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May 7, 2007, 09:52 AM
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The Bad....
"The good" - Already been posted in other threads that how we would dominate India in the up coming ODI series.
"The bad" - I would try to illustrate here (Not concentrating on Indian team).
Pray and hope "The ugly" we don't have to see the that.
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We have our share of problems too in the team.
1. Form of our Captain (Batting - This should be counted as two points and not a BD soul can deny it).
3. Form of our Vice Captain (We already had an Eid for this year).
4. Golla's Pace.
5. Mashud's possible inclusion.
6. Form of our former Vice Captain (Can't capitalize the start against less than minnow attack).
7. Field settings (Noticed didn't learn anything new to set attacking field).
8. Morale (Coach leaving).
9. Heat = Not allowing to concentrate.
10. Middle order wobble in the practice match.
11. Mash's lost pace (adding to hammering in the dying overs).
So we should keep our feet in the ground instead of flying sky high. Instead of dreaming series victory I would take it game by game one at a time. Lets just enjoy the series instead of hyping it too much and then coming hard on players as they need to be sacked then and there if they fail.
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May 7, 2007, 10:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
"So we should keep our feet in the ground instead of flying sky high. Instead of dreaming series victory I would take it game by game one at a time. Lets just enjoy the series instead of hyping it too much and then coming hard on players as they need to be sacked then and there if they fail.
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i hear you...
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May 7, 2007, 10:08 AM
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Finally, some realistic and sensible posting. I am very concerned with # 1, 4 and 10.
I dont think # 11 is an issue. Mash is blazing right now.
As for #5..its good to culture a young wkeeper..but performance wise MRahim hasnt been outstanding in any way (bat/keep) so even if Mashud comes which I hope he doesnt, it will not be disaster.
As for # 3 and 6: Inconsistency is a part of the BD package. It will hurt sure..but not as bad as #1
Very interesting part is #9. We must have icepack under the helmet.
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May 7, 2007, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pellu
Yes, we would have missing seeing him dropping catches every game and missing run out chances due to lack of technique. Mushfique is not a weeketkeeper material at all. If you look at average number of dismissals per inings for all weeketkeepers, his rate (0.33) was the lowest among them all. He probably should be considered as a batsman (even there he has shown very little so far). For weeketkeeper we should really look else where.
from http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc20...ype=tournament
ICC World Cup, 2006/07
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the awful truth about mushi... unfortunately, here's some more. pilot, the best keeper we have, is allegedly offensive (and abusive) to some of his younger peers in the team. they were glad to see him go. dhiman ghosh is not as good a batsman as mushi, whose temperament and skills with the bat have become essential to our better performances. his enthusiasm is more essential given the customary emotional instability in our young team, the instability that leads to the type of self-distruction we don't want to see anymore, or at least not as frequently. conclusion: let's hope he learns fast...
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May 7, 2007, 10:32 AM
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Very interesting part is #9. We must have icepack under the helmet.
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.. and around the neck as Australians did in Sharjah against Pakistan and won a losing game.
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May 7, 2007, 10:36 AM
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Well, everyone is not expecting a series win over India. I would rather say we are enjoying the build-up where we have slight upper hand. In the deep inside, most of us know, Bangladesh is still fragile and India might dominate us in the series (will be very difficult for them after recent developments, but they have got the ability).
Now if thinking negatively is considered as realistic, I am not going to buy that.
T_E bhai, some of your points are not valid for ODI series in which we are now concentrating and some are .........
#2 is absent, can't comment
#3 is hypothetical, we should not count. He is in good form and showed some consistency after a long period.
#4 - Golla is not playing in the first ODI. It depends on SN's performance whether he will get any chance at all in the ODI sereis. Point invalid at this point.
#5 - Mashud is not in the ODI squad.
#7 - Can't agree. Bashar has rotated his 5 bowlers exceptionally well in the world cup and field setting was good, may be defensive but that's the strategy he is follwoing for years. Nothing new.
