Best orthodox spinner in the world

[Afridi2Belfast]

With the rise once again of leg spinners thanks to Abdul Qadir and the advent of genuine doosra bowlers - who is the best old fashioned orthodox spinner in the international game?

[jayed]

i'd say you've probably missed out some. you've missed out saqlain.

there are others, like udal.

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[jayed]

but i doubt rafiqe should win. i know he will. bcos he's bdeshi and this a pro-bd site. i think vettori is the best

[Locutus]

Daniel Vettori
No Question

[Donny]

Vettori by a long way.

Saqlain is an offie. So is Udal.

[jayed]

practically every1 up there is an offie, its just they're all left arm, i think. if ur referring to leggies, none of the above r.

4 leggies, i think mushtaq ahmed is class.

obiviously shanewarne, but it dont work dat way

[nas]

Originally posted by jayed
practically every1 up there is an offie, its just they're all left arm, i think. if ur referring to leggies, none of the above r.

4 leggies, i think mushtaq ahmed is class.

obiviously shanewarne, but it dont work dat way

u need to work on ur english vocabulary

Orthodox spinner is the traditional finger spinners.
warne, nushi, and most leggies are wrist spinners.

Edited on, March 26, 2006, 6:04 PM GMT, by nas.

[jayed]

no thank u, my friend-
mre like u go back 2 ur crummy sw england to learn vocab. unless u think none of the above r offies

donny was sayin saqlain and udal are offspinners.
but practically every1 above are offies, so i corrected him, unless he was mistaken 4 leggies so thats y i said mushi and etc,

[Afridi2Belfast]

Saqlain bowls the doosra hence he is not there.

[nayef]

Originally posted by Afridi2Belfast
With the rise once again of leg spinners thanks to Abdul Qadir and the advent of genuine doosra bowlers - who is the best old fashioned orthodox spinner in the international game?

i think u r talking abt left-arm orthodox spinners here.
just orthodox would mean off-spinners ... since there is a right-hand bias is cricket.

but yeah.. at this point of time.. the choice is vettori

[Afridi2Belfast]

An orthodox spinner is an old fashioned FINGER spinner - left or right handed.

A doosra bowler or a leg spinner is an UNORTHODOX bowler.

[nayef]

Originally posted by Afridi2Belfast
An orthodox spinner is an old fashioned FINGER spinner - left or right handed.

A doosra bowler or a leg spinner is an UNORTHODOX bowler.

I'm afraid there's no such "doosra bowler"
As doosra simply is a delivery which goes the other way. In legspin, such a delivery is called googly. However, there was nth defined for offspinners until Saqlain called his one a "doosra". Hence the name. Nowadays, most off-spinners have it in their armoury. If someone were to bowl doosras consistently, he'd rather be a leg-spinner!

[jayed]

an wats so unorthodox bout doosra?

in every way, in england, they call it 'arm ball' in aussies i dunno.

but googly has been around 4 2 centuries.

and it is used by every legspinner for the past century, if u guyz think abdul kadir, and mushi r not traditional leggies, who r? hey? paul adams?

and THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'DOOSRA' BOWLING. its a type of delivery, u cant say there is a yorker bowler, or a bouncer bowler.

doosra is the offspinners googly, it comprosises of using the wrist, yes, but also with fingers.

there aint no doosra.

and vettori is some doosra bowler, infact murali taught him in the world xi-v-aussies how to perfect it.

in matter of the terms,

vettori is the best.

only a idiot would think rafique is.

[bdmoderator]

Mohammad Rafique.

[Donny]

A left arm finger spinner is known as 'left arm authodox'.

A right arm finger spinner is known as 'right arm offbreak'

Afridi2Belfast has thrown us a doosra by including Jeetan Patel, an offie, amongst a list of left arm orthodox bowlers.

One can reasonably assume this is a mistake as Murali or Bhajji are not on the list but perhaps A2B could enlighten us ?

jayed, with your lack of English skills, I think you should be careful when calling anyone 'a idiot'. Correctly, it's an idiot.

An 'arm ball' is not a doosra, in England or anywhere. It's simply a ball that doesn't spin.

[Baundule]

Monty Panesar

[Baundule]

Originally posted by jayed
in matter of the terms,

vettori is the best.

only a idiot would think rafique is.

If you are so sure, why did you care voting in a poll?
And if you think, only idiots will think Rafique as the best which respect do you offer for the others? Curios of your 'true' class?

Edited on, March 28, 2006, 3:13 PM GMT, by Baundule.

[Tigers_eye]

Among the bowlers mentioned in the list, stats speaks loudly. Vettori by miles.

[jayed]

donny, i am writing in 4eely, i dont care bout spelling grammar etc. this is not a school essay i'm writing, is it?
and em, loox like we have found the hypocrite-
QOUTED BY U-
'left arm authodox' well, i swear u spell the last word like this- orthodox? mmmmm.

and arm ball, ok.

a doosra doesn't have 2 spin, does it? no. a googly by mushi doesnt always spin does it?

and dudes, i knew i'd get negative feedback, but rafiq, IN REALITY isnt beta den

[nas]

jayed u are a tooser,

doosra is bowled so the bowl spin a bowl the opposite way than how a bowler normally spins the ball.

it doosra dont have to spin, why attempt it? u would be better of bowling an arm bowl of quicker one.

it attempted doosra doesnt spin, it because the bowler got it slightly wrong or the pitch isnt assisting.

u comment " a doosra doesn't have 2 spin, does it? no. a googly by mushi doesnt always spin does it?"
its basicly like saying a yorker dont have to pitched at batsman toe, a low full toss would do.

Edited on, March 28, 2006, 9:37 PM GMT, by nas.

[jayed]

well, dosra is a disguised ball, that looks like somthing else, than tryin 2 bowl arm ball

[Donny]

Originally posted by jayed
donny, i am writing in 4eely, i dont care bout spelling grammar etc. this is not a school essay i'm writing, is it?
and em, loox like we have found the hypocrite-
QOUTED BY U-
'left arm authodox' well, i swear u spell the last word like this- orthodox? mmmmm.

Yes, quite right, jayed. It is 'orthodox'. I stand corrected.

However, I wasn't referring to your spelling so 'hypocrite' is a bit harsh.

What is '4eely'

[cricbb]

Mohammad Rofique because due to the limited talent he has.

[jayed]

4reely- my friend is a way of saying 'freely'. in nowadays, the text message generation, this is a common lingo.

for instance-
jayed,
74Y3D

and sorry for the hypocrite title, and i didn't know what specifically u were referring 2 since u said 'lack of english skills'.

[Spitfire_x86]

l33t speak = unacceptable