tamim, mominul, naeem and asif but it's still much better than what imrul, shamsur, junaid, even mushy, shakib and nasir have shown in FC consistency.

[Rana Melb]

Can anyone tell me how imrul and Shamsur are better than naim in test? Naim has better techniques and most importantly mind set for test cricket. I don't think he has given ample opportunities.

We must think our test top order and batting order. We can only compete with Zimbabwe to be honest.
Also surprised the speed of our pacers.it was seldom reach 130k. They looked so tired.

[SS]

it's so alarming to see top order and middle order all batsmen are without forms..this is horrendous..

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by Rana Melb
Can anyone tell me how imrul and Shamsur are better than naim in test? Naim has better techniques and most importantly mind set for test cricket. I don't think he has given ample opportunities.

We must think our test top order and batting order. We can only compete with Zimbabwe to be honest.
Also surprised the speed of our pacers.it was seldom reach 130k. They looked so tired.

well the issue with naeem is that he's pretty much a 4-6 batsman. imrul and shamsur are batting 1-3. so naeem is really competing with mominul, mushy and shakib, of course for this series he was also competing with riyad who batted higher up than normal, i guess he's also competing with nasir a bit as well, hom obviously was brought in as a bowling all rounder given he batted at #8 and naeem certainly isn't a good enough bowler for that role in tests.

true naeem hasn't been given enough test match chances, he's seen as a limited talent which i think is another reason why he's left out of selection a bit.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by SS
it's so alarming to see top order and middle order all batsmen are without forms..this is horrendous..

nasir's spot must really be up in the air unless he can pull off a good score in the 2nd innings, with shakib coming back and riyad making that 60 odd and nasir not making many runs for awhile it's surely putting questions in the selectors minds. i'd give hom a run instead of nasir, he's already in the squad, had a good account with the ball in his 1 match and has a lot of batting talent. otherwise naeem comes back into the picture, at least he can stay at the wicket for a bit.

[SS]

5.2
Roach to Shamsur Rahman, OUT, and he's gone! It was sliding down the leg side, poor ball really, and Shamsur looked to flick and only got a little tickle on it. Ramdin was already moving towards the leg side, and then he threw himself further in that direction to take the catch one-handed
Shamsur Rahman c †Ramdin b Roach 1 (23m 12b 0x4 0x6) SR: 8.33
Bangladesh 14/1 Tamim Iqbal 13* (20b 1x4) KAJ Roach 2.2-1-4-1
18.3
Roach to Anamul Haque, OUT, Roach earns a well-deserved reward but Anamul will be kicking himself in the manner in which he was dismissed. Bowls in that same fourth/fifth stump line outside off as Anamul, who was trying to withdraw the bat, ends up being a tad late as the ball hits the bottom of it to spoon a chance to the slip fielder, who was only too willing to grab at it
Anamul Haque c Bravo b Roach 9 (63m 39b 0x4 0x6) SR: 23.07
Bangladesh 43/2 Tamim Iqbal 32* (60b 4x4) KAJ Roach 7.3-2-12-2
24.4
Roach to Tamim Iqbal, OUT, Roach is simply world-class as he is paid for his perseverence outside off, as Tamim, just two runs shy of a well-earned fifty, ends up chasing after this back of a length ball which tails away, pushing at it feebly before Ramdin completed the take
Tamim Iqbal c †Ramdin b Roach 48 (118m 75b 6x4 0x6) SR: 64.00
Bangladesh 62/3 Mominul Haque 3* (22b) KAJ Roach 10.4-4-21-3
27.5
Taylor to Mominul Haque, OUT, what a catch that is! That was short, and he was looking to punch that square on the off side, with the angle, but it came back into him, and flew off his inside edge to the right of short leg, and Blackwood dived full-length and took a simply magnificent one-handed catch. He would have had no idea the ball was coming his way, considering where Mominul was looking to hit it, so to react that quickly was just unearthly
Mominul Haque c Blackwood b Taylor 3 (46m 34b 0x4 0x6) SR: 8.82
Bangladesh 65/4 Mushfiqur Rahim 2* (8b) JE Taylor 9.5-2-21-1
31.4
Taylor to Mushfiqur Rahim, OUT, timber! This one cuts in from outside off, and removes the off stump from its mooring after finding the gap between Mushfiqur's bat and pad. Lovely length, had him pinned to the crease to open up that gap
Mushfiqur Rahim b Taylor 4 (39m 22b 0x4 0x6) SR: 18.18
Bangladesh 68/5 Mahmudullah 0* (9b) JE Taylor 11.4-4-21-2
32.1
Roach to Nasir Hossain, OUT, and another. This one straightens just outside off, and Nasir pokes away from his body and nicks it through to the keeper. Roach now has four
Nasir Hossain c †Ramdin b Roach 1 (3m 3b 0x4 0x6) SR: 33.33
Bangladesh 69/6 Mahmudullah 0* (9b) KAJ Roach 14.1-5-25-4
34.6
Roach to Taijul Islam, OUT, they had a third man two-thirds of the way back, and Taijul has dumped this straight into his hands. Was always coming, considering the length Roach was bowling, and considering how uncomfortable he was looking against that length. Slashed at this, and it went straight to the man placed there for that very shot. Five wickets for Roach

source: cricinfo

Speechless! but anticipated and as expected with BD team. BD Selectors and BCB still not fixing where the problem relies. Enough of just picking players like musical chairs but not fixing real issues.

[SS]

Originally Posted by Gowza
well the issue with naeem is that he's pretty much a 4-6 batsman. imrul and shamsur are batting 1-3. so naeem is really competing with mominul, mushy and shakib, of course for this series he was also competing with riyad who batted higher up than normal, i guess he's also competing with nasir a bit as well, hom obviously was brought in as a bowling all rounder given he batted at #8 and naeem certainly isn't a good enough bowler for that role in tests.

true naeem hasn't been given enough test match chances, he's seen as a limited talent which i think is another reason why he's left out of selection a bit.

What was the justification of selecting Nasir when he is not in form and why he is not playing in Zimb A..why not BCB doing anything for prep for Aus/Nz in worldcup our batsmen will be blown away by the pacers.

[Gowza]

Originally Posted by SS
What was the justification of selecting Nasir when he is not in form and why he is not playing in Zimb A..why not BCB doing anything for prep for Aus/Nz in worldcup our batsmen will be blown away by the pacers.

Because it's BCB, plus even nasir has been out of form that's been shorter formats as we haven't played much test cricket lately, got a ton in the practice match to so he can't be completely out of form.

[Eshen]

Originally Posted by Rana Melb
Why Anamul did not shine in test cricket and did really well in odi? Is it the mind set or technical..

I thought he has overcome his issues.

This Shamsur guy is not a test material. Selectors are morons; they should groom someone like shadman who can be a genuine test opener.

Just curious - what makes you think Shadman will be any better?

In their U/19 days, Shamsur and Anamul looked more promising.

[Roni_uk]

Oh wow.. what a surprise! we are following on? That is just impossible!