#8 - Should be a positive influence. To say good bye in a best possible manner.
#9 - applies to both team.
#11 - worst point. Don't worry, he is enjoying finest time of his career.
I only see #1, #6 and #10 as logical worries. And these are nothing new.
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May 7, 2007, 10:44 AM
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If this is BAD, then what is ugly?
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May 7, 2007, 10:45 AM
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Miraz bhai,
Are we sure JO is not playing in the 1st ODI? The team has aleardy been announced?
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May 7, 2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Fazal
If this is BAD, then what is ugly?
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If only the result is unfavorable to us after the series, I will point out the numerous threads of Ugly-1, ugly-2, ....like that.
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May 7, 2007, 10:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigers_eye
Miraz bhai,
Are we sure JO is not playing in the 1st ODI? The team has aleardy been announced?
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I can tell you very safely.
Sure.
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May 7, 2007, 10:48 AM
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I am just worried about our NEW VC's form. May Allah bless us with another eid during the INDIA series.
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May 7, 2007, 10:50 AM
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Miraz bhai, SN is playing on the first odi? pls say yes, pls say yes.
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May 7, 2007, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miraz
I can tell you very safely.
Sure.
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thanks man. You rock bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May 7, 2007, 11:01 AM
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I think the valid concerns are the # 1 and 10. In fact, that can be extrapolated to any order of the batting lineup. If top order fails, the whole middle order will fail unless we see a top class performance by Aftab/Bashar which is higly unlikely. I think the other major concern is that we DID NOT SCORE EVEN 250 RUNS in recent times. If Indians are slogging as they are planning to do, they will score 300 plus runs and we didnt see that mental strength to overcome that. In other words, the bad of 1,3, 10 ( captain, vice captain, middle order) must be vanquished for a successful chase.
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May 7, 2007, 11:13 AM
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I will increase the level from "Bad" to "worse" and apologize I had to re-number and didn't keep consistency...
1. We played in bouncy wicket and now 'forgot' how to play in our own pitch(example: recent batting performance in practice matches...no big scores).
2. none of our top orders scoring decent enough, if two of top order contributes 60 something run we are happy(!) in other teams atleast one top order score that amount of run by himself.
3. Both SN and Tanim have no footwork or consistent good shot selection
4. Middle order slogs and happy to score 40 runs
5. Captain lost his energy (physically and mentaliy, he can now only talk in medias)
6. We have only one consistent all round(!) Masri
7. Too predictable SLAs' overs in the middle
8. Pacers can't bowl at death
9. Coach is leaving, he is saying he is professional, you tell me if anyone quits the job, what he/she does before 2 weeks notice? Are they serious or just gets ready to pack? Dav did a lot, but the timing of the series and his announcement was bad timing.
10. Unability to take singles
11. Didn't have any 'real' practice matches especially for longer version...all our batters did is to practice in nets..how they will learn to take singles if they play only in nets...and also they only play for 40 balls to score 45! Do you think they can stay in crease for 2 days to play test cricket!
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May 7, 2007, 11:18 AM
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A low impact post: I say bring in Mehrab jr. for tests,, scoring 60 runs from 216 balls is something that he should be proud of and be rewarded. And he has been doing this for a while now,, taking time to score runs instead of going for shots like Aftab/Bashar would
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May 7, 2007, 11:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BanglaCool
.. and around the neck as Australians did in Sharjah against Pakistan and won a losing game.
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Nice note. I mentioned 'under the helmet' because some of the BD heads are so small (like Sakib and Mushfiqur) that they have hard time keeping it on place. Icepack would play dual role
Miraz, pls dont misunderstand..we appreciate your highly boosted and positive attitude. Its just that there needs to be the opposite sentiment to make a dynamic forum. At the end, we all have the same wish (BD kicks IN %$#!!)
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May 7, 2007, 12:11 PM
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love all ya pessimists. You remind me of the goth kids so much. so keep it up and remember dont let anyone get to ya.
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