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August 22, 2011, 02:00 PM
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Too much T20 spoils Sakib’s spin --coach Mohammad Salauddin
Too much Twenty20 cricket has substantially reduced Sakib al Hasan’s ability to spin the ball, observed his former coach and mentor Mohammad Salauddin.
Apart from the final one-dayer, Sakib was a shadow of his usual self with the ball in the recently-concluded Test and one-day series against Zimbabwe – something which many believe affected the team’s performances on the tour.
Sakib’s proven bowling prowess has contributed heavily to the team’s recent successes but the left-arm spinner’s tally of six wickets in five matches fell well below his own high standards.
‘He tended to bowl with a flat trajectory which reduced the spin in his deliveries. This is perhaps because he played too many Twenty20 matches in recent months and so he was always wary of conceding runs rather than attacking the batsmen,’ said Salauddin.
The man who coached Sakib since his early days at the BKSP observed: ‘Sakib usually gets the ball to drift in the air before it turns away after pitching while the other deliveries hold their line but this feature in his bowling was seldom apparent on this tour.’
After the World Cup, Sakib has solely played in the shortest format of the game, firstly with the Kolkata Knight Riders in the Indian Premier League and then with his county side Worcestershire in the Friends Life Twenty20 competition.
Salauddin, a former fielding coach of the national team who also assisted the spinners at different times during Jamie Siddons’ tenure, said the spinners failed to enjoy much success in Zimbabwe because they could not sketch out a proper gameplan to utilise the surfaces.
‘The wicket would have helped the Bangladeshi spinners if it was prepared to give flight to a delivery and allow it to turn. I think they [spinners] could not adjust to the wicket,’ said Salahuddin.
This is one of the reasons, Salahuddin identified, why the other left-arm spinner Abdur Razzak was not successful in the series.
In Bangladesh’s previous series against Zimbabwe, Razzak equalled the world record with his feat of three successive four-wicket hauls that included a hat-trick, in as many games. But surprisingly against the same side he picked up just one wicket in four matches and that too of a tail-ender in the final ball of the 50th over.
Bangladesh were even forced to drop Razzak for a game, a move which was previously unthinkable.
‘The spinners needed to deceive the batsman in the air and that can only be possible if you know how to spin the ball,’ Salahuddin said.
‘Turn depends on the wicket but if there is no turn you still have to continue bowling. That is when one has to drift the ball or drop the ball which the Bangladeshi spinners failed to do,’ he added.
Salahuddin was surprised to see Sakib lacking the aggression that he thought was one of his best qualities which helped him become the bowler he is today.
‘I think Sakib lacked the aggression that he possessed as a wicket-taking bowler. He looked like a defensive bowler perhaps because the wicket did not have much to offer but that was a mistake,’ said Salahuddin.
‘He is the kind of bowler who can be aggressive in any wicket because he has the ability to spin the ball,’ said Salahuddin
http://newagebd.com/newspaper1/sports/30957.html
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August 22, 2011, 02:31 PM
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It sounds logical. Spinners will learn from it. Thanks for posting.
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August 22, 2011, 03:23 PM
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Which successful spinner has been able to bowl in T20s, ODIs and Tests without it affecting their bowling? Warne retired from ODIs and Tests ages ago, as did Kumble, Murali only plays in T20s now...Vettori? Afridi?! I imagine that it's quite difficult to change your mindset and bowling style continuously and I hope that Shakib's coach and mentor Mohammad Salahuddin is able to help him make such an adjustment.
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August 22, 2011, 03:59 PM
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Salahuddin didn't address the main issue. Shakib played with an injury in his spinning finger. Probably that didn't allow him to spin the ball.
We have seen him bowling less number of overs in the test match due to this reason.
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August 22, 2011, 04:20 PM
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Why everyone is pointing Sakib only? What about Razzak's bowling??????
Considering 1 year non-stop cricket & tiny injury in the spinning finger..Sakib has done very good...He is not superman....and u expect perfect Batting,Bowling,Captaincy altogether!!!!!
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August 22, 2011, 05:31 PM
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Shakib better start bowling more overs in FC cricket. Bangladesh relies heavily on him to deliver in flat pitches. Concern about the damage T20 is doing to his bowling is well observed, but no one can stop a player from earning easy money. If ICC is serious about preserving test cricket, they really need to reserve a month or two in the ICC calender for T20 season. Nothing else will do I am afraid.
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August 22, 2011, 05:56 PM
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I am surpised that shakib was actually bowled with his injured spinning finger.
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August 22, 2011, 07:33 PM
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this is more of a meaningful interview/article.
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August 22, 2011, 09:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Awla
Why everyone is pointing Sakib only? What about Razzak's bowling??????
Considering 1 year non-stop cricket & tiny injury in the spinning finger..Sakib has done very good...He is not superman....and u expect perfect Batting,Bowling,Captaincy altogether!!!!!
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lakh taka'r question ar koti taka'r analysis. Yet our coach failed to analyze the real problem (Raz). At least Shakib had a reason - finger injury.
Actually even with koti taka BD cannot produce another Shakib. Get with the program - Mo Rafique has retired. Get him to open camps ASAP.
As for Salauddin, your expectation is what? Shakib should have gotten all 10 wickets? Who was the best spinner in series? Did you notice the pitches prepared this time around? Instead of blaming Shakib blame 'Tamim' and 'all 6 marungga players' for the T20 exposure!! Jottoshob. dui sho kortey amshi tight!!! 4 for 40, 5 for 50, 6 for 60.
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August 22, 2011, 10:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
As for Salauddin, your expectation is what? Shakib should have gotten all 10 wickets? Who was the best spinner in series? Did you notice the pitches prepared this time around? Instead of blaming Shakib blame 'Tamim' and 'all 6 marungga players' for the T20 exposure!! Jottoshob. dui sho kortey amshi tight!!! 4 for 40, 5 for 50, 6 for 60.
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August 22, 2011, 11:44 PM
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It's not Shakib alone, our entire bowling unit performed poor in Harare. I dont think t20 has anything to do about it.
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August 23, 2011, 12:41 AM
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He bowling has been ok in terms of stats but his bowling looked more like t20 bowling live. I understand he is having injury problems, but I can't recall a solid bowling display from him this year (excluding IPL and County)
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August 23, 2011, 02:23 AM
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Lol still he's massively outperformed Razzak etc. Shakib needs rest maybe, but why blame t20s? Guess people love to blame t20s for everything (as much as i hate t20s)
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August 23, 2011, 04:47 AM
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Hope i don't get blasted for this, but R.Ashwin bowls superbly both in T20's and ODI's, hardly changes his style. But he's early in his career.
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August 23, 2011, 06:06 AM
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Bowling flat on these conditions isn't a bad idea.
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August 23, 2011, 08:44 AM
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Shakib will play more T20 before the WI Series. Hope this doesn't deteriorate his skills further.
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August 23, 2011, 09:05 AM
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no one's blaming shakib alone here. he's the best spinner, so expectations are high from him. that's why he's used shakib's name. relax guys, salauddin is a well wisher of bd cricket and the players respect him a lot too
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August 23, 2011, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
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Hope i don't get blasted for this, but R.Ashwin bowls superbly both in T20's and ODI's, hardly changes his style. But he's early in his career.
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Fair point, but let's give it a couple of years and let's see how his performances are in Tests, ODIs and T20s. He may be figured out like Ajantha Mendis was.
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August 26, 2011, 06:16 AM
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we should blood a young team for T20, instead of our regular guys. that might prevent some of the basic skills being spoiled by T20.
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It is good to let Shakib off captaincy, it will relieve some pressure. He will be offered captaincy again in a few years when he will be more than ready, Bangladesh will voyage into a new horizon then
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August 26, 2011, 09:19 AM
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the thing is....the whole team + nation is relying on Shakib and Shakib only.....I don't see the point in pointing him out alone? If a team loses....the blame should be given to the whole team rather than the guy who has been playing cricket throughout the year relentlessly....
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August 26, 2011, 09:28 AM
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Actually too much money in T20 is spoiling lot of cricketer. Just look at India.
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August 26, 2011, 11:44 AM
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^Ravi disagrees with u...he thinks u r jelous
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August 26, 2011, 05:45 PM
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^ I want to see a Ravi Vs. Shamim/Atahar fight. Now that would be something to watch
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August 26, 2011, 06:00 PM
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^ agreed
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August 26, 2011, 07:46 PM
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Ravi ekta Gabhi...
tar kothar ki daam ache?
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